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| arildb | Hi jonnyb | [15:43] |
| jonnyb | hi arildb | [15:43] |
| arildb | I made a test with non-SEFURL and everything works fine
However, I agree with you that including initlib in route "doesn't feel right" I made the adjustment, because repeated calls to utf8_decode corrupts the string | [15:43] |
| jonnyb | hmm, that's odd - i wonder what the difference is?
yes, that's why i suggested the mb_detect_encoding route | [15:44] |
| arildb | mb_detect_encoding doesn't work properly | [15:45] |
| jonnyb | ah, ok :( | [15:45] |
| arildb | I could run the test, and it answered wrong, causing the same problem | [15:46] |
| jonnyb | but also if it could be moved into an IIS only section based on the SAPI if there is a difference?
hmm, dull | [15:46] |
| arildb | yes, that's possible. | [15:46] |
| jonnyb | i did see ony test that compared the length of the original string to the utf8 one, and if it was different then you need to encode | [15:47] |
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| arildb | On the other hand, utf8_decode could be used. After all route.php comes first, so repeated calls may not be an issue | [15:47] |
| jonnyb | actually i think the UN should make this sort of thing some sort of crime - all encoding should be standard! | [15:47] |
| arildb | UN? | [15:47] |
| jonnyb | or add it to the Geneva Convention of something
United Nations? | [15:48] |
| arildb | lol
yes, have a political decision...tht would solve it ;-) | [15:48] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb was kidding | [15:48] |
| arildb | I will try to rewrite it, to get rid of the initlib inclusion and only check for IIS | [15:49] |
| jonnyb | di d you try mb_detect_encoding in strict mode?
a comment on php.net says it's useless without that | [15:49] |
| arildb | utf8_encode should be ok, since route.php comes first | [15:50] |
| jonnyb | thanks, why are these things so hard!? | [15:50] |
| arildb | mb_detect_encoding ansswers wrong. I made a few tests | [15:50] |
| jonnyb | is there not a case where utf8 encoding something already urf8 causes corruption? there certainly is with most kinds of encoding | [15:51] |
| arildb | calling utf8_encode repeatedly will corrupt the string | [15:51] |
| jonnyb | even with strict set to true? seems odd, this post says it helps http://php.net/manual/en/function.mb-detect-encoding.php#102510
anyway, i'll leave you to it - i guess we both have other things to do :) | [15:51] |
| arildb | will do some more tests, with strict | [15:52] |
| jonnyb | :) | [15:52] |
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| arildb | mb-detect-encoding with strict works well. Just committed. Dependency to initlib.php removed from route.php
jonnyb: I hope the fix is OK now | [16:43] |
| jonnyb | woo hoo! Thanks arildb, will have a look later | [16:46] |
| arildb | :) | [16:46] |
| jonnyb | hey amette and amette_, i'm adding some session stuff to tiki-check.php and want to fix the "bad" rating for memory_limit == -1 (unlimited) and change it to just "ugly" and was going to add this text as an explanation - does it look ok?
"Your memory_limit is unlimited. This may casue problems on your server and should be used for testing and development only." and/or Jyhem if you're about :) (hi!) | [16:51] |
| amette_ | hi jonnyb :) | [16:52] |
| jonnyb | i'm guessing on a real site giving php all the memory would kill it? | [16:53] |
| amette_ | smart ass mode on - it is "cause" problems, not "casue" - smart ass mode off - looks good to me, maybe a bit more detail which kind of problems would be good?
it doesn't necessarily have to kill the server, but if a script is buggy it can eat up all the memory... | [16:53] |
| jonnyb | thanks for the typo spot - any examples and info welcome | [16:54] |
| amette_ | ... so memory_limit is a safeguard against buggy/runaway scripts so to say. | [16:54] |
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| amette_ | Or it could be a good script, but people trying to DoS you by giving it insane amounts of data to process maybe. | [16:55] |
| jonnyb | needs to be a one-liner really - i could give them your phone number :D | [16:55] |
| amette_ | LOL :P
I was just thinking... we don't have any real explanation on the max_execution_time either, right? | [16:55] |
| jonnyb | changed it to: This may cause problems on a production server... | [16:56] |
| amette_ | sounds good :) | [16:56] |
| jonnyb | my one says: "Your max_execution_time is unlimited. This is not necessarily bad, but it's a good idea to limit this time on productions servers in order to eliminate unexpectedly long running scripts."
(localhost) | [16:56] |
| amette_ | Well, someone wrote quite a good explanation there, eh!? ;) | [16:57] |
| jonnyb | yup (wasn't me ;) )
so how about | [16:58] |
| amette_ | however good that guy was, he does typos, too: "productionS servers" *g* | [16:59] |
| jonnyb | Your memory_limit is unlimited. This is not necessarily bad, but it's a good idea to limit this on productions servers in order to eliminate unexpectedly greedy scripts. | [16:59] |
| amette_ | Very good, I was just trying to suggest somthing similar, but couldn't come up with a proper adjective...
... I like "greedy"! :) | [16:59] |
| jonnyb | Not very technical but... | [16:59] |
| amette_ | Well, I'd say those explanations shouldn't be overly technical... they are for the layman to understand the issues. | [17:00] |
| jonnyb | was thinking of naughty too, but i think greedy is ok | [17:00] |
| amette_ | yep, greedy is more to the point | [17:00] |
| jonnyb | ok, moving on... | [17:00] |
| amette_ | :) | [17:00] |
| jonnyb | thanks :) | [17:00] |
| amette_ | yw, thanks for the improvement :) | [17:00] |
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| jonnyb | hi gezza | [17:50] |
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| gezza | jonnyb, when are you doing 14.1? | [18:21] |
| jonnyb | hi gezza - thursday afternoon by the look of it | [18:22] |
| gezza | oh, thanksgiving
can test only the package when it is ready | [18:23] |
| jonnyb | oh yes, so it is! :)
yes, basically that's the last step of the release script, making the tarballs | [18:23] |
| gezza | i will update my site when it is available, but dont think there will be much trouble | [18:24] |
| jonnyb | it usually works these day so testing can go on for a few days (for ever ;) ) | [18:24] |
| gezza | zf2 update seems promising
i mean did not notice anything yet on my local test | [18:25] |
| jonnyb | yes, looks ok so far
same | [18:25] |
| gezza | so it will be merged back after 14.1 is out? | [18:26] |
| jonnyb | that's the plan
and we'll stop doing the auto-merging, so officially all eyes on trunk for tiki 15 :) | [18:26] |
| gezza | great, I've been working on an optional way to integrate with transifex, will commit after that | [18:27] |
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