[00:07] fabricius Hi nelsonko still here?
[00:08] nelsonko yes fabricius
[00:09] fabricius how are you?
[00:10] nelsonko ok
[00:10] fabricius ok ok or good ok?
[00:10] nelsonko ok ok
[00:10] fabricius oh what a petty - at least not bad
[00:10] fabricius err pity
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[00:11] fabricius my bad English (sometimes bad, someties good)
[00:11] fabricius this evening I quickly made a basic shopping list with Plugin List and Plugin Tabs
[00:12] nelsonko nice, how is it going?
[00:12] fabricius wanted to bring it to a show instance, but then Bernard recommended to look into Custom Search :D
[00:12] fabricius it is going well, I will exort it to show later on
[00:13] fabricius minor issues left, maybe worth for wishlist
[00:13] nelsonko hehe. good exploration for you for sure
[00:13] fabricius I understand the plugin List now to some extend, can explain to a newbie and can replace trackerlist with it
[00:14] fabricius did you read my tutorial?
[00:15] fabricius I did write it end of last wek and already I used it myself (successfully) to set s.th. up from scratch what was working smoothly from start on ... woohoo at least a first user to make use of it :D
[00:15] fabricius /s/wek/week
[00:16] nelsonko I haven't read the tutorial unfortunately, will look at it at some point soon (I also just saw your emails today)
[00:16] fabricius now I need feedback from List pros and aswell from List newbies to review nd test the tutorial
[00:17] fabricius I thought I drop a few lines, yes - no emergency
[00:17] nelsonko ok - will test :)
[00:17] fabricius thx
[00:18] fabricius the current tracker export/import is awesome aswell
[00:18] fabricius I can create the tracker, import the profile and then the data ... only minutes
[00:19] fabricius using permanent names with prefixes from start makes things easier anyway
[00:20] nelsonko yes
[00:21] fabricius question: when I want to use Custom Search and I have a working LIST including {FORMAT()} commands, what would I have to do? rewrite completely, replace LIST tags with Custom Search tags, putting Format tags to the Custom Search Template Page?
[00:21] fabricius The Docs are not so beginner friendly imho ... I cannot see where to start
[00:22] fabricius I guess a coder or someone experienced with similar functnality might come to a result faster than myself ... BUT I already managed to filter my crudely rendered results ;-)
[00:23] fabricius I am at a similar state as early last week with List
[00:23] fabricius month ago, Jonny mentioned, that List and Custom Search are closely related
[00:24] nelsonko you use exactly what you had for your LIST
[00:24] fabricius ok
[00:24] fabricius I did
[00:24] nelsonko just change the LIST to CUSTOMSEARCH, then specify the "search template"
[00:25] fabricius ok
[00:25] nelsonko that's where you create the UI for the searching
[00:25] fabricius ok
[00:25] nelsonko it should show all the results to start
[00:25] nelsonko (maybe need one of the parameter to autoload or something)
[00:25] nelsonko then you can add a search box
[00:25] fabricius yes, but this way (as result) {column field="TickItOff" label="Activate Item" mode="raw"} {column field="TickItOff" label="Activate Item" mode="raw"} .....
[00:26] fabricius search box is fine
[00:26] nelsonko custom search is just a "filtering" front end for LIST
[00:26] fabricius and when I search for something that is in one of the tracker items, it filters nicely
[00:26] fabricius ahhh
[00:26] fabricius I though or hoped so
[00:26] nelsonko the only complication is that it refreshes the result through ajax
[00:26] fabricius ahh nice!
[00:27] fabricius was looking for that
[00:27] nelsonko but using the table template it should work I think
[00:27] fabricius it doesn't
[00:27] nelsonko does it show the results ok at first
[00:27] fabricius But I am further than I thought
[00:27] fabricius so I put it on show now (after eating somthing)
[00:28] fabricius I think I have a minor thing wrong, some parameter ...
[00:28] fabricius the display is completely broken
[00:28] fabricius but the filtering works
[00:28] nelsonko I have to admit I never used this template with customsearch
[00:29] fabricius what you do?
[00:29] fabricius anything better? or other tasks in projects?
[00:29] nelsonko there is a possibility the JS for the ajax makes it problematic for the Js in the template - I am just guessing
[00:29] fabricius ahh when I use tablesorter
[00:29] nelsonko Normally I use our own smarty template, or if you use a wiki template it is ok
[00:29] fabricius checking
[00:29] nelsonko are you using tablesorter?
[00:30] fabricius I first try with wiki - especially important to get it working on show
[00:30] fabricius yes tableorter
[00:30] nelsonko first try with wiki.
[00:30] nelsonko with ajax output the js that operates on the results need to be loaded with the results
[00:31] fabricius very similar result without tablesorter, but seems to be a bit better
[00:31] fabricius hmmm editable=inlne
[00:31] nelsonko because js that is loaded before cannot affect stuff loaded by ajax
[00:31] nelsonko it needs to be loaded after the ajax is loaded.
[00:31] fabricius wasn't that
[00:32] nelsonko I am not sure if this is the problem in the table sorter case - I never tried it
[00:32] nelsonko maybe it's something else
[00:32] fabricius I thnk I have set all up fairly Ok, but missing something, as I get this result for each item:
[00:32] fabricius {column field="TickItOff" label="Activate Item" mode="raw"} {column field="Amount" label="Amount" mode="raw"} {column field="Item" label="Item" mode="raw"} {column field="Price" label="Price" mode="raw"} {column field="Notes" label="Notes" mode="raw"}
[00:33] fabricius maybe the FORMAT tag not working in custom search=
[00:33] fabricius ?
[00:35] fabricius humm no that was't
[00:35] fabricius wasn't
[00:40] fabricius Anyway thx for hints - I am confident enough now to put it on show and somebody will find the cause
[00:40] fabricius greetings to your wife
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[17:32] amette_ polom
[17:33] jonnyb polom amette_
[17:33] amette_ heya jonnyb :)
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[17:44] Jyhem hey jonnyb, amette_
[17:44] amette_ hi Jyhem
[17:45] jonnyb hi Jyhem - watching the rugby?
[17:45] * Jyhem confused by the consultants tracker
[17:45] Jyhem the what? :-D
[17:45] jonnyb :)
[17:45] Jyhem I suppose France plays?
[17:46] Jyhem that would maybe also require having a TV set
[17:46] jonnyb France 18, Scotland 29 - but was much closer for a while
[17:46] Jyhem oooohhhh!
[17:46] jonnyb anyway, confused by the consultants tracker?
[17:46] * Jyhem had heard france hadn't lost against scottland for years
[17:47] Jyhem well, I have no image/logo, so I thaugt I would simmply add one
[17:48] Jyhem but I see 2 such fields
[17:48] Jyhem I used the simple "browse" one but it seems that no image was saved
[17:50] Jyhem (field 153)
[17:50] Jyhem Let's try the other one (169)
[17:54] Jyhem Hmmm… I do the "upload" thing, I select a local image, I do "select". All looks good
[17:55] Jyhem Then I do the "Browse files" and I can't find the image in the online folder.
[17:57] * Jyhem wonders if anyone added a logo recently
[18:00] jonnyb Jyhem: i think Nelson added a bug report about this recently
[18:00] jonnyb i think they use the old deprecated Image field, not the Files field (which works)
[18:09] Jyhem It looks broken as well as deprecated :-(
[18:11] Jyhem OK, I added the new 169 field in the items listing. Nobody ever managed to set one.
[18:13] jonnyb i seem to recal when we were moving it from info.t.o to there i did try to upgrade the logo field, can't remember where i got to though (not far enough by the sound of it ;) )
[18:14] Jyhem trying again
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[18:21] Jyhem Ohh, so that was it. Thanks Jonny
[18:22] Jyhem I tried to fllow the happy path for providing my photo, and it failed again.
[18:23] Jyhem But the elfinder drag-drop works, and once it's in the file gal, I can select it for field 169
[18:25] jonnyb maybe that field needs some more options setting?
[18:26] * Jyhem reading Nelson's bug
[18:31] Jyhem hmmm, Firebug does not show the http query long enough to confirm I got this 404 he talks about :-(
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[21:52] JWC I can't get my new instalation of 14.2 to connect to my database. Asking for a user and a password. The user I can see from phpMyAdmin but a password? Any way of resetting that from phpMyAdmin or is that database lost to bad memory for ever?
[22:02] JWC Actually that's daft. Surely if I can log into the database in phpMyAdmin then it should be the same user/password ? But is obviously isn't. what does the installer want?
[22:15] fabricius sure JWC
[22:16] fabricius it depends on your serversettings
[22:16] fabricius locally I have created databases with phpMyAdmin
[22:16] fabricius but that is not at every server the same
[22:17] fabricius let's say you do it with phpMyAdmin, then you need to specify which user has wahich permissions/access to which database
[22:18] fabricius in phpMyAdmin, other than in some control centers, creation of database users and databases and connecting user xyz has permission in database abc are three different steps
[22:19] fabricius so likely you missed one or two
[22:19] fabricius so I assume error 40 or pebcak
[22:20] JWC There is a user displayed in the database - basically my root domain name @localhost is that any use?
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[22:25] JWC Aha! I switched to MySQL and found a user and changed the password and now the upgrade is complete. Wow that was a journey. Site is looking a bit odd though, but I really can't spend any more time on it today. Tata for now :-J
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[22:30] JWC Actually I do have one more issue that won't wait. In the upgrade the log in function has dissappeared! How am I to change anything?
[22:37] fabricius you have a link?
[22:38] JWC http://www.cidoc-dswg.org
[22:39] JWC The rtl pages do look better though ...
[22:44] fabricius http://cidoc-dswg.org/wiki/tiki-login_scr.php
[22:46] fabricius if you want and you gave me a temporary admin login, I could check where the login module disappeared and provide one login dropdown/popup top right at the side for you.
[22:46] fabricius ever thought about using SEFURL, meaning getting rid of /tiki-index.php?pageXYZ and have instead /XYZ ?
[22:48] fabricius if you are fancy with the design, you might want to start the site with the plain Bootstrap theme and start from there (very whitish with little bit of light gray)
[22:49] fabricius and I would set in custom css following line:
[22:49] fabricius body {font-size: 1.8em; } to make the font a bit larger and better readable on mobile devices
[22:49] fabricius body {font-size: 1.8em; }
[22:49] fabricius without chat text obviously
[22:53] JWC Thanks for those suggestions, I will certainly follow them up. The upgrade has done some very strange things, or more likely exposed some strange things that I have done. The main thing seems to be that i am no longer an administrator of the site!
[22:56] JWC No scrub that it is just another mangled module. Found my way into admin mode so at least I can start unpicking the damage. Lots to learn, but not tonight ... thanks again fabricius :-J
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