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[12:34] jonnyb polom
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[12:44] amette_ polom
[12:44] amette_ hi jonnyb :)
[12:45] jonnyb hi amette_
[12:45] jonnyb nice underscore today ;)
[12:45] amette_ hehe, yeah, I figured I'd try something different today ;)
[12:46] amette_ Technically using IRC via my XMPP client works really nicely, so take it as a sign of the concept being out of alpha. *g*
[12:48] jonnyb :)
[12:48] amette_ So, should we go disabling some stuff? :)
[12:57] jonnyb could do, but i have to go out shortly for a while
[12:58] amette_ ok, I can start doing it... have to fiddle with the wkhtmltopdf still, too
[12:58] jonnyb i guess just disabling those prefs would be easy amette_, and if you're monitoring the server we should be able to see if it speeds things up much?
[12:59] amette_ Hmm, yep, let me see if I have proper metrics for HTML page speed.
[12:59] jonnyb seems it's not being that busy yet today - https://doc.tiki.org/PluginCustomSearch just loaded in only 7 seconds (woo!)
[13:00] amette_ So what do we bother, let's just use the site on Friday mornings?! :P
[13:00] jonnyb mind you, 2nd load was: [ Execution time: 15.26 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.82MB ]   [ Queries: 314 in 14.6 secs ]
[13:01] jonnyb maybe that's because there are two users on it now? ;)
[13:01] amette_ hrhr, yup.. and rough guesstimate 97% of time is used for queries
[13:02] amette_ we might be surprised at the speed of tiki once we get those eliminated
[13:02] jonnyb ok, feature_stats disabled and feature_referer_stats disabled
[13:02] jonnyb same page: [ Execution time: 8.27 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.85MB ]   [ Queries: 2033 in 7.49 secs ]
[13:03] amette_ woohoo - does it stay like that on the second page load?
[13:03] jonnyb but 2nd load: [ Execution time: 1.87 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.78MB ]   [ Queries: 313 in 1.40 secs ]
[13:03] jonnyb better
[13:03] amette_ That's what I'm talking about! :)
[13:03] amette_ 2 seconds for the page
[13:03] jonnyb that's almost usable ;)
[13:04] amette_ yeah, isn't it?! Google might start to like us. :P
[13:04] jonnyb looks like not all of the modules are being cached either
[13:05] amette_ hmm, that sounds like another good thing to try - what exactly do you mean? Admin->Modules something?
[13:05] jonnyb https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-admin_modules.php
[13:05] amette_ monitoring tells me 2.54s Average on doc.t.o and 7.35s Max over the last five weeks
[13:05] jonnyb but i've never been 100% sure if things like the search module still work if cached
[13:06] amette_ ah, right, I see what you mean
[13:06] jonnyb that's just cpu isn't it - doesn't really say how streesed out the database has been i think
[13:06] amette_ that's the actual HTTP transfer - those numbers seem too good to me, too, but that's what the monitoring measured
[13:07] amette_ interestingly the 7 seconds were in week 43 (5 weeks ago), after that a constant 2 secs
[13:07] jonnyb well everything on doc now seems about 10 times faster
[13:07] amette_ :)
[13:08] amette_ Ah, the power of proper systems thinking. ;)
[13:09] jonnyb i've added cache times to most of the "statis" looking modules, so let's see whay happens :)
[13:09] amette_ still some slow loads in between, but much better indeed
[13:09] amette_ cool!
[13:09] jonnyb static
[13:10] amette_ still slow queries though...
[13:10] jonnyb I guess we'll see better when the other side of the world wakes up properly
[13:10] amette_ tiki_files hits
[13:10] jonnyb tracker ones?
[13:10] amette_ and tiki_stats
[13:10] jonnyb ah riight
[13:11] amette_ UPDATE `tiki_files` SET `hits` = `hits` + '1', `lastDownload` = '1448021411' WHERE 1=1 AND `fileId` = '1097' LIMIT 1;
[13:11] amette_ insert into `tiki_stats` (`object`,`type`,`day`,`hits`) values('Accessibility','wiki','1447974000',1);
[13:11] jonnyb yes, as i said, hits seem to ignore the pref setting fo some (stupid) reason
[13:11] amette_ right, that's the one we need to comment in again
[13:11] jonnyb i wonder if the tiki_files hits are configurable
[13:13] jonnyb i think we need to add some new prefs to disable these stats writes, otherwise there will be whinging... might see if i can do that later
[13:13] jonnyb meanwhile, need to pop out... bbl
[13:13] amette_ Awesome, much appreciated!
[13:14] amette_ Thanks so far, have fun, laters mate! :)
[13:14] jonnyb u2 :)
[13:17] jonnyb we should add some notes to https://tiki.org/blog2-Tiki-Website-Gardeners-Blog later amette_ (jusst adding this as a reminder to myself as much as anything ;) )
[13:17] jonnyb laterz
[13:17] amette_ k, cool :)
[13:30] amette_ disabled stats and referrer stats on dev, too
[13:36] amette_ and it helps tremendously on normal wiki pages
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[14:35] jonnyb back, but busy in the north pole...
[14:36] * amette_ doesn't dare to ask what that might be a euphemism for
[14:37] jonnyb :D
[14:37] jonnyb will tell you when i've fixed it...
[14:37] amette_ ok, cool ;)
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[16:20] Cannibal polom!
[16:22] Cannibal weird problem : after an upgrade to 12.4 (migration to a new server), all the blog posts display the html code on the page instead of formatted text.
[16:22] Cannibal and it's only a problem in blog posts
[16:22] jonnyb polom Cannibal - sounds nasty
[16:23] Cannibal yeah :) simply editing the blogpost and clicking save fixes the issue... but there are several hundreds of posts :D
[16:23] jonnyb and it sounds familiar from 12.x days - i think it's something to do with wysiwyg and the settings
[16:24] jonnyb when you edit a post does the source view show html or wiki syntax?
[16:25] Cannibal hmmm... editing the post gives the formatted text... in a wysiwyg style. no wiki syntax or html
[16:26] Cannibal the old system showed html syntax apparently...
[16:26] jonnyb and no "source" button on the toolbar?
[16:26] Cannibal oh.. sorry. source displays html code
[16:30] jonnyb might be worth having a look in the database at the tiki_blog_posts table, the ones you fixed by saying probably have the wysiwyg column set to "y"
[16:31] jonnyb so you might be able to fix them all with a db query
[16:34] Cannibal omg!!!! thank you!!! i'll better have a look at the other tables as well.
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[16:35] Cannibal upgrading directly from 3.3 to 12.4 was a bit risky :D
[16:35] jonnyb it might affect articles too - wiki pages should be ok
[16:35] jonnyb coo, yes, that's a bit of a jump :)
[16:51] jonnyb amette_ and amette - i added a few notes here about what we (i) did to doc.tiki.org here https://tiki.org/blogpost625-Stats-switched-off-on-doc-tiki-org did i miss anything important?)
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[17:11] Cannibal I found one error in the ./lang/nl/language.php file : "Click here to confirm your action" => "Klik hier om uw actie te bestigen"
[17:11] Cannibal should be : "Click here to confirm your action" => "Klik hier om uw actie te bevestigen"
[17:21] Cannibal it's been several years since my last bug report/fix. Where's the best place to create a bug and a fix for this issue?
[17:22] Cannibal https://dev.tiki.org/tracker5 ?
[17:34] Cannibal nevermind, i've re-registered (old email account is gone) for the tiki.org site and I'll add the bug and fix later
[17:34] jonnyb just for a translation Cannibal? Not really a bug, better to just fix it
[17:36] Cannibal ah ok! thanks. This translation error has been in tikiwiki for ages. At one point it had been fixed but the wrong translation reappeared in a newer version.
[17:36] Cannibal I'll apply for svn access once my account has been enabled.
[17:36] jonnyb super! :)
[17:37] Cannibal now only one more thing to solve before we can go live with the new 12.4 :)
[17:39] Cannibal old install was not set at utf-8. and when we import the data on the new install (which now is utf-8) we get a lot of weird characters for ë, é and other ¨ stuff in the database. Been working on this for a few days now but there doesn't seem to be an easy fix :D
[17:43] amette_ Cannibal : read this first https://doc.tiki.org/Understanding+Encoding - then try the automatic fixing that the installer gives you - and don't trust it blindly, it may look good, but things may be actually worse inside the database
[17:46] * jonnyb shudders remembering the character encoding horrors of tiki 4 and 5
[17:48] Cannibal Thanks amette! I have been going through that doc already. I'll give it another look.
[18:09] * amette_ remembers the three days of banging head against wall until he figured the Tiki bug out that caused that, too
[18:09] amette_ jonnyb : nothing to add to your blog post - good job!
[18:10] amette_ Good luck, Cannibal! Fingers crossed! :)
[18:10] * amette_ is off now - cya guys :)
[18:13] jonnyb cheers amette_ see you later/sooner
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