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[01:16] Tiki-KGB [FIX] change the styles for the caption in plugincode to be more like it was in 12.x
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[01:30] Tiki-KGB [bp/r61090] [FIX] fixed bugs related to the display of svg charts in spreadsheets
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[10:20] luciash polom pom pom
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[10:45] lincolna ok. It worked for a while, but now registering doesn't work on my site with any kind of captcha enabled
[10:45] lincolna ideas?
[10:46] luciash check logs, browser console for errors? try different browser?
[10:46] luciash what has changed on your server recently?
[10:47] lincolna on the server? routine ubuntu updates I guess
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[10:48] luciash check server logs for errors - maybe php version changed?
[10:48] lincolna when you click the "register" button it says "saving" for a bit, but then just gives you the page back again
[10:48] lincolna if you disable all captcha (both Reptcha and site) it works
[10:48] lincolna *recpatcha
[10:49] lincolna just tried in FF as well as Chrome, same result
[10:50] luciash saving? hmm... can you submit a bug report and specify version please?
[10:51] lincolna when it works (without a captcha) it says "saving" for longer, then takes you to a page saying reg uscessful
[10:51] luciash and provide all the details...
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[11:14] Padlock Hi everyone !
[11:15] Padlock Guys, I'm pretty bad at using tikiwiki wiki page editing tools and I'm struggling with the use of tables/blocks/splits. Would someone be willing to try and advise me ?
[11:16] luciash Padlock: hi, yes
[11:20] Padlock Let's do this in a separate window ;-)
[11:29] Padlock Or maybe not :)
[11:30] Padlock I have a couple quick (hoepfully) questions. first of all, I was happy to find a wysiwyg editor in tiki wiki, however, the tool bar has the most peculiar behavior. tools that I do select and move to the toolbar no longer appear once I save the bar configuration
[11:31] luciash :)
[11:31] Padlock For example, if I switch to toolbar admin, the indent/outdent button are clearly there, but once I save, they're nowhere in the wysiwyg bar.
[11:33] luciash some toolbars are wiki syntax only and some are for wysiwyg only... so the icons appear only in one mode or the other... but what is your question?
[11:34] luciash (did not see the question mark :)
[11:35] Padlock I don't know how to use some of the tools that do appear in the wysiwyg bar. I actually don't know for starters if I should continue using the wysiwyg editor or if it's preferable that I get used to the wiki editor.
[11:35] Padlock ?
[11:35] Padlock lol
[11:38] Padlock I'm supposed to sprad the knowledge about our new tiki platform to developers, and I don't know if teaching them creating documentation using the wysiwyg editor is a wise idea. As a, experienced user, which mode do you use, and do you think the wysiwyg mode is complete/efficient enough to completely replace the wiki editor ?
[11:40] luciash I would say it is preferable if you get used to the wiki editor
[11:41] luciash I use wiki editor only (if I do not have to) - it is faster and more efficient
[11:42] RadoS wysiwyg editor broke our big tables, so we disabled it altogether.
[11:43] luciash wysiwyg mode is imho only for occassional users (users who do not edit the content every day) edits - not completely ready to replace the wiki editor
[11:44] Padlock Perfect simple answer to a very twisted question
[11:45] luciash Padlock: you can enable the syntax highlighter (switchable on/off) if that helps the users to learn and use the wiki syntax
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[11:46] luciash Padlock: but keep in mind every wrapper over the basic wiki syntax editing slows down the work with the textarea - so the syntax highlighter and even worse with the wysiwyg
[11:48] Padlock Syntax highlighter sounds cool. Is it something like in MS excel, when you type a formula and they show you in colors separate parts based on brackets ?
[11:49] luciash yep
[11:51] Padlock Ok those were my geenral questions about how apropriate it would be to use wysiwyg or not.
[11:52] luciash https://doc.tiki.org/Syntax%20Highlighter
[11:52] Padlock Now, about the creation of tables/blocks/splitting.... i kind of understand how to make a simple table. columns, rows, labels... those are fine. But I need to make more complex stuff. Can I show you ?Maybe there's a specific tool I should use ?
[11:54] luciash Can you link?
[11:54] Padlock I'm afraid I don't have an online rep
[11:54] Padlock Hold on I'll set something up
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[11:59] Padlock There you go : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xnfgh834h0uqbh7/AAAv4Bv_dHp1tqzJrqkRSJ3fa?dl=0
[12:00] Padlock so basically, I though that you might point me to the most apropriate tool to do something that looks like those two items and maybe provide some guidance
[12:01] Padlock I don't really know if it's possible to "imbricate" tables into a table cell, or if there is a way to define some sort of blocks/areas
[12:01] luciash ok, lemme see
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[12:14] Padlock Take all the time you need, luciash, I'm already very grateful you would consider taking a look :-)
[12:15] Padlock I have to go eat my lunch but I'll be back in a tick !
[12:20] luciash Padlock: putting them there as images is no option i suppose? you could use {HTML()}...{HTML} for more complex tables or try PluginSplit - also there is PluginWysiwyg to make only some part of page wysiwyg-enabled
[12:24] jonnyb polom
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[12:34] luciash jonnyb: bolow
[12:35] jonnyb hi luciash
[12:35] jonnyb anf montefuscolo and everyone! :)
[12:45] jonnyb bbl
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[12:46] Tiki-KGB [ENH] CartoGraf: introduce the less file to "do it right" and take the advantage of re-using some variables in the future
[13:10] Padlock sorry took longer than I though
[13:12] Padlock luciash: nope. Maybe the colored one could be inserted as an image, as it only shows generic stuiff, and there are several of them, some including large arrows going from one cell to another, and that is just not possible in tikiwiki. But the other one, with small imbricated sections needs to be created directly in the page.
[13:12] Padlock Pluginwysiwyg may not be of any help for me, as I really wouldn't know how to create such a table, even in wysiwig mode. Would you ?
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[13:14] jonnyb repolom
[13:15] Padlock Hi jonnyb
[13:15] jonnyb hi Padlock
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[13:30] Tiki-KGB [FIX] trackerlist user owned items updated to work with multiple ownership fields
[13:30] Padlock I think I'll try to keep it simple.
[13:31] Padlock I found out I can imbricate some {CODE()}{CODE} inside a {BOX()}{BOX} inside a cell of a basic table, sounds about as simple as I could make it.
[13:32] Padlock However does anyone know how to have the table column separations actually show ?
[13:34] Padlock As in "display the grid" ?
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[13:58] luciash Padlock: use Custom CSS
[14:01] Padlock right. I do not know how to do that, so i'll just insist on how beautiful it looks without all these useless lines ;-)
[14:02] Tiki-KGB 03kroky6 r61423 10trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php
[14:02] Tiki-KGB [FIX] tracker filtering by not(value) was improperly excluding items where fields had no values, i.e. NULL ones
[14:02] montefuscolo Hello!!
[14:02] Padlock Is it also a CSS thing if I want to have some cells of a basic table in a certain color ?
[14:02] Padlock Hi montefuscolo  !
[14:04] luciash Padlock: yes
[14:04] luciash montefuscolo: hi
[14:08] luciash Padlock: Put .lines table td {border: solid 1px #ccc !important} in your custom CSS and then wrap each table where you want the lines with {DIV(class=lines)}...{DIV}
[14:09] Padlock Ah nice ! I was actually looking up how to syntax that lol
[14:15] Jyhem polom
[14:15] Jyhem luciash: I'm on it
[14:16] luciash Jyhem: hi, thx
[14:16] jonnyb pompom Jyhem
[14:17] Jyhem It's not a TIM issue, it's someone making a mistake on Septembre, 26th (most probably myself) on mass-upgrading all show instances as root and not setting the ownerships back
[14:18] Jyhem I guess it was while rushing to upgrade all the tikies everywhere due to some security issue
[14:20] Padlock luciash: thank you so much. I know I come a long way, not knowing html and stuff, but I'll use what you just showed me to find other stuff myself, so be sure you haven't wasted your time on me :-D
[14:20] Padlock thank you so much for your help, I managed to have a nice looking table that actually looks better than the original (which was created in Confluence. Ew.)
[14:21] luciash Jyhem: ah, thx, that kinda explains it
[14:21] luciash Padlock: you are welcome
[14:23] Jyhem 143 instances had the same issue :-(
[14:27] luciash Jyhem: thanks for fixing them :)
[14:28] Tiki-KGB 03kroky6 r61424 10trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php
[14:28] Tiki-KGB [FIX] trackerlist filter by user fields fixes for not clause and filtered fields array
[14:30] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61425 10trunk/ 10composer.json 10composer.lock
[14:30] Tiki-KGB [UPD] recaptcha: Seems zend-captcha had updated itself to v2.7 and this was no longer compatible with zendservice-recaptcha which is stuck on v2.0, so the only option seems to be to update that to version 3.x (seems to work, but is odd)
[14:33] Jyhem luciash: np. yours is fixed and updated. The rest are being fixed (command launched, it just takes a lot of time)
[14:41] luciash lincolna: jonny just commited maybe something related to your registration issue
[14:42] lincolna hmmm, could be
[14:42] Padlock luciash: just so I get the pattern and know what to look for, for now on, can you just give me another example css class, like one that would define the background color of a table cell ? I'm trying to make one up but probably have something wrong
[14:42] lincolna I've switched to using a passcode for now
[14:42] lincolna its hard to know with this sort of thing if it's a tiki bug or something weird with my setup always
[14:42] lincolna SEF doesn't work for me for example, not sure what I am doing wrong
[14:43] lincolna I did find somewhere where it kicked you out to a SEF URL, even if disabled
[14:43] lincolna should have reported it at the time, don't remember where it was now
[14:51] luciash Padlock: it is a bit more complicated as you would need for the specific table cell a specific class
[14:52] luciash Padlock: e.g. if you had <tr><td class="redbg">... you could use .redbg {background-color: red}
[14:53] luciash Padlock: but since the table cells do not have any classes you need to count and use e.g. td:nth-child(2) {...} or something like that
[14:54] luciash lincolna: SEFURLs?
[14:54] lincolna yeah
[14:54] luciash lincolna: can be in your .htaccess
[14:54] lincolna just get lots of 404s if I turn them on
[14:54] lincolna nah, htaccess is sorted
[14:54] lincolna according to the instructions
[14:55] luciash hmm, should work out-of-the-box as soon as you enable .htaccess
[14:55] luciash i mean you should get no 404s
[14:56] lincolna I figure I've done something wrong in setting up the server
[14:59] lincolna so, what I should need to do is copy _htaccess to .htaccess, right?
[14:59] lincolna at the root of the tiki install
[15:00] Padlock Thanks, luciash ! thanks to you and my colleague, who knows a wee bit more than me, i think I've got it ;-)
[15:02] luciash lincolna: yes
[15:02] lincolna yeah, done that (even forced it by deleting  .htaccess as the shel insists they are the same
[15:02] lincolna no luck
[15:04] luciash sorry to hear that :(
[15:04] luciash gtg now, bbl
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[16:13] Jyhem lincolna: maybe the server configuration does not take .htaccess into account?
[16:19] Jyhem You can test that by editing .htaccess and starting with a line with crap, like "gfhvjgjf". If your site breaks with displaying "Error 500", the .htaccess is taken into account. If not, you need to look for the value of "AllowOverride" in the server config
[16:20] Jyhem of course, whatever the result, rmeove the crap line afterwards ! :)
[16:21] Jyhem It used to be that the apache default was "AllowOverride All" but the latest servers I installed all had "AllowOverride None" by default
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[17:00] Tiki-KGB [FIX] define some variables and use them to override some tiki specific selectors like the jQuery-UI modals colors + some clarification in the comment about the theme
[17:54] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61427 10branches/ 10(9 files in 8 dirs)
[17:54] Tiki-KGB [ENH][REF] h5p: Move the display code from the plugin into a service so it can be access from elsewhere (and via AJAX), add a stub fn for action_edit TODO
[17:54] Tiki-KGB Also add missing fileId to loadContent()
[18:09] lincolna Jyhem - yep, that was it
[18:10] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61428 10branches/experimental/h5p/lib/core/H5P/H5PTiki.php * [FIX] h5p: Snake vs camel (snake this time ;)
[18:10] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61429 10branches/experimental/h5p/templates/fgal_context_menu.tpl * [ENH] h5p: Add the display item to the file context menus for h5p files
[18:10] lincolna I think the change to the default probably makes sense
[18:10] lincolna I've had a site compromised before in a way that involved injecting a .htaccess file
[18:30] Tiki-KGB 03luciash r61430 10users/ 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/less/CartoGraf.less 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/css/CartoGraf.css * [FIX] close button color on hover and focus in jQuery-UI modals
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