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Tiki-KGB	03yonixxx r58678 10branches/ 1015.x/templates/footer.tpl 1015.x/templates/admin/include_stats.tpl 1015.x/lib/prefs/site.php [ENH] Having the Piwik tracking code separated and saved within stats->piwik setting instead of look->custom (thanks Marc Laporte)	[10:58]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r58679 10branches/15.x/lib/setup/sections.php [FIX] objects: Correct wiki page object id/pagename when using wiki_url_scheme (dashes or underscores). Should fix "Tags conflicts with SEFURL" wish5943 (thanks fvtorres) and possibly other object problems on wiki pages	[12:16]
	03jonnybradley r58680 10(8 files in 7 dirs) [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/15.x 58674 to 58679 Simple "end of file" conflict fixed in templates/footer.tpl	[12:22]
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jonnyb	polom chibaguy	[12:37]
amette_	polom guys	[12:39]
jonnyb	hey amette_ long time no polom :)	[12:39]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb and amette_ and all	[12:39]
jonnyb	:)	[12:40]
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amette_	Yeah, I was quite busy saving myself from bancruptcy, but alive, kicking and happy to be back with you guys now. :)	[12:41]
jonnyb	well done, good to have you back!	[12:41]
chibaguy	indeed	[12:42]
amette_	:)	[12:46]
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Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r58681 10branches/15.x/templates/search/list/carousel.tpl * [FIX] list: Pass on wrap parameter to bootstrap carousel	[12:52]
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Jyhem_laptop	plop :) Hmmm, the search results on https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-searchindex.php?filter~content=plugin&sort_mode=score_ndesc&filter~categories=&filter~language= are totally ugly. Am I the only one who noticed? Jyhem_laptop looks at search display options first (learnt my lesson)	[15:25]
jonnyb	:)	[15:27]
Jyhem_laptop	Hmm, plenty of selections about what shows on the title line, but no "I don't need to show dates and times on top of the exceprt� :-(	[15:30]
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jonnyb	good point, i guess those are the create and modif dates, ugly indeed i see a pref feature_search_show_last_modification for that	[15:34]
chibaguy	I've always been bothered by the label "Content", also. I think it could be taken as "the content I want to search in" rather than the term I want to search for.	[15:39]
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jonnyb	Yes, or "Text" or something might be better	[15:40]
chibaguy	Maybe "Content" should be "Find".	[15:40]
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jonnyb	yes, find or "search" perhaps?	[15:40]
chibaguy	"search for"?	[15:40]
jonnyb	yup, that would be better how do other people do it? drupal's ones says "Search again"	[15:41]
chibaguy	hmm	[15:43]
jonnyb	or just Search if it's not "again"	[15:43]
chibaguy	ok	[15:43]
jonnyb	amette and amette_ : Any idea why doc is using mysql unified engine? I thought you set one up for these servers on the amse thingy, no? Jyhem_ and Jyhem_laptop : seems the date ugliness might only be with the mysql engine - investigating...	[15:44]
Jyhem_laptop	jonnyb: I don't have prefs.feature_search_show_last_modification. It would add the result.modification_date below the excerpt, according to searchresults-plain.tpl	[15:47]
jonnyb	indeed - looks like a bug doesn't happen with elastic search	[15:48]
chibaguy	The body of a plugin is like this, right?: {PLUGINNAME()}This is the body.{PLUGINNAME}	[15:48]
Jyhem_laptop	Oh, I see why it does not bother everybody, then chibaguy: yes I'm lucky doc has the same setup as my customer and myself	[15:49]
chibaguy	Thanks. The subscribe-newsletter plugin body is supposed to show the invitation to subscribe (that I input), but I don't see it in my test.	[15:50]
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Tiki-KGB	03chibaguy r58682 10branches/15.x/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribenewsletter.tpl * [FIX] Finish Bootstrappifying form.	[16:06]
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amette_	jonnyb : hmm, "set one up for the amse.." you mean an elasticsearch? No, I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I remember me wondering why doc (doc of all the sites!) isn't using elasticsearch. (sorry, was afk for a while)	[17:42]
jonnyb	indeed i thought you set one up for dev while we were in Brussels? yes, looks like it - just not used for doc for some reason	[17:43]
amette_	no, I was working on Jenkins while in Brussels "looks like it"?! What looks like what? You found an elasticsearch server?	[17:49]
Tiki-KGB	03chibaguy r58684 10branches/15.x/templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mail.tpl * [FIX] Bootstrappify form.	[17:52]
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Jyhem_laptop	repolom thanks Jonny, much better It's still a bit weird $text is [description]+[contents] now It appears the ''contents'' field is built this way: �page name� �page description� �page content � so.... twice "description"	[18:13]
amette_	Right! amses.t.o facepalm Yes, we have an elasticsearch server in case you guys didn't know. :P	[18:15]
Jyhem_laptop	no, that's cool: we can debug the mysql fulltext option :-D	[18:16]
amette_	hehe ;)	[18:17]
Jyhem_laptop	do any other servers use the elasticsearch server?	[18:17]
amette_	But yep, true, we actually should. nod no idea	[18:17]
Jyhem_laptop	jonnyb: ^ shall I exclude [description] as well?	[18:19]
jonnyb	1 mo pls	[18:20]
Tiki-KGB	03nkoth r58686 10branches/15.x/lib/logs/logslib.php [FIX] Don't ask me why but "galleryId" returned by list_file_galleries actually gives the parentId (because it is analogous to files, since it uses get_files) so action log was showing the parent's name instead of the correct file gallery name.	[18:22]
jonnyb	Jyhem_laptop: well the description might be useful no? Also, which other types of object have descriptions (you're talking about wiki pages i guess?) i was wondering if the returned snippet should have nl2br done on it which would separate out the various parts...	[18:23]
Jyhem_laptop	jonnyb: the description is useful once, not doubled yes, thats a wiki page On the site I'm on, [content] already seems to include �page name� �page description� �page content�	[18:26]
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jonnyb	hi Jyhem_laptop - ok, i see the extra description, i guess filtering that out in the same place makes sense	[18:53]
Jyhem_laptop	I wonder why we don't simply return [content]	[18:54]
jonnyb	maybe some types don't have content (like tracker items) i checked wiht lucene and that's wery broken, no snippets at all :(	[18:54]
Jyhem_laptop	Additional experimenting shows instances (on blogs) which add [freetags_text] before [content] which is not particularly nice either	[18:55]
jonnyb	tracker items have contents field	[18:56]
Jyhem_laptop	Yup, I was about to report the same	[18:57]
jonnyb	maybe a better fix would be to use $content['contents'] if set or the other stuff if not?	[18:57]
Jyhem_laptop	user also have [content] +1 I have the feeling [content] is what the search queries, so I wonder if it's even possible for a search to return objects which have no content but that's just idle musings	[18:58]
jonnyb	done (you may well be right though)	[19:01]
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jonnyb	i think that's theproblem with lucene, is that contents doesn't get set - but out of time now	[19:01]
gezza	polom	[19:02]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r58687 10branches/15.x/lib/core/Search/ResultSet.php [FIX] search: Better handling for ugly search results for mysql engine by using the contents field if set (Thanks again Jyhem_laptop)	[19:02]
jonnyb	hi gezza	[19:02]
gezza	hi! i have a problem with configuring .htaccess	[19:02]
jonnyb	ik, hold on - i see tokencyfzfxyufbyxabypuyfupfdzqyweqrvd etc in my search results now :( reverting that last one fire away gezza :)	[19:02]
gezza	i have a tiki site on at a host i upgraded it to tiki15 and decided to move it from the main public_html folder to a subfolder to organize the files better	[19:03]
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gezza	now my problem is that in the browser i see mydomain.com/subfolder/homepage but i want to still see mydomain.com/homepage can it be done?	[19:05]
Tiki-KGB	03jonnybradley r58688 10branches/15.x/lib/core/Search/ResultSet.php Revert r58687: [FIX] search: Better handling for ugly search results for mysql engine by using the contents field if set (Thanks again Jyhem_laptop) (tokens and other ugliness was appearing in some object types) 03jonnybradley r58689 10branches/15.x/lib/core/Search/ResultSet.php [FIX] search: Better handling #3 for ugly search results for mysql engine - remove description as it is repeated in the contents field	[19:06]
gezza	hope i described it clear :)	[19:06]
jonnyb	you need to point your document root at the folder you want as root - i don't think htaccess can do that but i may be wrong - anyone else? amette_ ? or you have to do an ugly whole page iframe "redirect"	[19:06]
gezza	i have a .htaccess file in the public_html/ that sends requests to the subfolder	[19:07]
amette_	hi guys, hey gezza :)	[19:07]
gezza	and there is the tiki .htaccess in the subfolder	[19:08]
amette_	Just set your document root to subfolder/ or more precisely to /path/to/your/document/root/subfolder	[19:08]
gezza	how do I do that using cPanel?	[19:09]
amette_	Uh, no idea about cpanel.. Somewhere in Domain configuration or such? Domain/VirtualHost/etc. Or maybe cpanel doesn't allow changing the document root (would make sense), then you need to go the RewriteRule route	[19:09]
gezza	the host recommended this: RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^(www.)?oregional.hu$ RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/oregional_hu_tiki/ RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /oregional_hu_tiki/$1 but it is not "masking" the subfolder just redirecting	[19:10]
jonnyb	i think cpanel will let you change the doc root for a subdomain, not sure about the main one though	[19:12]
gezza	tiki has its own htaccess, can it get confused by the other .htaccess file (which is placed in the public_html folder) normal subdomains are fine, the main one does not work	[19:12]
amette_	hmm, maybe, but it shouldn't.. could be though, depending on the case	[19:13]
jonnyb	i finally worked out a little script for moving everything out of the root into a /oldsite and everything in /newtestingsite into the root - maybe that would help (if you have shell access)?	[19:13]
gezza	no shell here	[19:14]
jonnyb	be very careful though, it's bed if it goes wrong :P https://doc.tiki.org/upgrade#Shell_Commands_for_swapping_versions_around	[19:14]
amette_	hmm, ok, those RewriteRules look good, but they go after the wrong problem... hang on a bit	[19:14]
jonnyb	bed/bad (although actually bed might be best) gottago - more fun tomorrow!	[19:14]
gezza	ok, thanks jonnyb	[19:15]
amette_	bye, cya jonnyb	[19:15]
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amette_	gezza : try the following: "Alias / /my/document/root/subdirectory"	[19:17]
gezza	where do I put this? into the .htaccess of the public_html or into the .htaccess of the tiki subfolder?	[19:18]
amette_	In the Apache Config, not sure this would work in the .htaccess since it aliases /	[19:19]
Jyhem_laptop	Much better, thanks jonnyb. Now looking at parsing oddities	[19:19]
gezza	i dont think i have access to apache, it is a shared hosting, not a private VM so i guess I have to move back the tiki files to the public_html from the subfolder	[19:20]
amette_	Hmm, you can try in htaccess..	[19:27]
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gezza	error 500	[19:31]
amette_	yeah, thought so Does it say anything more specific? Can you have a look at apache error logs?	[19:31]
gezza	[Tue May 24 19:30:46 2016] [alert] [client 92.249.230.14] /home/oregiona/public_html/.htaccess: Alias not allowed here	[19:32]
amette_	yep, exactly :-/ It's not inside any tags!? Like inside <Something> and </Something>	[19:32]
gezza	it is the cPanel error log this is all i can access, i dont see apache log file	[19:33]
amette_	I meant the Alias directive in the htaccess. It's not inside any tags, right? if it is on the first or last line of the file and it still gives 500, then it surely doesn't work. Yeah, ok, I found it online, nope, won't work. So yes, looks like your only option here is to move the files back to the directory you had them before.	[19:34]
gezza	ok, thought so thanks!	[19:39]
amette_	np, yw	[19:39]
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fabricius	polom amette_ , gezza , nelsonko , Jyhem_ , refizul : we can have a small devroom at the FrOSCon - what do you think: small devroom or booth?	[19:57]
nelsonko	small devroom will be my vote	[20:01]
Jyhem_laptop	small devroom also	[20:02]
fabricius	joined #tikiwiki So we shall discuss further details what exactly we want to do in and with the devroom (size approx for 10 people) ... I have written down a basic idea of what about we want to do in the application ... I copy that in an email and send to you for now I added myself, refizul, nelsonko, Jyhem_ and amette as active participants of the Tiki community at the FrOSCon - all 5 have edit perms on the application and project description. new account needed - I did use for all only the tiki.org email adresses, so get the account with those emails pls. for Friday we have to discuss with the TechKids (stay in BaseCamp or not - Saturday things work out as planned - so we need sleeping bags woohoo	[20:02]
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amette_	I was a bit away from the community in the recent weeks, but with Froscon one question appeared: are we a "web content mangement toolkit" now and I missed it?	[21:11]
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Jyhem_laptop	amette_: you need to get last roundtable's video	[21:34]
amette_	Jyhem_laptop : k. thanks amette_ isn't happy with it already though :-/	[21:37]
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gezza	amette_ it is not decided yet afaik	[21:43]
amette_	ah, k, I'll look into the roundtable recording before saying any more then	[21:44]
gezza	just brainstorming https://tiki.org/Branding+and+Marketing+Creative+Brief+2016 check this page, full of other candidates #Tagline_proposals_	[21:44]
amette_	Ah, awesome, that looks like some good work!! I'll read into it. :)	[21:45]
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