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   <br> polom
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   <br> polom
   <br> hi jonnyb :)
   jonnyb: hi amette_
   <br> nice underscore today ;)
   amette_: hehe, yeah, I figured I'd try something different today ;)
   <br> Technically using IRC via my XMPP client works really nicely, so take it as a sign of the concept being out of alpha. *g*
   jonnyb: :)
   amette_: So, should we go disabling some stuff? :)
   jonnyb: could do, but i have to go out shortly for a while
   amette_: ok, I can start doing it... have to fiddle with the wkhtmltopdf still, too
   jonnyb: i guess just disabling those prefs would be easy amette_, and if you're monitoring the server we should be able to see if it speeds things up much?
   amette_: Hmm, yep, let me see if I have proper metrics for HTML page speed.
   jonnyb: seems it's not being that busy yet today - https://doc.tiki.org/PluginCustomSearch just loaded in only 7 seconds (woo!)
   amette_: So what do we bother, let's just use the site on Friday mornings?! :P
   jonnyb: mind you, 2nd load was: [ Execution time: 15.26 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.82MB ]   [ Queries: 314 in 14.6 secs ]
   <br> maybe that's because there are two users on it now? ;)
   amette_: hrhr, yup.. and rough guesstimate 97% of time is used for queries
   <br> we might be surprised at the speed of tiki once we get those eliminated
   jonnyb: ok, feature_stats disabled and feature_referer_stats disabled
   <br> same page: [ Execution time: 8.27 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.85MB ]   [ Queries: 2033 in 7.49 secs ]
   amette_: woohoo - does it stay like that on the second page load?
   jonnyb: but 2nd load: [ Execution time: 1.87 secs ]   [ Memory usage: 12.78MB ]   [ Queries: 313 in 1.40 secs ]
   <br> better
   amette_: That's what I'm talking about! :)
   <br> 2 seconds for the page
   jonnyb: that's almost usable ;)
   amette_: yeah, isn't it?! Google might start to like us. :P
   jonnyb: looks like not all of the modules are being cached either
   amette_: hmm, that sounds like another good thing to try - what exactly do you mean? Admin-&gt;Modules something?
   jonnyb: https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-admin_modules.php
   amette_: monitoring tells me 2.54s Average on doc.t.o and 7.35s Max over the last five weeks
   jonnyb: but i've never been 100% sure if things like the search module still work if cached
   amette_: ah, right, I see what you mean
   jonnyb: that's just cpu isn't it - doesn't really say how streesed out the database has been i think
   amette_: that's the actual HTTP transfer - those numbers seem too good to me, too, but that's what the monitoring measured
   <br> interestingly the 7 seconds were in week 43 (5 weeks ago), after that a constant 2 secs
   jonnyb: well everything on doc now seems about 10 times faster
   amette_: :)
   <br> Ah, the power of proper systems thinking. ;)
   jonnyb: i've added cache times to most of the "statis" looking modules, so let's see whay happens :)
   amette_: still some slow loads in between, but much better indeed
   <br> cool!
   jonnyb: static
   amette_: still slow queries though...
   jonnyb: I guess we'll see better when the other side of the world wakes up properly
   amette_: tiki_files hits
   jonnyb: tracker ones?
   amette_: and tiki_stats
   jonnyb: ah riight
   amette_: UPDATE `tiki_files` SET `hits` = `hits` + '1', `lastDownload` = '1448021411' WHERE 1=1 AND `fileId` = '1097' LIMIT 1;
   <br> insert into `tiki_stats` (`object`,`type`,`day`,`hits`) values('Accessibility','wiki','1447974000',1);
   jonnyb: yes, as i said, hits seem to ignore the pref setting fo some (stupid) reason
   amette_: right, that's the one we need to comment in again
   jonnyb: i wonder if the tiki_files hits are configurable
   <br> i think we need to add some new prefs to disable these stats writes, otherwise there will be whinging... might see if i can do that later
   <br> meanwhile, need to pop out... bbl
   amette_: Awesome, much appreciated!
   <br> Thanks so far, have fun, laters mate! :)
   jonnyb: u2 :)
   <br> we should add some notes to https://tiki.org/blog2-Tiki-Website-Gardeners-Blog later amette_ (jusst adding this as a reminder to myself as much as anything ;) )
   <br> laterz
   amette_: k, cool :)
   <br> disabled stats and referrer stats on dev, too
   <br> and it helps tremendously on normal wiki pages
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   <br> back, but busy in the north pole...
   -: amette_ doesn't dare to ask what that might be a euphemism for
   jonnyb: :D
   <br> will tell you when i've fixed it...
   amette_: ok, cool ;)
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   <br> polom!
   <br> weird problem : after an upgrade to 12.4 (migration to a new server), all the blog posts display the html code on the page instead of formatted text.
   <br> and it's only a problem in blog posts
   jonnyb: polom Cannibal - sounds nasty
   Cannibal: yeah :) simply editing the blogpost and clicking save fixes the issue... but there are several hundreds of posts :D
   jonnyb: and it sounds familiar from 12.x days - i think it's something to do with wysiwyg and the settings
   <br> when you edit a post does the source view show html or wiki syntax?
   Cannibal: hmmm... editing the post gives the formatted text... in a wysiwyg style. no wiki syntax or html
   <br> the old system showed html syntax apparently...
   jonnyb: and no "source" button on the toolbar?
   Cannibal: oh.. sorry. source displays html code
   jonnyb: might be worth having a look in the database at the tiki_blog_posts table, the ones you fixed by saying probably have the wysiwyg column set to "y"
   <br> so you might be able to fix them all with a db query
   Cannibal: omg!!!! thank you!!! i'll better have a look at the other tables as well.
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   Cannibal: upgrading directly from 3.3 to 12.4 was a bit risky :D
   jonnyb: it might affect articles too - wiki pages should be ok
   <br> coo, yes, that's a bit of a jump :)
   <br> amette_ and amette - i added a few notes here about what we (i) did to doc.tiki.org here https://tiki.org/blogpost625-Stats-switched-off-on-doc-tiki-org did i miss anything important?)
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   Cannibal: I found one error in the ./lang/nl/language.php file : "Click here to confirm your action" =&gt; "Klik hier om uw actie te bestigen"
   <br> should be : "Click here to confirm your action" =&gt; "Klik hier om uw actie te bevestigen"
   <br> it's been several years since my last bug report/fix. Where's the best place to create a bug and a fix for this issue?
   <br> https://dev.tiki.org/tracker5 ?
   <br> nevermind, i've re-registered (old email account is gone) for the tiki.org site and I'll add the bug and fix later
   jonnyb: just for a translation Cannibal? Not really a bug, better to just fix it
   Cannibal: ah ok! thanks. This translation error has been in tikiwiki for ages. At one point it had been fixed but the wrong translation reappeared in a newer version.
   <br> I'll apply for svn access once my account has been enabled.
   jonnyb: super! :)
   Cannibal: now only one more thing to solve before we can go live with the new 12.4 :)
   <br> old install was not set at utf-8. and when we import the data on the new install (which now is utf-8) we get a lot of weird characters for ë, é and other ¨ stuff in the database. Been working on this for a few days now but there doesn't seem to be an easy fix :D
   amette_: Cannibal : read this first https://doc.tiki.org/Understanding+Encoding - then try the automatic fixing that the installer gives you - and don't trust it blindly, it may look good, but things may be actually worse inside the database
   -: jonnyb shudders remembering the character encoding horrors of tiki 4 and 5
   Cannibal: Thanks amette! I have been going through that doc already. I'll give it another look.
   -: amette_ remembers the three days of banging head against wall until he figured the Tiki bug out that caused that, too
   amette_: jonnyb : nothing to add to your blog post - good job!
   <br> Good luck, Cannibal! Fingers crossed! :)
   -: amette_ is off now - cya guys :)
   jonnyb: cheers amette_ see you later/sooner
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