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[10:18] Mbiggelsworth Hi everyone
[10:19] Mbiggelsworth I'm a noob and I have a noob question, if someone would be willing to try and help ? :)
[10:21] Mbiggelsworth Maybe y'all are asleep, it's nighttime in the US
[10:22] Bsfez But not somewhere else :)
[10:22] Bsfez What is your question ?
[10:23] Mbiggelsworth hey Bsfez ! :)
[10:23] Mbiggelsworth Ok, I'm in charge of selecting candidates for my company's documentation/wiki platform and Tiki sounds like the best to me
[10:24] Bsfez (to me too ;))
[10:24] Mbiggelsworth I really like the concept and the feature and so on. Now my company is asking me the following (like I said, I'm more of a secretary than an IT guy)
[10:25] Mbiggelsworth they want to know : if we install our tiki platform on a webhosting service now, will we later be able to transfer the whole thing to another server, like one of our own
[10:25] Mbiggelsworth transfer the whole platform as it is, with its structures and users and databases, and contents
[10:25] Bsfez Yes without a problem
[10:26] Bsfez Tiki reside in 3 places:
[10:26] Bsfez Files, you can keep the core from your custom files
[10:27] Bsfez Files (user file), the files (images, pdf, etc) that your user save or view
[10:27] Bsfez Database (mysql) were are saved all the preferences, setting and content (but the files)
[10:28] Bsfez No problem to move from place to place or from version to version (upstream of course)
[10:30] Mbiggelsworth So as long as I know where the file repositories and database are on the hosting server, I can simply move them to our own server, install Tiki there and have it point at those places ?
[10:30] Bsfez yes
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[10:31] Mbiggelsworth Of course, I'm trying to have someone with actual skills to perform both installations, as I wouldn't have any idea how to do that. I'll be "administrating" the platform in terms of access rights ad structures and features (hopefully I can do that)
[10:31] Bsfez As Release coordinator I create/move a dozen of Tiki every month. :)
[10:32] Bsfez Well If you need someone a lot can help you with Tiki. Check : https://tiki.org/consultants (yes I'm there too :))
[10:33] Mbiggelsworth I daren't ask... Do you think you could possibly write down for me kind of a summary that describes in more technical terms what to do for such a move ? Something I could comy and paste and send to the IT guy who'll be in charge of this ? Like the basic information you would need if you were using tiki for the first time ?
[10:34] Mbiggelsworth Oh :) nice :) Although I'm afraid they're not prepared to pay anything (which I hate, because I see no reason why contributions should come free if they'll be making money out of it but hey, see how they hired a complete noob to perform the search *lol*)
[10:34] lincolna https://doc.tiki.org/Tiki+Installation+Guide?
[10:36] Mbiggelsworth Thanks lincolna ! Do you guys think the installation info available on tiki's doc rep is enough for a guy with minimum understanding of server install to perform all that ?
[10:36] lincolna not sure about a minimum. You'd need some idea of what you were doing
[10:36] Bsfez Well having someone that fill every role is not the best practice in my opinion. I manage a lot of project where I'm the technical that help a Tiki admin.
[10:36] Mbiggelsworth Installation, obviously, but also how to move ? If so, i'll just have them read the whole stuff :)
[10:37] lincolna (I've managed to set up a ubuntu server and install tiki despite not knowing much about it, but its taken much longer than any reason to, and I'm reasonably technically capable)
[10:37] lincolna also, I've done something wrong somewhere, as SEFUrls won't work, but that's not important
[10:37] Mbiggelsworth they probably have more than minimum skills. They are It engineers ;-)  it's just me not knowing the first thing about anything. Why it is me talking to you today is beyond me !
[10:38] lincolna Quick questions - is there any way to fill a tracker field automatically based on the value of another field?
[10:39] Bsfez lincolna, yes. You can fill a tracker field automatically based on the value of another tracker with tracker field type : item list, item link, dynamic item list
[10:39] Mbiggelsworth Oh i'm gonna love coming here to asking you more specific questions about actual features, once they install it for me. You were very nice and I'm delighted to get to use IRC again, I didn't even know it still existed (yeah, I'm not young)
[10:40] Mbiggelsworth Thank you very much, Bsfez and lincolna for your help
[10:40] lincolna no, not quite what I'm after - those fields still need a user to pick one from the option, no?
[10:40] Bsfez he he he... there NOT that much traffic here, but we have a Tiki Fest for the FOSDEM and part of the community is there so we use IRC to linkup
[10:41] Bsfez lincolna, not necessarily. You have options to fill field based on another field. (not sure of your use case)
[10:41] Mbiggelsworth I'll probalby be using no more than 10% of Tiki's potential, which is a shame, but I'm really pushing them to opt for that software because I think it's pretty cool :-) (I already had them opt out of Confluence)
[10:42] lincolna hmmm ok.
[10:42] lincolna my use case is perhaps not actually necessary, the more I think about it
[10:42] Bsfez You are welcome Mbiggelsworth and anything we can help with I or other will do.
[10:43] lincolna Basically, I've got a situation where I want some structured data (so Tracker is a good idea for a few reasons), but I also want a wiki page about the structured data
[10:43] lincolna I tired the "wikipage" field type, but it's a nightmare of format breaking etc
[10:43] Mbiggelsworth Thanks again and bye for now !
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[10:44] lincolna so current attempt was using trackerplugin to automatically create a wiki page when the item is added (works great!)
[10:44] Bsfez he he he I have sort of the same dilema right now for a project. I need both worlds and I'm not sure yet what's the best way to do it for my specific case
[10:44] lincolna but I also wanted the tracker item to point to the wikipage
[10:44] lincolna and was trying to do that through pageselector
[10:44] lincolna and obviously users can fill it in manually after
[10:44] lincolna but it's hardly ideal
[10:46] Bsfez Tiki is like a toolbox there are many way to do similar things... using alias to link itemId and {{page}}, using pretty tracker, using pluginList in a template...
[10:46] Bsfez As I mentionned I have myself a quite complex case I have to think of (and do a few test and go)
[10:46] Bsfez wayS
[10:47] lincolna could you expand on the alias solution?
[10:48] lincolna if it makes it easier, the wiki page naming conventions is pretty straight forward - it matches a "name" field in the tracker
[10:50] Bsfez it imply to use the object_id in the plugin list (to display the tracker items) and then in the wiki page to display fields from the same object
[10:51] Bsfez term-{display name="object_id"} (term is the template page) (object_id is the trackerItemID)
[10:51] Bsfez and on the term- page you display the fields with : {filter field="object_id" content="{{itemId}}"}
[10:52] Bsfez I have set a similar case like this
[10:52] lincolna I'm already using a pretty tracker to display fields from the tracker on the wiki page in question
[10:53] lincolna but I think there's something more you're suggesting I still don't follow, sorry
[10:53] Bsfez This is one option, may be with pretty tracker you can achieve the same
[10:54] lincolna but I also want to be able to use say, a tracker list, and show a filtered list of the tracker items, but be able to click through and get to the wiki page
[10:54] Bsfez (frankly I'm not sure I can follow myself on irc... I need to see it :D)
[10:55] lincolna yeah, it's not an easy way to communicate data structures and relations etc
[10:55] Bsfez IMO plugin List is more modern way (more option) to do all what can do tracker, trackerlist plugins.
[10:56] Bsfez More complicate too, but flexibility is here so I force myself to use it
[10:56] Bsfez :)
[10:57] lincolna ok, I assumed all it did was a neatly formatted list
[10:57] lincolna but as I'm already confused by the end of the introduction, I see it does mroe
[10:58] Bsfez Yes it's not "that" easy for me too and I keep copy/paste first then I adapt.
[10:58] Bsfez Got to work... was nice to meet you here and I hope I helped
[11:24] Tiki-KGB 03yonixxx r61236 10trunk/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
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[11:30] Tiki-KGB [rb/61232] [FIX] [TRA] Fixing commit 50568 that added a plurial form working only for a limited number of languages and not all. Reason for rolling back: commited in branch before trunk + typo.
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[11:53] luciash polom
[11:54] luciash Bsfez: hi, I wonder what is [pb] :)
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[12:39] lincolna hmm wait, what does this "StoreRelation" on pluginTracker do
[12:46] Bsfez Hi Luciash, I was checking someone was tracking my typosssss :)
[12:48] Bsfez lincolna, dunno that one...
[12:48] lincolna hmm
[12:49] lincolna well it links the wiki page name and the tracker item field at least
[12:49] lincolna (just changed the tracker field, wiki page got renamed
[12:49] lincolna which is neat
[12:49] lincolna and vice versa
[12:54] luciash Bsfez: :)
[12:55] luciash lincolna: if it is not documented, can you edit the doc page please?
[12:55] Bsfez look interesting !
[12:56] lincolna luciash I think all of the fields on PluginTracker to do with creating a wiki page aren't documented. I'm not sure I know enough of what they're doing to add much mind
[12:57] lincolna oh no, outputwiki is there
[12:57] lincolna in fact, the relation field is in the docs too, somehow I missed that
[12:58] luciash https://doc.tiki.org/Page+selector?structure=HomePage+Tracker
[13:00] luciash or https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTracker ?
[13:00] lincolna the latter
[13:01] luciash ok, I thought it is attribute of the field settings in the tracker
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[14:34] jonnyb pompom
[14:35] Bsfez Helloooo
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[16:51] jonnyb amette: here it is https://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/PhpStorm/Remote+debugging+in+PhpStorm+via+SSH+tunnel
[16:51] jonnyb (polom everyone :) )
[16:51] amette merci jonnyb
[16:51] amette and polom everyone
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