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| Tiki-KGB | 03jyhem r57528 10branches/ 10(7 files in 3 dirs)
[FIX] Provide a way of displaying ShareThis icon on wiki pages (only possible for blogs and articles so far) | [10:08] |
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| amette_ | polo,
polom even *g* | [14:49] |
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| Tiki-KGB | 03chibaguy r57529 10branches/15.x/templates/antibot.tpl
[FIX] Bad white space around CAPTCHA image and regenerate button in small device view. Thanks to Marc. 03chibaguy r57530 10branches/ 1014.x 1014.x/templates 1014.x/templates/antibot.tpl [bp/r57529][FIX] Bad white space around CAPTCHA image and regenerate button in small device view. Thanks to Marc. | [15:00] |
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| 03chibaguy r57531 10branches/ 1015.x/templates/layout_fullscreen_check.tpl 1015.x/composer.lock 1015.x/themes/base_files/less/tiki-miscellaneous_global.less 1015.x/themes/base_files/css/tiki_base.css
[FIX] Restore CSS for Fullscreen button position; use icon sets for button image. | [15:48] | |
| 03chibaguy r57532 10branches/15.x/composer.lock
[SVN]Revert changes in previous commit. (My local, changed composer.lock was committed by mistake.) | [15:54] | |
| 03chibaguy r57533 10branches/15.x/themes/ 10base_files/css/tiki_base.css 10base_files/less/tiki-bootstrap_overrides.less * [FIX] Correct location for global rule. | [16:08] | |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: What means "Up to 11"? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&comments_parentId=58382 | [16:28] |
| Jyhem | polom | [16:30] |
| amette_ | moloq Jyhem :) | [16:38] |
| Jyhem | hi amette_
Jyhem found a useless file: lib/prefs/show.php :-( Thre's only one pref in there and it belongs to lib/prefs/lang.php Jyhem wonders if this is for Tiki15... probably not | [16:45] |
| amette_ | amette_ doesn't know about lib/prefs/ at all | [16:48] |
| jonnyb | pompom | [16:49] |
| Jyhem | hi jonnyb :) | [16:51] |
| amette_ | heya jonnyb :) | [16:51] |
| jonnyb | renaming prefs is a pain, and certainly not a fix, but there are quite a few that could be reorganised to make more sense (before the prefs revamp in 2 or 3 is was all in one file and completely random what each one got called, hence things like show_available_translations insteal of lang_show_available_translations)
hi all | [16:51] |
| Jyhem | agreed. moving it would be easy. Renaming... not much point :-(
Was there a discussion about the translation icon vs the old translation drop-down? (I mean the one in the topline, not the module) | [16:52] |
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| amette_ | Why is there a column tiki_trackers.items ?! I'm not really expecting an answer, since that's probably a matter of taste... but imho that's bad design. It's way too easy to get out of sync with the real item count due to bugs in the code. :-| | [17:11] |
| Jyhem | 10 years ago, there was a lot of denormalisation going on, for the purpose of avoiding SQL joins. So this must have allowed to display the list of trackers with items numbers with a single query. | [17:14] |
| luciash | polom | [17:15] |
| amette_ | moloq bro | [17:15] |
| Jyhem | hi luciash | [17:15] |
| amette_ | Thanks Jyhem! That's actually quite a good answer. It doesn't make the problem go away, but I understand why the problem exists. :)
Avoiding SQL joins was because of performance reasons, I suppose? | [17:15] |
| Jyhem | sure | [17:17] |
| amette_ | k, thnx | [17:17] |
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| Jyhem | the old tradeoffs between normalization (data integrity) or denormalization (performance) | [17:19] |
| amette_ | Sad, but "makes sense". I just noticed it, when a CSV-import failed and my item count was much higher than the actual items.
I'd prefer the data integrity, but well.... amette_ wonders if maybe Tiki only has some dozen bugs and not thousands as mentioned on dev.tiki.org :P | [17:21] |
| jonnyb | :D | [17:30] |
| Tiki-KGB | 03jyhem r57534 10branches/15.x/lib/prefs/show.php * [ENH] Provide missing description | [17:32] |
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| Jyhem | adding a label is ok for 15, I guess (it's like doing a translation) :) | [17:49] |
| amette_ | Yep, I agree... so the file is not useless after all? | [17:54] |
| Jyhem | It is, but removing the file would mean renaming the pref. And that's just asking for useless trouble.
There's already a pending question about wether to rename blog_sharethis_publisher and article_sharethis_publisher to sharethis_publisher (clean solution) or just use blog_sharethis_publisher everywhere (safer). which was not answered yet | [17:57] |
| amette_ | I really don't seem to get that lib/prefs/ thing... :-| | [17:59] |
| Jyhem | it's a multi-step process | [17:59] |
| amette_ | Regarding that question... I think it might make sense to have different sharethis_publishers for different features... but then on the other hand maybe the use-cases in which it makes sense could/should be handled via perspectives. | [18:00] |
| Jyhem | find the proper file for new pref → Name it accordingly → create it → Insert it in admin templates (so people can set it) → use it in php/templates | [18:02] |
| amette_ | Ok, I think I roughly understand - couldn't do it, but I think I get the idea. | [18:02] |
| Jyhem | having different sharethis_publishers ? ShareThis disagrees with you: «The Publisher Key uniquely identifies a publisher and should be used across all the products and domains used by that publisher. Data is tracked and reported back to the publisher in ShareThis analytics. To get separate reports per domain, publishers have to register each domain.» | [18:03] |
| amette_ | Yes, I read that in your mail. | [18:03] |
| Jyhem | You can only set one publisher per Tiki. Or per perspective | [18:04] |
| amette_ | A Tiki could have multiple publishers. Why do Tiki users have to think in the same way as ShareThis? One Domain is one Publisher? Could be that one Team is one publisher and they want to compete against each other and need metrics of their own even though they use the same domain? | [18:04] |
| Jyhem | Well, which is the ShareThis js file you include, then? | [18:05] |
| amette_ | amette_ doesn't know the details of how it works - that's why he didn't answer to the e-mail | [18:05] |
| Jyhem | and right now we could only have competing teams between "blogs team" and "articles team". sounds silly
See templates/header.tpl | [18:06] |
| amette_ | Yep, I also have the feeling that this might be better to handle with only one pref and using perspectives. | [18:07] |
| Jyhem | Exactly. | [18:07] |
| amette_ | Or modules as jonnyb said. | [18:07] |
| Jyhem | Choosing to have a sharethis icon on blogs and not article makes sense. Mixing different publisher keys… i don't get it | [18:08] |
| amette_ | I'm just saying that Tiki was never about forcing ones own view on others, but providing the tools to build whatever. | [18:09] |
| Jyhem | We can already do whatever we like with custom modules. | [18:09] |
| amette_ | well, ok then | [18:09] |
| Jyhem | *we*, not many others
Unless our documentation get much better, or we have videos… | [18:10] |
| amette_ | :D
Sad, but true, yep. But back to the prefs then... after the multi-step process... how does it make lib/prefs/show.php problematic even though it is useless? | [18:10] |
| Jyhem | exactly. It is not problematic, just useless. So, no action | [18:15] |
| amette_ | See? That's what I don't get! :D
Why can't it be deleted, if it is useless? | [18:16] |
| Jyhem | the content needs to be somewhere
that is, in lib/prefs/lang.php *then* it is empty and can be removed | [18:19] |
| amette_ | Ah....?! So the contents are not useless, but in the wrong place? | [18:21] |
| Jyhem | Yes, misplaced and therefore also misnamed | [18:22] |
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| Jyhem | and renaming a pref… you followed jonnyb's point, which I agree on | [18:22] |
| amette_ | k, I think I get it now - the first part of the pref-name comes from the file name in lib/prefs/
so moving it to the right file in lib/prefs/ requires changing every occurence of the pref in Tiki's code so the file is not useless in the sense that it wouldn't be used - it is confusing in the sense that there is no feature "show" | [18:23] |
| Jyhem | yes. We could just move it, but everybody would be confused… Or not much more confused than now :/ | [18:24] |
| amette_ | alright, cool, my confusion just got reduced a bit - cheers, mate! :) | [18:25] |
| jonnyb | bye for now, see you later... | [18:25] |
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