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:) [12:33] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [12:35] amette_ Yeah, it's great for sure! :) [12:35] amette_ Let's see, if I find another bug to squash with it's help today. ;) [12:35] amette_ its even [12:38] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [13:10] amette_ Is there actually a way to create a WikiPage when creating a tracker item? I know the embedded WikiPage, but I would like to have just a link to a WikiPage...?! [13:10] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [13:14] amette_ And btw, the "GeoCMS"-Stuff is much better than I thought. *g* :) [13:15] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [13:27] jonnyb sorry amette_ and amette__ (love the underscores ;) ) yes, there's a new wiki page field in tiki 15 that i think does what you need [13:27] amette_ hrhr, yeah, the underscores.... :P [13:28] amette_ The wiki page field does the embedding... I'm wondering, if I should add an option to it like "Only link, don't embed"....?! [13:29] amette_ ... but then I found the following in Admin->Trackers "Wiki pages are linked to tracker items, and their page names to tracker fields, via the tiki.wiki.linkeditem and tiki.wiki.linkedfield relations. You need to be familiar with the Relations tracker field or use the outputwiki option in the TRACKER plugin to make use of these features." - which sounds like it does what I mean (but doesn't the wiki page have to exist already for a relation)... and it [13:29] amette_ I'll have to dig into it... thanks for your input! :) [13:35] fabricius_tux joined #tikiwiki [13:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [13:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [13:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [13:45] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [13:45] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [13:45] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [13:54] Webdruid joined #tikiwiki [13:55] Webdruid Dear owncloud community. My calendar is fully present in the owncloud web interface. However, my Thunderbird only shows half of the events of that calendar and I don't know where to look to fix this [13:55] Webdruid I recently migrated from my xampp windows installation to my openmediavault (debian) linux system with nginx and have had trouble ever since [13:56] Webdruid The windows sync client also aborted its connection several times during the original sync [13:56] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item5815 [13:56] jonnyb hi Webdruid - you're in the tiki room, not owncloud, don't think we can help you about that here [13:56] jonnyb although i know some people here do use it [13:57] Webdruid Oops... my irc client fooled me :-( [13:57] Webdruid I just typed join #owncloud [13:57] jonnyb no worries, welcome anyway :) [13:57] Webdruid and then apparently the autojoin did its thing ;-) [13:57] * jonnyb checks he is where he thinks he is [13:57] Webdruid Thanks anyways! :-) [13:58] * Webdruid knows that jonnyb is where he thinks he might be [14:01] amette_ hehe :) [14:02] amette_ For what it's worth: I had the same problem with OwnCloud... I think it just took a while for Thunderbird to sync them all. [14:09] Webdruid amette_ ah, great. Thanks for the hint :-) Do you have a timescale in mind? [14:11] amette_ I think it depends on the amount of events you have... ownCloud seems to fail frequently, but the sync protocol is robust enough to catch up later. But that's just the conclusion I drew in the end, take with a grain of salt. (And ask in #owncloud to be sure.) [14:16] jonnyb ok, here's a weird thing - i just upgraded my localhost (again?) to use php 5.6 and all my headings now have a � char in them now and it's something to do with the preg_replace line that tries to stop the last word on heading being orphaned - anyone else seen this? [14:18] amette_ PHP 5.6.17 here on localhost, no weird characters in headings, but haven't had my localhost Tikis running on PHP 5.5 previously [14:20] jonnyb i can't find anything else about it, must just be a local artefact, but i can't see how [14:21] jonnyb it happens in the debugger on line lib/parser/parserlib.php:2937 adn it seems to be an invlaid char attached on the end of the $1 from the preg_replace - well strange... [14:22] * amette_ Ctrl-Shift-Ns and Ctrl-Gs [14:24] amette_ But I think that piece of code is above my paygrade... :-| [14:25] jonnyb odd indeed, will have to investigate leter - off out for a little while, bbl [14:25] amette_ Alright, enjoy, see you later! [14:31] Webdruid amette_ Thanks for the insight; and yes, I also noticed that owncloud kind of fails all the time... it certainly needs some tuning [14:33] amette_ Glad to hear that I'm not the only one with those problems. Worst imho is that it usually fails silently - for example it just swallows parts of your contacts and happily tells you "Imported without errors". [14:34] amette_ Regarding the only-partly-synced-calendar-problem you are having: maybe there is some LAMP-stack tuning to be done to make it better, but it won't solve the problem, just make it less frequent. [14:35] Webdruid amette_ currently running it on openmediavault; not with the omv oC plugin, but just installed the deb package and running with nginx [14:36] amette_ Never used openmediavault, just heard generally good things about it. [14:38] Webdruid amette_ I don't think I would use it anymore; killed my whole partition once with a wrong click; that was pretty annoying [14:39] amette_ ouch, that doesn't sound good indeed :( [14:41] Webdruid amette_ I was hoping for an easy NAS solution, but somehow linux and "easy" never worked out for me. You always get to a point, where you have to check the configuration and then you might as well use the command line in the first place [14:42] amette_ Hmm, well, I see it the other way around: there are point-and-click solutions built on Linux that take care of 80% of possible use-cases and when you want to do something special you get the possibility of doing anything you want via the console. [14:43] amette_ Client of mine has a QNAP and it's gorgeous, but then at one point it didn't provide what he needed and there was no way of getting that feature. And that thing wasn't cheap! [14:47] Webdruid amette_ That's also a way to see it... Yeah, I wanted to avoid all those out-of-the-box app-invaded security-leaky QNAP, Synology and whatnot solutions... rather opted for an HP MicroServer [15:46] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:46] jonnyb repolom [15:47] amette_ moloqer [16:02] amette_ For anyone having followed the discussion regarding Tracker->WikiPage linking here earlier: the "proper" way to do it seems to be using PluginTracker with the outputtowiki parameter. Which is a bit weird as it then is not possible to create a wiki-page when entering a tracker item normally, but so be it. I am now running into a PHP Fatal error though when using it. [16:02] amette_ Looks like I found the bug I was looking for at the start of the day... ;) [16:02] * amette_ fires up PHPStorm :D [16:26] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r57497 10branches/15.x/themes/ 10base_files/css/tiki_base.css 10base_files/less/tiki-bootstrap_overrides.less [16:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX] tables: don't let action columns wrap (as seen in admin_structures of late, thanks Geoff) [16:26] Tiki-KGB Some other css changes seem to have occurred, maybe they weren't done in the less files? [16:33] jonnyb amette_: were the css changes revert in r57497 the ones you did at the TikiFest? If so they need to be done in the LESS file then compiled - sorry, i think i removed them :P [16:34] amette_ Hmmm, chiba did one half of them properly and the other was just the sitelogo... let me see you commit, hang on... [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [16:35] amette_ .sitelogo img { margin-left: 20px } <- yes, that was my change... [16:35] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [16:35] amette_ ... I did that in the less file though?! :O [16:36] amette_ I also noticed that gezza's improvements for the log-in module styling in pop-up mode weren't active on all my Tikis... had to compile less on one of them... worked flawlessly on the other (ah, now that I type it... the other was localhost, so probably phpstorm compiled it). [16:38] amette_ Right... my commit at TikiFest was only with the .css... :O [16:38] jonnyb aha, tht would explain it [16:38] amette_ .... I remember us talking about me having to commit the .css, _too_ - but that I then missed to commit the .less?! :-/ [16:39] amette_ yep, that does indeed explain it... I'll redo it properly. 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(but that would be for anonymous only though) [17:16] amette_ No, I didn't, I deleted the page completely via Tiki's wiki page listing. [17:16] amette_ Must have been some kind of caching... but shouldn't that be emptied by "Clear caches"? And I was logged in, not anonymous. [17:19] jonnyb weird - maybe the php opcache somehow (but i didn't think it cached whole pages) [17:21] amette_ Hmmm, opcache could be, maybe... would be weird and probably count as an opcache bug then, but that's the most reasonable cache left to consider here. [17:26] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r57499 10(11 files in 9 dirs) * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/15.x 57480 to 57498 [18:04] Tiki-KGB 03gezzzan r57500 10branches/15.x/templates/tracker_filter.tpl [18:04] Tiki-KGB [FIX] fixing dropdown filter when labels are used (https://dev.tiki.org/item5810) [18:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [18:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [18:26] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [18:36] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [18:36] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [18:36] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [18:38] amette_ Anyone knows any best practices on Namespaces? Something that creates non-ugly and human-usable URLs? [18:39] amette_ As much as I love :: as a Namespace-seperator... it creates %3A%3A in URLs and that's for nothing as inside Tiki it is being rendered as Namespace/PageName anyways :-/ [18:45] jonnyb no idea, the default colon chars aren't legal anyway (as mentioned a lot previously ;) ) [18:46] jonnyb if you enable the base href pref you should be able to use / (but other weirdness may ocurr!) [18:46] amette_ What do you mean? Not legal? I think it works, it just does the urlencoding to %3A and therefore is non-human-usable. [18:47] amette_ Is there any reason for it being three characters? Could be just one also, right? I guess it's just to prevent people from accidentaly creating a namespace by typing a colon in the page name?! [18:47] jonnyb i think so yes, and colons are ok if encoded, but ugly, you're right [18:48] amette_ Ok, cool, if only one character is fine, then I think I found a great solution... [18:49] amette_ ... according to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1856785/characters-allowed-in-a-url the only really usable characters for this are: "-" / "." / "_" / "~" [18:49] amette_ A tilde is imho quite perfect! :) [18:49] amette_ I'd even go with a simple dot, though that might be used by some people in a page name. [18:51] amette_ It really depends on one's use case, but I'd say that the best practice I asked for would be to select one from those four characters. [18:51] amette_ Or any combination of those of course. [18:52] amette_ (I had a site where I used ~username as the UserPage, so wouldn't work on your average geek-site - otherwise: I like that ~ a lot... average WikiUser won't want to create pages with it in the name) [19:09] amette_ Ok, added a best practice section to https://doc.tiki.org/Namespaces - but is there anything preventing us to change the default in Tiki (15) to "~"? Like a "[FIX] Don't use urlencoded Namespaces by default"...?! [19:57] jonnyb sorry amette_ - window got buried ;) [19:57] jonnyb tilde does some special things in search filter urls but probably wouldn't mess this up (maybe for customsearch pages perhaps) [19:58] amette_ np, happens - my drivel stays here for reading later ;) [19:58] jonnyb but i don't think changing a preference is a fix really, the current one was debated on the dev list for ages (and my comments were ignored) so i think you'd need to start that up again i'm afriad (a.k.a. not worth it?) [19:58] jonnyb :) [19:58] amette_ hmm, ok, so need to be careful... still probably safe in the majority of use cases [19:59] amette_ Aah, I see, this is one those things. :P [19:59] jonnyb yup yup, i'd leave it well alone and use what you want [19:59] amette_ Yep, probably not worth it and the right thing for "amette's super-duper TikiProfile". ;) [20:00] amette_ Alright, cool, thanks for the warning! :) [20:56] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [20:56] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [20:56] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [20:59] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [21:04] amette_ jonnyb : please tell me there is something wrong in the first example on this page: https://doc.tiki.org/LIST+-+advanced+output+command [21:05] amette_ Isn't there one {display name="description"} too much? [21:05] * jonnyb checks [21:06] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Chrome issues - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58323 [21:06] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Questions about Fullscreen view - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58321 [21:06] Tiki|bot New Forum Posts: Turning features off errors? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=58311 [21:06] jonnyb certainly a weird thing to do, but not wrong in terms of syntax i tihnk [21:07] jonnyb would make more sense with only one {display name="description"} [21:08] amette_ only in the second FORMAT block, right? [21:08] jonnyb also i would make {FORMAT(name="description")} be {FORMAT(name="desc")} or somethign to show it can be anything as the format name [21:08] amette_ makes sense... do I have to use desc then in the display section later on? [21:09] amette_ i.e. {display name="desc"} [21:09] jonnyb yes [21:09] amette_ k, I seem to understand [21:09] * amette_ goes changing the page [21:09] jonnyb sort of cunfising having description there so many times imho [21:09] jonnyb confusing too ;) [21:09] amette_ yep, I agree ;) [21:11] amette_ should be better now [21:12] amette_ Oh, I changed the "Using a smarty template file" example, too... probably that should have stayed "description"?! [21:12] jonnyb yup :) [21:12] amette_ k, I really do seem to understand *g* [21:12] jonnyb cos that's inside the format plugin [21:13] amette_ and is the field name that is being formatted [21:13] jonnyb so it needs to be one of the fields listed here: https://doc.tiki.org/Unified+Index#Fields [21:14] amette_ aaaah, that's a good one to have! :) [21:14] amette_ Would have saved me experimenting to find the object_id to filter for a single trackeritem. [21:16] jonnyb yes, it's one of the essential list plugin reference pages [21:22] amette_ ooh, I can't use uppercase FILTER, that's unexpected [21:23] amette_ same with output... ok [21:25] jonnyb it's the weird wiki plugin formating - you can iether have {PLUGIN()}{PLUGIN} or {plugin} but not mix them [21:26] jonnyb it was proposed that it should be changed (around tiki 3 or 4 i think) but people complained it might break some badly formatted pages :( [21:26] amette_ gnaaah :-/ [21:26] jonnyb yup [21:29] jonnyb ok, off to the pub, more fun tomorrow no doubt! :) [21:30] amette_ Alright, have fun! Thanks for your help, things start working here! :) [21:58] BadElvis joined #tikiwiki [22:42] Tiki-KGB_ joined #tikiwiki [23:16] fabricius_tux joined #tikiwiki [23:18] Jyhem_ joined #tikiwiki [23:50] amette_ joined #tikiwiki [23:59] amette_ left #tikiwiki [23:59] amette_ joined #tikiwiki