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[16:09] ford_p hi. while playing around with my tiki installation i noticed chromium blocking a flash element on my site. what purpose does it serve and can i disable it?
[16:10] RadoS ford_p, disable all "media" plugins in tiki.
[16:10] RadoS Apparently some basic JS-code to support such elements is included in each page when enabled.
[16:18] ford_p RadoS: thank you, i think i found the setting.
[16:18] ford_p looks good now
[16:19] ford_p also, mind if i drop some more questions?
[16:19] RadoS Of course we mind, only 1 per person per month.
[16:19] RadoS ... ;)
[16:19] ford_p everything above is for premium only
[16:19] ford_p buy your plan today
[16:20] RadoS Oh yeah, money money money!!! :)
[16:20] ford_p can i make tiki not include fonts from google?
[16:21] ford_p it wants to load from fonts.googleapis.com a lot, but i think they will just use that for tracking. also, i dont care too much about superspecial fonts, so i'd just turn it off
[16:22] RadoS Hmm, didn't notice this yet (new to tiki myself).
[16:22] RadoS ford_p, which version?
[16:22] ford_p lts. 15.2 if i'm not mistaken
[16:23] RadoS ford_p, I use the same, but here they are not included (as far as noScript cares).
[16:23] RadoS Maybe this is also related to a plugin (I have disabled quite a lot).
[16:23] ford_p RequestPolicy finds it loading from there
[16:24] RadoS ford_p, can you figure out the source where it's included?
[16:24] ford_p and i also found the references in the css files
[16:24] RadoS Oh then... which one?
[16:24] RadoS I'd cross-check whether I use them, too.
[16:25] ford_p well, grep-ing through the sources i find countless of references
[16:25] RadoS On my tiki noScript only blocks fonts from my own server, nothing external AFAICS.
[16:25] * RadoS does the same...
[16:25] ford_p mostly in themes
[16:26] RadoS Ah, then it's a theme issue. No idea whether the core-tiki team feels/ is responsible for the themes or the authors directly.
[16:27] RadoS "grep -rl 'fonts.goggle' ." produces no results over here...
[16:27] ford_p well, i use the builtin-themes that are shipped with it, so it might be of some interest to them
[16:27] RadoS wonder where you got those from,
[16:27] RadoS or how you found them.
[16:28] RadoS Oops, typo :)
[16:28] * RadoS types too often goggle intentionally, missed that now.
[16:28] ford_p "grep -R fonts.googleapis.com /my/path " found numerous, in themes and temp folder for minified js/css
[16:28] ford_p well, goggles are not nedded…
[16:29] RadoS ford_p, heh, lucky me I use jqui, there is no such thing in it. :)
[16:30] ford_p well, glad to hear
[16:30] ford_p i might just comment it out of the one i use
[16:31] RadoS Might break some layout/ design intentions.
[16:31] ford_p but protects privacy
[16:31] * RadoS nods.
[16:31] ford_p design relying on violating privacy cant be good
[16:31] RadoS You could copy those fonts (if legal) and provide them locally.
[16:31] ford_p good idea
[16:31] RadoS => if necessary.
[16:33] ford_p you dont happen to know about http-flags for cookies in tiki? the cookies lack the http-only flag protecting them from javascript access
[16:33] RadoS No.
[16:33] ford_p i tried to turn it on in php.ini, but that did not yield the results i expected, so tiki most certainly produces cookies with its own code
[17:03] chibaguy Hi guys. Some themes fetch fonts from Google Fonts. You can edit the theme stylesheet to prevent that. If you want to use a webfont but not import it from a remote server, you can store it locally instead.
[17:03] chibaguy (But the import statement in the CSS would have to be edited.)
[17:05] chibaguy I never heard of a privacy or tracking issue related to using web fonts, though.
[17:06] RadoS goggle tracks everything ... by default. ;)
[17:06] chibaguy Well, the fix is to turn off your internet connection.
[17:07] chibaguy ;-)
[17:09] chibaguy But storing the font files at your server and serving them from there is definitely an option if you want both nice looking (non-default) fonts and more privacy.
[17:13] chibaguy dog outdoor time. bbl.
[17:16] RadoS Aynway... next topic :)
[17:17] RadoS I've read https://doc.tiki.org/Permissions , yet I stumble quite often about being required to set global permissions to have some options work even though they have been previously assigned to category permissions.
[17:19] RadoS Somebody from this channel once stated "permissions are permissive, i.e. if allowed by any instance, then it's allowed" (unless I misunderstood the statement.
[17:20] RadoS For example: I want a group to see structures to which they are granted access via categories.
[17:20] RadoS But this doesn't work with 15.2, complaining "tiki_p_view" were missing, but it's set in the cat perms.
[17:21] RadoS Only when I set the perm globally, then it works, but then it only shows structures allowed by cat perms, not globally.
[17:21] RadoS I.e. perms seem not to be "one is sufficient", but I need both global + cat perms to make some stuff work.
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[17:22] RadoS ... while other stuff works with only cat perms, like editing/ viewing pages works OK without global perms.
[17:22] RadoS Am I missing something or is there something broken functionally?
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