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[10:55] luciash hey chibaguy
[10:55] chibaguy hi luciash
[10:56] luciash chibaguy: how's it going in chiba? :)
[10:56] chibaguy oh, going pretty well.
[10:57] chibaguy how about you?
[10:57] luciash glad to hear :) i'm not in chiba, sadly
[10:58] chibaguy ah, too bad. ;-)
[10:58] chibaguy Actually chiba isn't so special, I think. It's cloudy these days, and my area is mostly suburbs and farms.
[10:58] chibaguy but peaceful.
[11:00] luciash I finished latest fixes for https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/pull/585
[11:01] luciash unfortunatelly there appeared more conflicts at the same time from the upstream so i need to figure them out again and merge :-p
[11:02] luciash I like peaceful places ;)
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[11:04] chibaguy too bad about the conflicts.
[11:05] luciash np, working on it ;)
[11:05] luciash will you be at the roundtable meeting tonight?
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[11:36] chibaguy sorry, was away. Yes, I'll be there.
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[12:02] luciash chibaguy: cool
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[13:34] cannapedia hello
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[13:41] chibaguy On the module admin page, where you indicate the parameters for the menu, select Bootstrap = n and CSS menu = y .
[13:42] cannapedia im in the menu options and i can not find and option to change
[13:42] cannapedia ah
[13:42] cannapedia in the module options
[13:42] cannapedia sec
[13:42] chibaguy right.
[13:45] cannapedia nice
[13:45] chibaguy things are ok now?
[13:46] cannapedia work like it did before, kinda sad though that you cant make sub options with the bootstrap menu, cause i like that you have to click instead of hover, but i really wanna keep my stupid submenus
[13:46] cannapedia works great thanks a lot
[13:47] cannapedia on an unrelated note
[13:47] cannapedia im was getting this error on my registration page "Required features: feature_trackers, feature_ajax, wikiplugin_tracker"
[13:47] chibaguy yeah, there have been complaints about Bootstrap menus only being two levels, but the designers think it's better UI to not have more levels.
[13:48] cannapedia so i simply turned on tracker, and it went away, whats the deal here
[13:48] cannapedia well yeah it IS better UI, but sometimes you still like having the option
[13:48] chibaguy Do you have the option "use a tracker to collect additional user information at registration" or something like that, turned on? That's all I can think of.
[13:49] chibaguy A lot of sites use three levels in menus, yeah.
[13:50] chibaguy I think there's a script to add levels to default Bootstrap menus, but it isn't integrated into Tiki.
[13:51] cannapedia just checked, no i dont have that option selected
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[13:52] chibaguy Hmm, I don't know, then.
[13:58] cannapedia well turning off the tracker makes the error come back so ima just leave it like this for now , but thanks for the helü
[13:58] cannapedia p
[13:59] chibaguy sure, no problem.
[14:00] cannapedia hmm is it normal that i lose all my customized colors and fonts and sizes and stuff after an upgrade?
[14:01] cannapedia did the upgrade using softaculous provided by siteground
[14:01] cannapedia and i just noticed the font that i had configured has reverted to the defualt font of the tiki-newt template
[14:02] chibaguy Where did you configure your font? In the Admin L&F customization tab?
[14:02] cannapedia ¨same with the color... had changed it to light green from light blue and now everthing is back to default?... is this normal? shoudlnt the upgrade restore my settings :/
[14:03] cannapedia hmm was a long time ago, sec gotta find that menu
[14:03] chibaguy Yes, your settings shouldn't have been affected.
[14:04] chibaguy Well, if customizations are stored in the database, they should be untouched. If you made a custom CSS file, then it might have gotten lost in the upgrade.
[14:05] chibaguy That is, now the themes directory is called "themes"; earlier it was "styles". So if it's a file, then maybe the path is wrong now, or the file needs to be moved.
[14:07] cannapedia for fuck sake i cannot find that meu
[14:07] cannapedia menu
[14:08] chibaguy which menu?
[14:08] cannapedia i did not write a custom css, but click through the look and feel wizard where i could set colors in hex i think
[14:08] chibaguy I see. Strange that they're missing now. Database content shouldn't have been touched.
[14:11] cannapedia ... the migration wizard softacoulus or whatever its called, did get stuck at 15% of "undefined" so i left it for an hour... eventually i just visited the site and it seemed to be done migreating, but do you think maybe it fucked it up x(
[14:11] cannapedia ?
[14:13] chibaguy I guess it's possible. Does your site content seem to be all there, generally speaking?
[14:13] chibaguy (And your preferences basically as you had them?)
[14:16] cannapedia yeah everthing else seems fine
[14:17] cannapedia the only thing that seems to be missing are the customizations i made to the css
[14:18] chibaguy Hopefully you can recall what's missing and add it back. I haven't heard of Softaculous messing up like that, but anything's possible.
[14:18] cannapedia hmm well i did a full backup right before upgrading, any chance i can re import my settings?
[14:18] cannapedia cause i have no friggin clue what i change 3 years ago
[14:19] cannapedia width, colors of like everything... damn doing that over would be a pita
[14:20] chibaguy One option would be to find the backup of your database and look in the tiki_preferences table, and re-add the rows that are missing in the new database.
[14:21] chibaguy I'm not sure if softaculous can revert the whole Tiki and upgrade it again.
[14:34] cannapedia hmm everything in the tiki_preferences table seems to be in order
[14:35] cannapedia it just refrences the tikinewt.css
[14:39] cannapedia ...
[14:39] cannapedia https://doc.tiki.org/Theme+Generator
[14:39] cannapedia theme generator
[14:39] cannapedia im pretty sure thats what i used to customize the colors of the tikinewt theme
[14:39] cannapedia fuck
[14:40] cannapedia i was going crazy over here trying to find that menu and its been removed in tiki 15 :(
[14:45] cannapedia so yeah i created a new custom theme with many changes to colors and width and what not... afer upgrade i just have standard tikinewt
[14:45] cannapedia anyone know how/where the themegenerator would save those custom themes/css?
[14:47] cannapedia aha it right there in the db field
[14:47] cannapedia a:3:{s:5:"files";a:1:{s:19:"styles/tikinewt.css";a:9:{s:8:"fgcolors";a:4:{s:7:"#76818e";s:7:"#758c75";s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#71b87e";s:7:"#9eaab4";s:7:"#70ab6d";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#8fba93";}s:8:"bgcolors";a:3:{s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#6aba6e";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#88bf7e";s:7:"#c7d0d9";s:7:"#c8d9c9";}s:12:"bordercolors";a:0:{}s:12:"borderwidths";a:0:{}s:12:"borderstyles";a:0:{}s:8:"fontsize";a:2:{s:5:"1.2em";s:6:"1.40em";s:5:"2.6em";s:5
[14:48] cannapedia ont";a:0:{}s:10:"fontfamily";a:0:{}}}s:5:"theme";s:12:"tikinewt.css";s:12:"theme-option";s:0:"";}
[14:49] cannapedia fukin mess
[14:50] cannapedia so i guess the only thing i can do now is manually try to interpret that jumbled mess transfer it over to the current css...
[14:50] cannapedia god damint
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[14:54] cannapedia man i really wish tikiwiki woudlve transferd my custom theme over when i upgraded... i mean removing the themegenerator is whatever, but at least let me keep that 1 custom theme i created x(
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[14:57] jonnyb pompom
[14:58] jonnyb meeting?
[14:58] xavi hi jonnyb, yes! :-)
[14:58] jonnyb https://tiki.org/live
[14:58] xavi I created the room some minutes ago
[14:58] jonnyb Hi Xavi, well done, on my way :)
[14:58] xavi and tested from firefox that everything works (screensharing, etc). nice
[14:59] jonnyb ok, i'm in
[14:59] jonnyb don't think i can do screen sharing though... hmmm
[15:02] Jyhem pompompom
[15:05] luciash nice and sunny day and I have connection problems again? cmon :-p
[15:11] jonnyb hey fabricius - you coming to the meeting?
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[17:02] cannapedia soooo.... i had a custom theme i created with the theme generator in 9.2, now i upgraded to 15.2 and my theme is gone. it changed back to the default theme i based mine on (tikinewt). i changed a lot of stuff, mostly colors, fonts, sizes and im hoping theres a way i can export my old custom theme and reimport into 15.2... is there a way to do this?
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[17:11] cannapedia i found the value changes in a db backup in the table tiki_preferences saved in the value "themegenerator_theme_cannapedia1", but im not exactly sure how i can turn this into proper css that can be used with tikinewt in 15.2
[17:11] cannapedia this is what the content looks like:
[17:11] cannapedia a:3:{s:5:"files";a:1:{s:19:"styles/tikinewt.css";a:9:{s:8:"fgcolors";a:4:{s:7:"#76818e";s:7:"#758c75";s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#71b87e";s:7:"#9eaab4";s:7:"#70ab6d";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#8fba93";}s:8:"bgcolors";a:3:{s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#6aba6e";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#88bf7e";s:7:"#c7d0d9";s:7:"#c8d9c9";}s:12:"bordercolors";a:0:{}s:12:"borderwidths";a:0:{}s:12:"borderstyles";a:0:{}s:8:"fontsize";a:2:{s:5:"1.2em";s:6:"1.40em";s:5:"2.6em";s:5
[17:17] jonnyb did bbb just fall over? nelsonko?
[17:18] jonnyb sorry cannapedia, theme generator didn't survive the upgrade to bootstrap, you need to use a custom css file of the new custom less preference box
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[17:18] jonnyb Jyhem, chibaguy and all?
[17:19] nelsonko hi, i just left the room
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[17:22] cannapedia soo looking at that mess above i cant really tell what changes i made, and i cant remember either, was 3 years ago or so.... is there anyway to turn that mess into proper css so i can use it with the custom css feature.... or am i just fucked and have to do everything manually again?
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[17:23] nelsonko well stats is off
[17:26] jonnyb cannapedia: do you still have access to the old version of the site?
[17:27] jonnyb because the easiest way would be to look at the minified css output it's using and copy the customised bit from that - not going to be easy
[17:27] cannapedia yes i made a full backup, and i also have a couple old dbs still lying around which still have the custom css part
[17:28] cannapedia found this in the old db
[17:28] cannapedia a:3:{s:5:"files";a:1:{s:19:"styles/tikinewt.css";a:9:{s:8:"fgcolors";a:4:{s:7:"#76818e";s:7:"#758c75";s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#71b87e";s:7:"#9eaab4";s:7:"#70ab6d";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#8fba93";}s:8:"bgcolors";a:3:{s:7:"#8cacbb";s:7:"#6aba6e";s:7:"#a9b8c2";s:7:"#88bf7e";s:7:"#c7d0d9";s:7:"#c8d9c9";}s:12:"bordercolors";a:0:{}s:12:"borderwidths";a:0:{}s:12:"borderstyles";a:0:{}s:8:"fontsize";a:2:{s:5:"1.2em";s:6:"1.40em";s:5:"2.6em";s:5
[17:28] cannapedia but i cant really do anything with that... but those are the changes i made and some more
[17:29] cannapedia is that what you meant? or how do i get the minified css output?
[17:30] jonnyb no, not in the database, in the browser
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[17:32] jonnyb anyway, there doesn't look like there are too many changes in the themegenerator thing (it's a serialised php array btw) so probably quickest to do it again with custom less. there's an example somewhere which should get you started
[17:39] jonnyb any the wiser nelsonko ? need any help testing?
[17:40] nelsonko trying to figure out where the slowness is
[17:41] jonnyb does seem to be common to database writes... wonder what else we could test/compare?
[17:43] jonnyb just tried to save a page on themes.t.o and that was also slow, about 20 seconds - that's on the same server right?
[17:50] nelsonko yup
[17:50] nelsonko tracker saves are also slow right?
[17:54] jonnyb dudn't check that recently but has been bad in the past
[17:57] jonnyb yup, pretty slow, so slow i clicked the save button again so a bit hard to tell :)
[18:22] nelsonko jonnyb: do you know if minify js  is off on dev for a reason?
[18:22] jonnyb nothing i'm aware of, should work ok there i would have thought
[18:33] nelsonko hmm i thought I had turned off the translation assistant which is a known performance causing issue
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[18:45] nelsonko turning off tags strangely speeds up trackers somewhat
[18:45] nelsonko (even though tags are not used in this tracker)
[18:45] nelsonko avoids a join lookup
[18:48] nelsonko seems to me there are just too many mysql queries that are causing a general slowdown rather than any one specific issue
[18:49] nelsonko and then when the ting bottles up it causes a slowdown for everyone  - when the number of open PHP connections reach a limit
[18:53] jonnyb hmmm
[18:54] jonnyb need to use list more then i guess, nelsonko - been meaning to make a list plugin based "since your last visit" for a long time!
[18:56] nelsonko the only thing that is really weird is that saving a tracker takes a long time
[18:57] nelsonko (after clicking save).
[18:57] nelsonko wiki page saving seems faster to me now , though still takes a while, partly I think is large history table, but I am not sure and I don't want to truncate that
[19:00] nelsonko maybe the UI  needs a spinner
[19:00] nelsonko after the Save is clicked
[19:01] nelsonko jonnyb: think you can add a spinner, at least we know it's saving...
[19:02] jonnyb for trackers or wiki pages? would be good for both, also to dim and disable the submit button... have tried a couple of times but it always messes something else up
[19:05] nelsonko trackers
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[19:07] jonnyb well that's odd (in the middle of a client site upgrade ;) ) i just edited the upgrade page on doc and it took 30 seconds to save, i then edited a code plugin nad it saved almost instantly -  odd?
[19:08] jonnyb the trouble with adding a busy spinner to the tracker save is that if it doesn't validate is needs to cancel it... but i'll try to do it sometime
[19:10] jonnyb by the way, i find this very useful for updating live production sites https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page_ref_id=3609#Shell_Commands_for_swapping_versions_around
[19:11] nelsonko I also feel perhaps I should restart mysql to see if it helps
[19:11] jonnyb it works pretty well now (well, perfectly just then)
[19:11] jonnyb ok, gulp - i guess now is as good a time as any? :)
[19:12] jonnyb i was wondering if we could have a go at setting up the mail queue on doc and dev if you have the credentials for the smtp server?
[19:13] nelsonko I don't think I have access, would take me a while to figure it out
[19:13] jonnyb ok, just Frank for that one then?
[19:23] nelsonko yes
[19:23] nelsonko I also increased the cpu of this server...
[19:26] jonnyb coo, that should help, thanks! :)
[19:30] nelsonko that's all for now I think.
[19:39] jonnyb thanks nelsonko
[19:39] jonnyb i'm not it's any faster though, just resaved the doc page and it was over 30 secs this time
[19:39] nelsonko which doc page?
[19:40] nelsonko Upgrade?
[19:41] nelsonko INSERT IGNORE INTO `tiki_links` (`fromPage`, `toPage`) VALUES ('Upgrade', 'MultiTiki');
[19:41] nelsonko each of these took 3 seconds
[19:41] jonnyb yup, that's the one - quite a long page
[19:41] nelsonko it shouldn't take 3 seconds to do an insert like that
[19:42] jonnyb no, definitely not
[19:42] jonnyb also there's only one wikipage link to that one
[19:42] jonnyb or was there one insert per linked page?
[19:42] nelsonko one insert per linked page
[19:43] jonnyb expect that's quite a large table
[19:43] jonnyb i wonder if those separate inserts could be all done at once?
[19:46] nelsonko not sure if this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9819271/why-is-mysql-innodb-insert-so-slow
[19:49] nelsonko maybe we should try one day to convert to myisam to see
[19:50] jonnyb mybe we should start a thread on the dev list to see if anyone else has any ideas
[19:50] jonnyb been a long day here ;)
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[22:06] cannapedia hello, does anybody know if its possible to turn off the little refresh link in the top left of wiki page... its super redundant and looks really silly, im sure there must be an option to turn it off, but i cant find it
[22:06] cannapedia this is what im talking about: http://imgur.com/a/9V9wz
[22:20] fabricius cannapedia: do you maybe have a slightly bigger screenshot - I mean with a bit more information? It looks like a setting in tiki-admin.php?page=wiki ... a tick box to untick, in case this is besides what to show when displaying a wiki page (like id, name, description, ...)
[22:23] cannapedia found it, thank you :D was : "Display page name above page"
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[22:42] cannapedia hmm when i log out tikiwiki makes the boxes of the skyscraper ads on the left side bigger instead of the main "article" area (cause when im logged in i have additional modules on the right side), how can i make the boxes of the adsense module always tstay the same size?
[22:44] Tiki-KGB 03rjsmelo r59712 10trunk/lib/structures/structlib.php * [FIX] Error in toc plugin, introduced in 59680
[22:46] Tiki-KGB 03rjsmelo r59713 10branches/15.x/lib/structures/structlib.php * [bp/59712][FIX] Error in toc plugin, introduced in 59680
[22:49] cannapedia actually this has nothing to do with the ads as the search box resizes itself as well
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