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[11:11] chibaguy polom
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[12:20] gezza polom
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[15:07] chibaguy polom again (from windows 10 :-) )
[15:09] jonnyb polom chibaguy - well done (and hello Mocrosoft! :) )
[15:09] jonnyb o/i
[15:09] chibaguy hi jonnyb
[15:10] chibaguy microsoft says hello and that it just stored that greeting in your file
[15:13] jonnyb :)
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[15:59] fabricius polom
[15:59] jonnyb polompompom
[16:01] fabricius haha Lukas (my older son) did install W10 a few days ago - did need ages.
[16:01] fabricius he likes it so far, but he checked which of the nice features "call home" since he painfully accepted to need a microsoft account to run W8
[16:02] jonnyb :)
[16:02] fabricius and what?
[16:02] fabricius he switched of only one bad home calling (tell MS where he is ... he does not want them to know his position) - only one of the many security "option" and no nice features anymore
[16:03] fabricius so no more talking computer
[16:03] fabricius no mor telling him how the weather is
[16:03] fabricius somewhere else
[16:03] fabricius mind: MS wants to know where he is (ex. in Berlin) to tell him where the weather somewhere else is (ex. Munich)
[16:04] jonnyb there's also the peer to peer update sharing thing i've heard is naughty, defaults to on and uses up your upload bandwidth apparently
[16:04] fabricius MS will tell Lukas only the weather in another city, when he activates geo-localisation
[16:05] fabricius yeah -- MS desides your upgrades - what and when
[16:06] fabricius I like the features from the ads ... yeah like that ... but for the price of being a transparent industry owned puppy, I just do not want a bit of it at all - not at all at all.
[16:09] fabricius High Security and Appropriate Dataprotection you will never gain together with Full Convenience.
[16:11] fabricius W10 seems to be Conveience Product, whilst the Gnu/Linux and BSD flavors are variations of Fresh Food. A bitmore time to prepare, need some basic knowledge, but healthy and tasty (usually).
[16:13] * jonnyb wonders what that makes Mac OS? ;)
[16:15] fabricius trying to be more convenient?
[16:17] fabricius data collectors all
[16:19] fabricius why MS needs to track where you are and where you go just to provide you fancy features for which your geoposition is irrelevant ? Guess ! We all know for the most part .
[16:20] fabricius Being tracked anyway . Yet trying to get away from that . Maybe soon using TOR !?
[16:20] fabricius Or I get a rootserver and use that from a VPN tunnel
[16:21] fabricius internet and such
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[16:25] jonnyb :D
[16:25] jonnyb hi msaad
[16:26] msaad Hi jonnyb! Saw your comment on the bug tracker! :)
[16:26] jonnyb which one?
[16:28] msaad "How about for the time being we restrict the wishlist fields to only appear for "Team Wishlist" members? "
[16:28] msaad 
[16:29] msaad I'm still going to go over all the suggestions, trace a plan, discuss what will be done first and then give it a go :)
[16:29] jonnyb oh right yes, i on;y just started using that "view only if in group" setting on tracker fields recently, seems to work fine
[16:31] msaad And it makes sense to have it that way. I'll make sure to include that on the changes.
[16:39] fabricius Wouldn't be one "field type textarea" very much enough for the wishlist ?
[16:56] chibaguy hi fabricius. Of course I'll try to deactivate as much privacy intrusions as I can, but so far I like Windows 10 quite a bit.
[16:56] chibaguy But then I liked Windows 8, too.
[16:57] * jonnyb is glad someone liked it
[16:57] chibaguy (Not really a big windows fan historically, but the OS works pretty well without getting in the way these days, IMO.
[16:57] chibaguy Edge browser seems pretty good too.
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[18:20] cidoc-dswg I have a Theme problem I think. Using Theme:arcturus Option:geo any language that reads r2l like Arabic displays as a different theme in the logo module at the top. It displays as the the 'default' theme fivealive instead. Is that something that I can fix or is it an issue for the Theme designer?
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[18:31] cidoc-dswg Before anyone asks I have cleared the cache. Also I thought it might be a browser problem (especially as first seen in MS Edge) but it does the same in Chrome and Firefox.
[18:36] jonnyb hi cidoc-dswg - the arcturus themes were form tiki 2ish, so probably don't support RTL languages at all, sounds like a tough job to convert it i would have thought
[18:37] gezza polom
[18:37] gezza cidoc-dswg which tiki version do you use?
[18:38] cidoc-dswg Dowloaded the recent update. was that 12.4?
[18:40] cidoc-dswg Shame if not arcturas geo, like that theme. How tough to fix, how are the themes defined?
[18:40] gezza ah, ok, so before the bootstrap&theme revamp (started with Tiki13)
[18:41] cidoc-dswg I know this is a daft question but is there a quick way i can remind myself what version i am running?
[18:41] gezza in that version they are in the /styles directory
[18:42] jonnyb i used to use geo on an old site, but when it was discontinued (before chibaguy re-added them as arcturus) i just switched to a different theme... (not much help i know, but it's quite a bit of work i tihnk)
[18:42] gezza to check your version go to tiki-admin.php?page=general
[18:45] cidoc-dswg Yep it is 12.4. I'm hearing that it wouldn't make any difference if I updated the version though. I need to choose a theme and check it in both language directions. Any shortcuts/guidance on theme selection, rather than grinding tjrough each one again?
[18:45] cidoc-dswg s/tjrough/through
[18:48] gezza not sure which ones are RTL ready
[18:48] gezza https://themes.tiki.org/tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId=2&deep=off&type=
[18:49] gezza the listed ones were mostly maintained
[18:49] gezza in the Theme Demo section
[18:50] gezza except for Bootswatch themes, they are for Tiki13+
[18:52] cidoc-dswg What is the latest stable version, maybe I should get that. I did think i had installed 14 (or am I imagining that?)
[18:55] jonnyb yes, latest version is Tiki 14.0, but 12.4 is still supported to an extend as it's the Long Term Support version until 15.1
[18:55] jonnyb (or even longer actually)
[18:59] cidoc-dswg OK thanks that's all useful. I will have a look at the Theme Demo and list and select a new one. Cheers. I will also update to 14 probably, since I am not out of initial set up yet.
[19:00] jonnyb 14 is much nicer than 12, so i recommend that, but i'm not sure what the state of RTL is in it as yet (whatever it's like it's probably better than the arcturus themes)
[19:05] cidoc-dswg Which prompts me to ask something else. How does tiki know which direction a language should be displayed in? Is that a setting I need to be conscious of when adding new languages?
[19:16] jonnyb there's a fairly crude check somewhere that i tihnk currently just checks if it's Hebrew or Arabic, probably easily extended
[19:18] cidoc-dswg I need to add Farsi (Persian) and Urdu to that list. Something I do or request?
[19:25] jonnyb sorry cidoc-dswg - got to go now, have a look at... hmm, sorry, should be a page on https://dev.tiki.org/Developer+Documentation about it but can't find it now
[19:25] jonnyb more tomorrow probably...
[19:26] jonnyb here it is https://dev.tiki.org/Creating+or+maintaining+translations?structure=Developer+Documentation
[19:26] cidoc-dswg Many Thanks.
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