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   fabricius: polom
   <br> pedro_morgan hello
   <br> u looked for somebody yesterday - u r still here?
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   Emenems: Jyhem_laptop, svn version ? even for production ?
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   fabricius: four times the same notifications ( for three variations of the sites domains) ... ist tsr
   <br> it is really annoying
   <br> can't we do anything about t,hat?
   chibaguy: Hi fabricius
   <br> I think if the multiple display of the forum posts can't be fixed, it should be turned off here.
   fabricius: Hi chibaguy
   chibaguy: But I don't know why is in charge or who knows what to do.
   <br> why -&gt; who
   fabricius: caarrie is
   <br> but caarrie sais, it is the fault of Tiki, not the scripts fault
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   chibaguy: That's right, so I don't know who on the Tiki side will handle this.
   fabricius: I did have a look, but I did not find a hook
   <br> maybe a bug or a missing part related to rss feeds
   chibaguy: I had a look at tiki.org's feeds admin but didn't see anything to change there.
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   Emenems: Hello :-) I was thinking : is there such thing as intermediate version ? like 10.1 ?
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   msaad: <u>Emenems</u>: not sure, but I don't think so :)
   Emenems: msaad, ok :-) so, as Jyhem_laptop was saying, it's better to use a daily snapshot, or the svn version, even in production ?
   <br> or at least have a "pre-production" with svn
   msaad: <u>Emenems</u>: yes. But introduce changes with baby steps.
   <br> exactly
   <br> have a pre-production where you can merge incoming patches
   <br> see if it's all good.
   <br> merge to production
   <br> It's safer.
   Emenems: so.. i was also thinking : would it be possible to have multiple wikis (ie databases, files) with only one instance of the main code...
   <br> ?
   <br> (im not sure if i'm clear)
   msaad: You want your production site to be connected to multiple DB's?
   Emenems: No, several production sites, each one has its own DB, and its own configuration file(s), but the majority of the tiki code is the same for each site... hum
   msaad: I'm sure there is a way to inter-connect them
   <br> chibaguy, amette, luciash ^ (you guys are way more experienced than I am)
   Emenems: Like hum... the Multisite possibilities in wordpress
   msaad: <u>Emenems</u>: hopefully one of them will be able to help you out. I started contributing not a long ago hehehe :]
   Emenems: okok :)
   <br> you are already a big help
   chibaguy: Emenems, there's the "MultiTiki" feature. https://doc.tiki.org/MultiTiki
   <br> hi msaad.
   msaad: hi chibaguy :), thanks for your reply on the email.
   chibaguy: Oh, sure.
   msaad: <u>Emenems</u>: Chibaguy for the win! +1
   Emenems: o/
   chibaguy: Emenems, with MultiTiki, you use one database and one set of files, but use perspectives to have the appearance of more than one domain.
   Emenems: chibaguy, yes, looks like what i would use... i'll take alook :)
   chibaguy: So you can have different themes, content, modules, etc. at one installation and one IP address.
   Emenems: cool
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   chibaguy: Oh, actually looking at the doc page, I was thinking of a different feature than MultiTiki. With MultiTiki, you do have more than one database.
   <br> I was thinking of "multi-domain" feature - https://doc.tiki.org/Multi-domain
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   chibaguy: In the case of multi-domain, there's just one database.
   msaad: The scary world of android fragmentation -&gt; http://opensignal.com/reports/2014/android-fragmentation/
   Emenems: chibaguy, no, multitiki is ok for me. One set of files, but different configuration and DBs for different wiki.
   chibaguy: Ok :-).
   Emenems: chibaguy, i will have different (separate) groups of students, and we offer a collaboration tool.
   chibaguy: I see.
   <br> wow, msaad, that's a lot of android variations.
   msaad: <u>chibaguy</u>: tell me about it. Look at the OS comparison. I love how apple just slams their stick on the table and say "You must update or you shall not have phone" whilst android goes like "Heyyy cutie, we have a new version , would you like to update?"
   chibaguy: yep, apple's world is tightly controlled.
   <br> I was surprised that the next iOS version is supposed to be compatible with my iPhone 4s. I still haven't upgraded from iOS 6.
   <br> I'm not an apple fan especially, but when we got these phones, there was a lot of talk about malware on andriod at the time.
   <br> And it was a kind of family phone package upgrade.
   <br> Didn't want to be hassling with four phones' malware problems. ;-)
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   msaad: <u>chibaguy</u>: Yeah. I had the first iphone, then moved away from its strict environment.
   <br> I'm using an LG G3 now.. quite a phone (4k display yatta yatta yatta)
   <br> But yeah, android is finicky.
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   <br> polom
   chibaguy: hi gezza
   gezza: hi chibaguy
   <br> i was thinking about how join in with the documentation/decisions about the bootstrap standards for Tiki
   <br> do you have some workflow in mind about this?
   <br> i mean there is that dev page and the themes page
   <br> is there a vote needed about anything or just write down what seems best?
   <br> or we pick a best practice form?
   <br> put a screenshot and explain why these and those solutions are used
   chibaguy: There are some points that probably need a consensus on, so maybe a vote, such as label position. I'm not looking forward to that, really, because I know people have different preferences so I'm not sure how everyone will be happy/satisfied with the result.
   <br> Working towards a best practices for forms, probably we could start a tentative list of points (practices). And if anyone disagrees with or wants to modify a point, there can be a discussion.
   gezza: I think we should pick a form where we can demonstrate
   <br> <u>eg</u>: tiki-edit_article.tpl
   chibaguy: Yes, there needs to be probably more than one form, because we have several types in terms of layout, etc.
   <br> So several examples.
   gezza: right
   chibaguy: I like how it is done on bootstrap's example page - you can see the implemented form and the code.
   gezza: so maybe first group them
   chibaguy: Yes, whatever makes sense.
   gezza: dev or themes subsite?
   chibaguy: There's a https://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices, so I just made a https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices .
   <br> The templates page is way out of date.
   <br> But since this is info for devs, probably the devs site is best.
   gezza: ok, I will add info there
   <br> thanks!
   chibaguy: We want to keep the page clear and free from discussion, I think, or maybe discussion is ok while the best practices are being decided, but the end result should be just a doc page, similar to Bootstrap's.
   <br> IMO
   <br> Maybe a second page linked to this one, like Forms Best Practices Discussion, to keep this page clean. ?
   <br> Anyway, time to take the dog out here. I'll be back in a while.
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   <br> polom
   gezza: hi jonnyb
   jonnyb: hi gezza
   gezza: decided about the file upload?
   jonnyb: not completely, was hoping for some more input - my feeling is to go for the jquery one
   <br> but composer.tiki.org is still being uncooperative ;)
   gezza: both look good on the demo
   jonnyb: yes, but i think the jq one does a bit more, and the bootstrap one would be hard to backport into 12 if it's deemed a good idea
   gezza: but the devil hides in the details - mirror translation from hungarian :)
   <br> sure you want to backport?
   jonnyb: not me particularly
   <br> luciash was also looking into it some more i think?
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   <br> I added a rough outline of possible content.
   jonnyb: polom chibaguy
   <br> on https://dev.tiki.org/Forms+Best+Practices do you mean?
   chibaguy: hi jonnyb
   <br> yep
   jonnyb: thanks :)
   -: jonnyb wonders how we could make this all "optional"
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   <br> jonnyb, do you mean the form practices?
   jonnyb: yes, only kidding really - think it would be impractical
   <br> but was sort of thinking about how the tracker fields have a same row option (sometimes)
   chibaguy_: Well, the forms could be all over the park, but I'm not sure how good the user experience would be. ;-)
   jonnyb: i was thinking of a pref for stacked or grid forms and some sort of css fix that changes it globally - probably a nightmare
   chibaguy_: I imagine trackers are a special case, since they're being created for various purposes that maybe can't be anticipated.
   jonnyb: indeed
   chibaguy_: The Tiki admin pages are a more stable set.
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   gezza: <u>jonnyb</u>: for trackers custom wishes would be solved having a form builder
   jonnyb: :D
   gezza: that we will do after the UUID thing :)
   <br> so I would not worry about tracker layout
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   pedro_morgan: hey any hardocre tikwiki devs here....
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