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   <br> Does LDAP external groups not work if you enable Web Server authentication?
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   jonnyb: polom pom pom all
   <br> I need to send some example tiki sites to a friend who needs a new website and i can't seem to find a link to that on https://tiki.org - any clues? ;)
   chibaguy: Hi jonnyb
   <br> There was a page at info.t.o, wasn't there?
   <br> https://info.tiki.org/Featured+Tikis
   <br> not especially up to date, though.
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   jonnyb: hi chibaguy - yes, that's the one
   <br> i remember now i updated it at https://tiki.org/Featured+Tikis at luciash_'s place
   <br> as you say all rather out of date :(
   chibaguy: ah, ok.
   <br> yeah, kind of a retro gallery
   jonnyb: something for the "marketing department" :D
   chibaguy: we should ask people on the dev and use lists to contribute a URL
   <br> or screenshot
   jonnyb: and the userlist i guess
   <br> the form is here now https://tiki.org/Nominate+a+Site
   chibaguy: oh, right.
   <br> the list should be updated since some sites are dead and some are using other software, etc.
   jonnyb: off for walkies here (before the storm hits hopefully ;) ) bbl
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   <br> polom
   jonnyb: polom dingeling
   amette: heya jonnyb :)
   dingeling: oops, mischan ;)
   jonnyb: hey amette - found that folder full of pics and videos from Luci's tikifest on my desktop the other day, must finish that edit! :)
   dingeling: Oh, yeah, that would be very cool! :)
   -: dingeling is amette (just in case you're still guessing ;) )
   amette: yes, dingeling is me *g*
   jonnyb: aha, in disguise ay?
   dingeling: Still looking for an xmpp transport that would allow me to connect to my irssiproxy and use the amette account, but it looks like I'm the only one to see the advantage of that... or I'm crazy and don't realise it, not sure. ;)
   jonnyb: if you (or amette) don't know then i don't know who would ;)
   dingeling: Probably I will have to learn some python, the irc and xmpp protocols and code that myself one day... but I don't really see when I would find the time to actually really do that.
   <br> yeah, what do you think, amette ?
   jonnyb: know the feeling!
   amette: how should I know, if I'm crazy, dingeling ?!?
   jonnyb: 8)
   dingeling: yep, jonnyb, I think that's quite a classic... that's also why themes.t.o is broken... but gonna fix that today! :)
   <br> chibaguy : we'll move themes and oldthemes to a new server today... so tomorrow when you wake up, you can pick up the pieces that will be left over. ;)
   <br> I think that's the final goal: to have oldthemes.t.o and themes.t.o, right?
   <br> The community site is still as convoluted as ever, eh? I do quite like the new front page though! Not sure about the top bar scrolling thingies still... too much imho... looks more like "Look ma, scrolly, scrolly!" than "Let's make some kick-ass useful stuff.", but I think that's whining on a high level.
   chibaguy: hi, uh, dingeling.
   dingeling: hi chibaguy :)
   jonnyb: i know what you mean about the new home page dingeling, but it's just got to be better than info.t.o as it was, surely?
   chibaguy: One main thing we wanted to do is change the name "oldthemes".
   <br> I'm rechecking on the new name.
   <br> Rename "oldthemes.tiki.org" to "tiki12themes.tiki.org"
   jonnyb: and i have to admit i keep finding things that should be available from there - like search and example sites... everyone wants different stuff i guess ;)
   chibaguy: Can you do that, please? :-)
   dingeling: jonnyb : yes, it beats the pants off the old home page - very happy to have this modern day version welcoming our visitors now! :)
   jonnyb: yup yup
   dingeling: chibaguy : sure, so move oldthemes.tiki.org away from ovh-server and name it tiki12themes.t.o - is there actually anything we need to do for themes.t.o?
   chibaguy: No, nothing for themes.t.o, I think.
   dingeling: ok, cool, that makes it easier to overlook today's work :)
   <br> jonnyb : the top bar is ok with it's stuff, etc. I'd just make the topmost logo-bar go away when scrolling and then keep the menu fixed at top instead of scrolly, scrolly both back and forth...
   <br> ... but then I was just searching for Infrastructure Team pages, found the first one, which is a bunch of todos that don't make much sense to me and no information on servers. If I wouldn't have known about a server page, I wouldn't have searched for it. But that might actually really be the Infrastructure Teams problem of not properly taking care of their part of the wiki.
   jonnyb: isn't that more or less what it does? it doesn't bother me too much, i think it was a luciash_ thing anyway :)
   dingeling: Yeah, I mean, why do we first show the logo bar only and then scroll it away after we hid the menu bar?
   <br> But what I really find annoying and might want to blame the site design for are the left and right side modules. They are either too narrow or the text too big or something... but they look ugly, aren't readable and don't feel too useful to me.
   jonnyb: guess it just came out like that? i've had fights with getting client ones to do exactly what they wanted, can be quite a fiddle
   dingeling: or they have too big a margin to the left of the ul/ol
   <br> hmm, yeah, I can believe that.. and I have only had minor fiddles with those so far.
   <br> Jyhem, Jyhem_laptop : could you ping me when you're there? Just wondering about ovh updates and interested in Jenkins which is suspended according to https://tiki.org/Community%20Servers
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   dingeling: mmmnnnhhhh.... I just found my nick on urbandictionary (with a typo, idiots), still I think I might rather be dingdong, that looks tasty on wikipedia *g*
   -: jonnyb daren't look up dingeling on urbandictionary...
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   <br> That feels better. And it's so fitting. According to http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Bing_Bong I'm the imaginary friend of someone, so that's good. ;)
   jonnyb: :D
   <br> looks just like you!
   bingbong: Yeah, doesn't it?! :D
   Jyhem: polom
   -: Jyhem is preparing something to eat. Will come back and see bingbong's questions
   bingbong: moloq Jyhem - cool, no rush, I have enough to do and might have to eat something in between, too
   Jyhem: yeah, Ť currently off-line due to high load ť might be reconsidered since there should be hardly any load left
   bingbong: yep, thought so - and/or we could move it to another server - the question remains: what did it actually do? I mean: we don't compile anything, right?
   Jyhem: hmm, not sure. I think it was helping point out all syntax errors and such
   bingbong: Aaah, ok, I remember something like this... quite cool actually!
   <br> I'll actually prepare something to eat now, too. Thinking works better with something to burn for my brain.
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   bingbong: moloqer
   Jyhem: <u>bingbong</u>: I know how jenkins is disabled and I feel the time would be right for an ovh upgrade/reboot
   bingbong: Jyhem : ok, cool, can you take care of it? I'll create a new server for tiki12themes.tiki.org meanwhile.
   Emenems: hé! hello : question . the "clear cache" does not affect tiki-browse_categories.php . Because i changed the name of a file, and the old name appears in this tiki-browse_categories.php
   <br> What can i try ?
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   Jyhem: clear unified search index ?
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   giesen: Does LDAP external groups not work if you enable Web Server authentication? The reason I'm looking for it is I have Kerberos authentication for SSO in Apache, but obviously it won't handle group assignment so I need to have Tiki query LDAP for groups as well.
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   <br> Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item5761
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   Jyhem: <u>giesen</u>: last time I looked, the LDAP external groups synchronization looked unfinished
   giesen: I see...
   Jyhem: It is probably still not really working. I don't think anyone is working n this right now.