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luciashplom pom
TAG meeting in half an hour!
amette: hi bro
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ametteahoj bracho :) [14:35]
luciashamette: will you be there? [14:36]
Jyhem_yup [14:39]
luciashhi Jyhem [14:39]
Jyhemhi luci [14:51]
ametteluciash: TAG? Either it means something else than I thought or I don't have any reason to be there...!? [14:51]
JyhemJyhem rushing for sometthing to eat [14:51]
luciashTiki Admin Group
amette: -^
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ametteyup, thought so... so no, why would I be there!? [14:52]
luciashluciash thought you are an admin as well :) [14:52]
ametteonly a sys one ;) [14:53]
luciashok, sorry [14:53]
amettenp :) [14:53]
Jyhemgod, root, admin: same thing :-D [14:53]
amettehrhr [14:53]
luciash*g* [14:53]
myricHullo anybody here? [15:06]
luciashmyric: hi, in a meeting now, sorry [15:08]
Jyhemamette: aren't you coming at Fosdem? [15:15]
ametteJyhem: Got a flight, will be at fosdem. [15:16]
RadoSMoin folks, if I were to hire a tiki-coder to have something improved, would it be compatible with updates of core-tiki, or would we have to stick to an old version or have the patched version maintained manually again by that coder? [15:17]
JyhemGood, because you are not in https://tiki.org/TikiFestFosdem2017#People_confirmed
Jyhem adding amette
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ametteah, yup, I was just in the need accomodation table at the bottom of the page... not the smartest piece of redundancy.
amette was wonderig that only three people are coming
RadoS: that depends on, if you're sharing your code or not
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RadoSI guess share, since no secrets involved, related to core functionality.
RadoS ... o O ( ldap usability )
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ametteso you'll commit it to Tiki and other coders will have to take care not to break it - simple as that [15:20]
RadoSRadoS can't code php/tiki.
That's why "hire".
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ametteok, so "your coder will commit it to Tiki and other coders will have to take care not to break it - simple as that" [15:22]
RadoSRadoS grins. [15:22]
amette;) [15:22]
RadoSRadoS guessed so. [15:22]
amettecool [15:22]
RadoSRadoS goes to check the roster. [15:23]
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RadoSNo match for "ldap" + "custom programming"... how to find an ldap-hacker for tiki? [15:30]
ametteI don't think there is anyone specialised in LDAP. I have been digging into it a while back and couldn't find anyone who would know anything about it. But any decent coder should do. [15:33]
RadoSYou mean non-tiki-coder?
generic coder?
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HI
Anyone here?
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RadoSAlways. [15:40]
GrustniKiwiAwesome
quick question. I am using v15, trying to restrict wiki access by LDAP groups.
is there any documentation on that? having trouble finding stuff on Google
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RadoSAsk me. :)
What are you missing on the docs?
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GrustniKiwiwell, for starters, how do i sync LDAP groups to tikiwiki? i have got LDAP working, but no groups have been synced [15:46]
ametteRadoS: I meant a generic tiki coder. A non-tiki-coder will obviously have to learn the ropes around tiki first, so that'll cost you more. [15:46]
RadoSGrustniKiwi, the tricky part about ldap-tiki. :)
There is an article describing some basics for this, have you found that?
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GrustniKiwiyes, although most of it was for older versions [15:48]
RadoSHave you installed all the necessary php-extensions? Some tiki options are not shown to configure without them installed. [15:48]
GrustniKiwii did replicate that in my environment
i've go the ldap php extension installed, is there something else?
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RadoSRadoS checks. [15:49]
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RadoSHmm, seems php-ldap is the only relevant thing here. [15:51]
GrustniKiwi1Yep [15:51]
RadoSGrustniKiwi1, have you corrected this: https://dev.tiki.org/item5657 [15:53]
GrustniKiwi1I will check now
Although, I am not getting a blank page, my groups are not synching that's all
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RadoSJust check whether it applies to you, might have other results for you.
GrustniKiwi1, I checked with 15.2
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GrustniKiwi1Removed the underscore
will check if it syncs now
Thanks
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RadoSWorks?
You changed just 1 or all occurances?
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GrustniKiwi1changed just one
not sure if its working yet
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no go
i changed it in 2 places as well
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RadoSThen your setup must "fit".
Got the "basepath" and other paths relative to it "right"?
I had it wrong and didn't notice for a LONG time that I has mistaken something.
has->had
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myricHi RaDoS we're having an off-by-one bug on file downloads in 12.10
Does that sound familiar?
Hard to believe somebody hasn't noticed that yet
files upload fine (we can pull them back down with scp and they're fine)
But displaying or downloading them with the file gallery adds a "0a" (newline character) to ther front and eats the last byte
which corrupts the file
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RadoSCorrupts the file content or the link to it? [16:16]
myricThe file content [16:16]
RadoSAnyway, I started with 15.2, didn't notice there such a thing yet. [16:16]
myricWell no, but we can't upgrade because we can't update PhP [16:16]
amettemyric: you're right, it's hard to believe... which makes me believe that it must be something with your setup rather than tiki..!? [16:16]
myricHow could any setup physically corrupt the files? [16:17]
amettewhich web server, php, load balancer, reverse proxy or any combination of those [16:17]
myricI guess I will have to dive into the documentation, just hoped it was something obvious you've seen like:
"Oh, you have text mode checked in the blahblah.cfg"
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ametteI don't think that the documentation will yield any answers...
can you try to reproduce on show.tiki.org !?
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GrustniKiwi1RadoS sending you a screenshot [16:18]
amettecreate a bug report on dev.tiki.org and then you can create a show instance when viewing the bug
I am quite convinced though, that it must be something "weird" or special about your server setup.
utf-8 mish-mash maybe...
... have you had a look at tiki-check.php ?
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myricI'll look at it. I've been poking around with tiki-download_file.php [16:20]
ametteOk, first thing is to get tiki-check.php to show all green (or at least most of them, you don't need all the security-things to be green in this case)...
... if that's all fine, then we can dig deeper.
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myricThanks, that helps! [16:21]
GrustniKiwi1who can check my ldap groups setup plz? [16:21]
amettecool, good luck! [16:21]
RadoSGrustniKiwi1, I don't know your local environment.
Besides, dcc doesn't work well over NAT. Maybe upload your image or html-page-dump somewhere.
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GrustniKiwi1ok, if my ldap auth is working in tikiwi, that means that the groups should too
question: under ldap external groups, there are two sections 'ldap user' and 'ldap group;'
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myricI got on the tiki-check and we have some problems we probably can't fix. I'll make a bug report and create a show.tiki.org to see if I can reproduce there [16:27]
RadoSGuess so, but ... it depends on your buttons clicked and data specified matches your structure. [16:27]
GrustniKiwi1both have an option to 'tick' synchronize tiki groups with a directory
i have this option selected under ldap group, should i select it under ldap user too?
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RadoSGrustniKiwi1, I noticed that, too, no clue, but I checked ... both. [16:28]
GrustniKiwi1could you send me a screenshot of your setup maybe? i will compare it to mine
all i need is a reference :)
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RadoSYes, was on it anyway... let me see... [16:29]
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GrustniKiwi1Thanks [16:31]
myricI had to register in tiki.org. Won't be able to file a bug until my account gets activated [16:35]
xavipolom
myric, what's your username in tiki.org?
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amettexavi: I took care of it already - PMed him. [16:43]
xaviah, ok, thnks [16:43]
amettecheers to you too, mate! [16:43]
xavi:-) [16:43]
RadoSGrustniKiwi1, see https://tiki.org/UserPageRadoS
Scroll to the end.
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GrustniKiwi1guys, another question, i have enabled my scoring feature and made some changes there - how users get points
after that, my "score config page" stopped loading, but the feature continues to work
help? :)
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xaviGrustniKiwi1: please, add a bug report about the "stopped loading" you say for that feature
see http://dev.tiki.org/Make+a+wish
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RadoSGrustniKiwi1, try clearing all caches from the admin menu.
That's the 1st anytime something goes wrong after a change. ;)
Hmm, how can I enable a TOC on my userpages page?
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Jyhem{maketoc} [16:52]
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GrustniKiwi1RadoS, cleared all cache and still no go. submitted a bug [16:54]
RadoSJyhem, thanks. [16:55]
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RadoSGrustniKiwi1, re ldap: have somebody else crosscheck all the paths/ items/ names for you, you can be blind for your own typos. [16:56]
GrustniKiwi1will do [16:56]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r60819 10branches/16.x/lib/headerlib.php
[FIX] js minify: Don't minify js files added (late) using HeaderLib::add_jsfile_cdn or add_jsfile_dynamic - should fix the kaltura problem seen on dev.tiki.org, thanks Xavi
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xavithanks jonnyb! [17:59]
jonnybno probs xavi :) [17:59]
xavithat seemed to have been reported in dev.t.o ages ago... [17:59]
jonnybwas a nice edge case - a late minify thing [18:00]
xavi... I created the page https://dev.tiki.org/Community+items to help us all (not just you and me but all the people concerned with the Tiki Community) be more aware of the current items pending feedback, etc. [18:00]
Nemo_bisFYI, Ward Cunningham (the inventor of the wiki) soon speaking at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgx11Q5p9w [18:01]
xaviand I also created the summary tables (heatmap colored) of resolution status vs importance for the recent branches plus future 17x
for the record: https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki15#Summary
https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki16#Summary
and https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki17#Summary
filtered on the open or pending items, of course (closed are not displayed there)
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jonnybhi Nemo_bis - thanks for the link, will try and watch (maybe later) [18:03]
xavithks Nemo_bis
nice guy (I met him years ago in a WikiSym conference)
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jonnyband thanks xavi - nice heatmap thingies :) [18:04]
xavi:-) [18:04]
Nemo_bisxavi, jonnyb: indeed :) [18:05]
xavilast, jonny, some info for you (your feedback will be welcome): I didn't know how to hide a field in a wiki page with plugin tracker since bootstrap...
... I noticed that many bugs didn't have the "Resolution status" field set to New (default value for that field, in theory)...
... because that field was not added in the plugin tracker form at https://dev.tiki.org/Make+a+wish
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myricI'm looking at our tiki page and it seems to be hard coded to use php 1.10.2 [18:06]
xavitherefore, I just added that field, and disabled the dropdown so that the "New" value is added [18:06]
myricIs there a way to upgrade that in tiki 12.10?
Besides manually hacking the code..
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jonnybthanks again xavi - i don't know of another way of doing that [18:08]
xavi@ jonnyb, but how can I hide that field from the form? [18:08]
jonnybhi myric - i don't understand what you mean? php 1.10.2? [18:08]
xaviin the old days, there was a jq trick for that selecting the corresponding td tr
but now, by default, there are no tables, right? (or am I wrong?)
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jonnybxavi: url? [18:09]
amettejonnyb: myric means jquery, I think [18:09]
xavi@jonnyb: https://dev.tiki.org/Make+a+wish [18:09]
jonnybpompom amette [18:09]
ametteheyho jonnyb [18:09]
jonnybxavi: can't you use the class? .tracker_field56 [18:10]
xavijq syntax for a class?
all I know is this: https://doc.tiki.org/PluginJq#Conditional_display_of_fields
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amettemyric: you should use the jquery version that comes with Tiki, there is not really any reason to upgrade it, if Tiki wasn't upgraded... either you'll get the required version in your tarball or you need to remember to run setup.sh and inside that run composer to update jquery to the needed version [18:11]
jonnyb$(".tracker_field56").parent() [18:11]
xaviok, thks testing [18:11]
jonnybjq syntax uses the same as css (mostly, with some extensions) [18:11]
xaviyep, that worked, thanks :-)
$(".tracker_field56").parent().hide();
^for the record
I'll add to the documentation also
and I presume I need to update the profile "Conditional display in forms 14" with that trick for the missing parts that were not working
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jonnybperhaps add a link to https://api.jquery.com/category/selectors/ too? [18:14]
ametteamette is afk for a while, bbl [18:14]
xavijonnyb: that link is there already, at the very end of the page (thanks) [18:14]
jonnyb:D [18:15]
xavi:-)
amette , bro, I know you reported the reason why nextdoc.t.o and nextdev.t.o didn't work in the recent past. Is there a way to let them work again, aside of elastic search issues or backups?
I just tested again: https://nextdoc.tiki.org/ (to provide feedback to lindon on a bug he tried to fix recently for doc.t.o and most t.o sites) but It still says "Site being refreshed. Please check back in 15 min."
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jonnybxavi: trying to go through your wishlist-fest from this morning! :) can't seem to reproduce https://dev.tiki.org/item6196 [18:22]
myricYes, I meant jquery
The dev.tiki.org instance that got created uses jquery 3.1.1
but ours seems to be hard coded for 1.10.2
jquery 1.10.2
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jonnybdid you make the show instance a triki 12.x one? [18:24]
myricThat's what I specified
I don't know how to check the tiki version from the web interface
I still have it up
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jonnybany links?
the version should be on admin/general
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myricWhere is admin/general?
http://brywilharris-11843-6234.show.tikiwiki.org/
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jonnybsorry, it's called control panels now (general)
(can't log into your show instancve myric - should i reset the password?)
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myricthat's fine. It looks like I got a version 17 instance, not 12.x [18:33]
jonnybadmin/general wold be http://brywilharris-11843-6234.show.tikiwiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=general by the way [18:33]
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myricI don't see a way to create a 12.x instance
It's giving me a fully updated v17 instance
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RadoSAbove the "create button" you can select it.
RadoS ... o O ( if it's still supported )
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jonnybit should be there still RadoS (although i have missed it in the past, it's not terribly noticable imho) [18:46]
myricNo version selector I can see.
Do I need to pick it when I file the bug?
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RadoSNo, before you create the instance. [18:47]
xavioff for the day probably, see you all [18:48]
jonnybbye xavi - thanks! :) [18:48]
RadoSjonnyb, I didn't mean the button itself but the old versions. [18:48]
jonnyball supported versions should be on the list [18:48]
RadoSjonnyb, but I agree, I missed it the first time, too. :) [18:48]
myricAh I see it
Dumb
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jonnybit should be set to blank and rquired so you have to actively set it to create one, i think [18:49]
myricCreating a nex 12.10 instance now
new
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RadoSDefault is latest I guess. [18:50]
myricYep [18:50]
RadoSjonnyb, your suggestion would be a great improvement. :) [18:51]
myricI agree! don't let the brainless user click through...
Or copy from the "reported version" to the box
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jonnybit's not easy working on that show tihng though, hard to recreate it locally at all [18:51]
myrichttp://brywilharris-11843-6236.show.tikiwiki.org [18:52]
jonnybcopying from reported version would be best (as well) [18:52]
myricStill not reproducible
Bug not present in show instance
Running on CentOS 6.8
here but show instance is Debian
Could be some odd interaction
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jonnybwhat is the bug myric ? [18:57]
myricfiles in the file gallery are being corrupted
on access
Can download fine with scp
getting a newline character stuck on the front and the last byte chopped off
file size stays same
which makes me think it's and off-by-one bug in the file read of some sort
harrisbw@wk105 /workspace/harrisbw $ hexdump -C 0410161859a.jpg |head 00000000 ff d8 ff e0 00 10 4a 46 49 46 00 01 01 00 00 01 |......JFIF......| 00000010 00 01 00 00 ff e1 17 48 45 78 69 66 00 00 4d 4d |.......HExif..MM| 00000020 00 2a 00 00 00 08 00 0a 01 0f 00 02 00 00 00 0f |.*..............| 00000030 00 00 00 86 01 10 00 02 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 95 |................| 00000040 01 12 00 03 00 00 00 01 00 06 00 00 01
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jonnybmaybe the OS thiks they are text files somehow, so is adding a linefeed char? [19:03]
myricYeah, that's what I thought
It does complain that I'm missing the jpeg handler
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jonnybanything "bad" in tiki-check.php? [19:03]
myricIt doesn't like our PHP version.
But we can't fix that without compiling our own
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jonnybhmmm, which version are you on? [19:06]
myric5.4.16
Latest for CentOS
I might have to suck it up and build an instance at home with CentOS
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jonnybshould be ok for 12.x and nulikley to be connected to the dowload thing i think [19:07]
myricOur environment is pretty restrictive here, so I can't do it at work.
I dunno
haven't found the actual raw "read this file" code
LibgGD is identical version
libgd
jquery is same version
not that I'm on the right instance
not -> now
Even the icon is corrupt
Displays a broken link icon
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jonnybi'm pretty sure it's not a generic centos thing, i have a couple of clients on centos 6 and 7 and never had this issue [19:11]
myricWe are running in an environment requiring a whole bunch of specific configuration tweaks [19:12]
jonnybis there any extra info is you do the download with curl? and with verbose switched on maybe? [19:12]
myriccalled DISA STIG's
Can't download over http. We aren't allowed to serve non-https
Very frustrating working in this environment
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jonnybcurl will run over https won't it? [19:17]
myricYes, but the DoD computers do funky things with certs [19:17]
jonnybnice :) [19:17]
myricYeah
We currently can't get to Wikipedia bacause their provider accidentall revoked their signing cert
And we're the only place on the planet that honors cert revocation
without the option to push past a broken cert
Completely unavailable
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jonnybi have to go now, sorry - maybe when amette or Jyhem are about they can suggest more things to test, they're best with weird server stuff :) [19:19]
myricfgor the last month
OK, thanks for your help!
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jonnybsorry it wasn't actually much help in the end [19:20]
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[FIX] Facebook OpenGraph protocol: if the image is not set do not even render the meta tag with empty content but let the FB sharer choose an image from the page instead
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guest6636Hi - I have a question about permissions in the file gallery. If a student uploads an maths assignment, how can I setup Tiki such that only the math teacher (member of Teachers group) download the file? [21:31]
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guest6636Problem is, at the moment all teachers in the group Teachers can download the students file from the file gallery by guessing the file id [21:32]
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Jyhemguest6636: then you need one group per teacher (or per course). Then you edit permissions for the file gallery [21:53]
guest6636Ok
I am designing a multi school tiki, so there could be hundreds of file galleries. Will that cause server load or performance issues with tiki?
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JyhemOr you create categories for each teacher and you configure permissions for the categories, then you put the file gallery in the category. Same result, it's a matter of taste [21:55]
guest6636As compared to a single folder where all files are stored in a path on the server rather than the db. [21:56]
JyhemHmmm, not sure. Depends on server. The more complex, the more calculation intensive.
But with unfied search (default config since Tiki15), it gets better. Indexing is longer, but using is faster
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guest6636Ah, categories. Thanks jylhem
Another quick question: about linking trackers.
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JyhemIf you have plenty of file galleries, you don't want to check all local permissions
so categories make sense
ok quick (I need to eat now)
not quick enough. See you later
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guest6636I am assigning an auto incrementing id to each student in the tracker and then passing that id as a "values" to another tracker to link both. This is the correct way?
Ok. Bon appetite
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guest6636Yet another question: pretty trackers are very good but for rapid prototyping trackerlist is great; but if an edit and delete button could be displayed at the end of every row, it would be super. Is there a way to do this which I am missing?
Also: why does an Ajax request to update a tracker item (on screen) do a full page load / refresh after update?
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ford_pjoined #tikiwiki
hi, i tried yesterday, maybe someone is around today
i'm having problems with downloading the latest LTS version of tiki from sourceforge. following the link on tiki.org i get to https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki_15.x_Situla/15.3/ which pretends to serve 15.3 but after downloading the bz2 downloader greets me to 15.2
[22:27]
guest6636Hi
I am around, so let me check...
I see a 15.3 offered in a number of archive options, zip etc. Which did you download?
Try the zip
I have downloaded tube zip archive an have successfully installed 15.3 with it
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fabriciusjoined #tikiwiki [22:33]
Jyhemford_p: The bug is that it greets you with 15.2. It's actually 15.3, sorry about that. 15.4 will soon get out and fixes it (and other more important things) [22:34]
ford_pJyhem: thank you, i suspected something like that
no need to be sorry. i look forward to 15.4
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JyhemJyhem has a cold. Needs sleep :-( bye bye [22:36]
fabriciusjoined #tikiwiki [22:37]
Tiki-KGB03luciash r60823 10branches/16.x/templates/header.tpl
[FIX] Facebook OpenGraph protocol: there is no such thing as article:publisher in http://ogp.me/ - should fix two warnings in the debugger on https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/sharing/
03luciash r60824 10trunk/templates 10trunk 10trunk/templates/header.tpl * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/16.x 60821 to 60823
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03luciash r60825 10branches/16.x/templates/header.tpl
[FIX] Meta description: better code logic to not display separtor when there is no text following after
03luciash r60826 10trunk/templates 10trunk 10trunk/templates/header.tpl * [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/16.x 60823 to 60825
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ford_pleft #tikiwiki [23:12]
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Tiki-KGB03montefuscolo r60827 10trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] set comment field size to 255 characters [23:32]

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