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Tiki-KGB03lindonb r61532 10trunk/ 10lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 10templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl
[REF] Allow the function to show a tab work wherever the link is in the main page column; rename function to showTab; take out stray return false (thanks Jonny) 		[02:58]
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Tiki-KGB03marclaporte r61533 10branches/experimental/conversejs/ 10composer.json 10composer.lock * Remove duplicate adodb/adodb-php in composer.json and update composer.lock [03:04]
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luciashpompom [08:42]
Bsfezmiaou [08:42]
luciashwoof woof [08:43]
Bsfeztiki zoo feature ?
:) 		[08:44]
luciash:) [08:44]
BsfezGood morning lu [08:44]
luciashboker tov B
or whatever you prefer :) 		[08:44]
BsfezAs long as I can feel the good vibes, you can say whatever you want :D [08:45]
luciash:D [08:45]
Bsfez(would be hard in german I guess) LOL [08:45]
luciashguten morgen :) [08:46]
Bsfezah ok I feel it too :D [08:46]
luciashGUTEN MOERGEN HERR SFEZ!
:D 		[08:47]
BsfezARRHH nein nein nein la kommandantur ! [08:47]
luciashlol [08:47]
Bsfezsomething different, dlvrit.com is the service I use for my social network automatisation [08:48]
luciashapparently they got some issues recently right?
;)
tks for the info 		[08:49]
BsfezI talk to them but wasn't convinced they felt really concerned
I added expiration date for such publication
we'll see... 		[08:49]
luciashtry buffer
they are nice (to me) 		[08:49]
Bsfezthanks for the tip ! :)
I'll keep it open (i want to finish an article) ;) 		[08:50]
luciashcoolio [08:51]
Bsfezdarn dog find a turtle...
lol
tiki zoo is need fast 		[09:01]
chibaguypolom [09:11]
Bsfez(back turtle is safe)
Hi Chibaguy
(wondering if we can use name here ?) 		[09:12]
chibaguyI'm looking at web guidelines for HTML email (like Tiki newsletters) and comparing to how Tiki's are done, and there seem to be prolems.
Hi Bsfez
Recommendations are: use inline CSS, not linked stylesheet; use tables for layout, not divs, etc. 		[09:12]
Bsfez... can't we include ? [09:14]
chibaguyThe newsletters were looking ok for me in Thunderbird, but apparently some other mail clients are more difficult. [09:15]
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chibaguyBut I don't see a way to avoid how we do it now. CSS inliners are available online, but Tiki admins would have to convert their newsletters, seems to me. [09:16]
BsfezI confirm (from my tiki12 experience) but I recall adding base url and stuff like that helped [09:16]
chibaguyAnyway, from the recent newsletter CSS code update, the link to the stylesheet seems to be broken (domain is missing) unless I'm missing something.
newsletter.css isn't being used.
(in trunk)
But I'll do the conversion to use theme styles via less for theme-specific newsletter.css files, expecting the link fix to come. 		[09:17]
BsfezGary, I have bad memory for this things, but adding some header in the newsletter and setting feature (base url or something like that) made it work.
I'm trying to setup an old tiki to check (Sylvie helped me then) 		[09:23]
chibaguyIt's funny that before I did the last trunk update, the newsletters were using the theme stylesheet (the one selected to use at the site).
But that's a big file and a lot is not appropriate for a newsletter, so jonnyb changed it to use base_files/newsletter.css instead; and I'll implement a theme override for this smaller CSS file.
But still it seems we're not doing it the best practices way.
But maybe support is growing for external and embedded stylesheets.
Also maybe it's just me, but the source for the newsletter shows some character weirdness like <div class=”articleclip”> 		[09:24]
Bsfezwell I think that like we can include in a newsletter the "article auto-clip" we can include the stylesheet. [09:29]
chibaguy(double quotes are mangled)
Ok, I'm looking at guides like http://groundwire.org/labs/email_publishing/using_css_and_html_in_email_newsletters/index.html 		[09:29]
BsfezSorry Gary I have to finish something else ...
got it ! 		[09:31]
luciashchibaguy: but we did it that way already [09:31]
BsfezAt the top of the newsletter I added :
<base href="http://www.avtalyon.org.il/" />
<link href="http://www.avtalyon.org.il/styles/nature/newsletter.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
in the txt and that it was working with outlook, gmail, etc. 		[09:31]
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luciashchibaguy: afaicr the CSS from newsletters.css was injected in the newsletter e-mail so it was part of the mail - not linked [09:32]
chibaguyhi luciash. Yes, before I svn-upped trunk (before jonnyb's commit re newsletters) I saw the theme stylesheet embedded at the top of the newsletter.
Now it isn't, after the commit, but maybe a minor thing to fix.
I realize this is the way it was done before, so I guess it works good enough, but the guides actually say don't do it that way.
Apparently some clients strip out everything outside of the body tag.
But I don't have enough personal experience with newsletters or html email to know first-hand. 		[09:33]
luciashah, yup, that might be true
but we can have <style></style> in the body nowadays with html5 		[09:35]
chibaguythat could be something to test.
then again, depending on html5 support in email clients. 		[09:36]
luciashi mean it is valid html5 but I believe it would work anyway in html4
just try a little e-mail test 		[09:37]
chibaguyyep
maybe a good reference: https://litmus.com/blog/a-bulletproof-guide-to-using-html5-and-css3-in-email 		[09:39]
luciash+1
chibaguy: can you start a wiki page about it on dev.tiki.org mayxbe? 		[09:40]
chibaguySure, I'll do that.
There's already a https://dev.tiki.org/Newsletter 		[09:40]
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Tiki-KGB03eromneg r61536 10branches/16.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line
03eromneg r61537 10trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line
03eromneg r61538 10branches/15.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line 		[09:48]
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Tiki-KGB03rjsmelo r61539 10trunk/ 10(5 files in 5 dirs)
[NEW] Add check if the unified index is outdated by object type, when incremental search is not enabled
03rjsmelo r61540 04branches/experimental/outdated-index-detection * [KIL] Check if unified index is outdated submitted to trunk 		[11:12]
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ⓅᵒⓁoᴹ [11:27]
luciashheh, cannot decipher this [11:29]
jonnybhi luciash - might not even be utf-8, but polom anyway :) [11:30]
chibaguyHmm, clever. I see a P in a circle, superscipt O, L in a circle, o, superscript M.
Like saying polom while blowing bubbles ;-) . 		[11:30]
jonnyb:D
hi chibaguy 		[11:31]
chibaguyHi jonnby
or jonnyb 		[11:32]
jonnyb;)
I saw you added some notes to https://dev.tiki.org/Newsletter, thanks!
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chibaguy(my "b" key is sticky these days. Too much eating over the keyboard. [11:32]
jonnybBut i thought the contents of newsletter.css got added in the body of the email - at least that was the intention (ages ago) [11:33]
luciashjonnyb: I see (P)?(L)o? in my IRC client :) [11:34]
chibaguyBefore my latest trunk svn update, I saw the CSS embedded in the mail message. But after your commit, I see a link to it, but actually the CSS doesn't seem to be used. [11:34]
jonnybthat doesn't sound right, i'll check the code [11:35]
chibaguyActually, looking again at the source of a newsletter email in Thunderbird client, I see the newsletter content twice, the first time without html head and without html body tags, the second time with everything intact.
Maybe the first one is displaying?
The email seems to be using client default styling (basic colors, etc.).
Also images in the content aren't displaying.
In the first instance of the newsletter content, the characters are ok. In the second instance (the one with complete HTML elements), the double quotes are garbled like <div class=”articleclip”> 		[11:37]
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jonnybpolom Bsfez [11:52]
Bsfezhi (sorry meeting) [11:52]
jonnybchibaguy: there should be a plain text version for "DOS" email clients (or something) and then an html one for the 21st century people, so that should exaplin the double content
I'll do a local test and see what comes out for me now 		[11:52]
luciashjonnyb: in tiki 12 i think it displayed the html version first if the client prefers it and the text-only version was as alternative for clients who prefer text-only [11:54]
jonnybindeed, that should be the same
chibaguy: i see the error, i added just the name of the base newsletter.css not the contents (doh!) - fixing... 		[11:55]
chibaguyOk, thanks. [11:56]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61541 10trunk/lib/newsletters/nllib.php
[FIX] newsletters: Include the contents of newsletter.css, not the file name (thanks chibaguy) 		[12:00]
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chibaguyI now see the style effects from newsletter.css in a newsletter sent. Thanks, jonnyb.
(checked in Windows Thunderbird and iPhone mail.) 		[12:13]
Tiki-KGB03luciash r61542 10users/ 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/less/CartoGraf.less 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/css/CartoGraf.css
[FIX] add some top margin to prevent the admin wizard overlapping the top CartoGraf header (the .codecaption code in CSS inherited by compilation from latest changes in 15.x branch) 		[12:14]
jonnybwoo, thanks for the documentation chibaguy :) [12:14]
chibaguyjonnyb, is there anything that needs to be done with PHP compile to be aware of and compile the newsletter.less files? They are skipped doing compile all or compile base_files, etc.
(I'm not sure if I need to do anything special other than create the less files with some content; seems like they should get compiled.) 		[12:17]
jonnybaha, good point, i was hoping you knew that bit chibaguy ;) [12:18]
chibaguyheh [12:18]
jonnybdid you commit any newsletter.less files yet? [12:18]
chibaguyNo.
just testing locally so far. 		[12:18]
jonnybi'll have a look a thte compile command, 1 mo... [12:19]
chibaguyI'd think that any .less file that isn't a partial would be compiled into .css.
(partial = not imported by another .less file) 		[12:19]
jonnybno, it needs adding to the file list in lib/core/Tiki/Command/LessCompileCommand.php - can you commit one as a test please and i'll add the code for it? [12:21]
chibaguyok [12:23]
Tiki-KGB03chibaguy r61543 10trunk/ 03themes/base_files/less/newsletter.less 03themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less
[NEW] Default and Amelia theme newsletter.less files, to make smaller newsletter-specific stylesheets. 		[12:26]
chibaguyI added the default file plus one theme file. [12:26]
jonnybthanks chibaguy - the amelia one should be obvious if it works! :D [12:36]
chibaguythat's true [12:38]
luciashthanks guys
i found typo in all the main theme less files
will commit fix shortly
or should I wait?
luciash sings Should I stay or shouldda go? 		[12:41]
chibaguy:-)
You can go ahead, I think. 		[12:47]
luciashchibaguy: tks [12:52]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61544 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Command/LessCompileCommand.php
[ENH] newsletters: Compile newslettter.less in console.php less:compile (thanks chibaguy)
Also fixed some faulty logic comparing file modified times on less and css files 		[13:10]
jonnybOk chibaguy, one more little fix to newsletter.less on it's way, then we should be ready :) [13:11]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61545 10trunk/themes/base_files/ 10css/newsletter.css 10less/newsletter.less
[FIX] newsletters: Add includes to newsletter.less and test compiler (thanks chibaguy) 		[13:12]
03chibaguy r61546 03trunk/themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css * [NEW] Amelia theme newsletter.css file compiled from theme's Less file. [13:24]
chibaguyOk, the theme-specific newsletter.css works. :-). Now just need to add more necessary CSS.
(I can imagine as a future enhancement, people might want to select the theme for the newsletter and not use the site's current theme.)
(Or you could change the site's theme just long enough to send the newsletter - strange workaround ;-).) 		[13:26]
bbl - need to take out dogs. [13:32]
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Tiki-KGB03luciash r61547 10trunk/ 10(36 files in 36 dirs)
[FIX] themes: typo in @import file was pointing to non-existing less file (+ recompiled all themes using php console.php less:compile) 		[13:56]
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Hey everyone !
yesterday I was enquiring about the display of tracker entries according to their status, it seemed complicated because the status is not a field... Anyway, the person who helped me here wasn't so sure about that, and just in case, I wanted to let you know I found how to choose what items should be listed according to status 		[14:03]
jonnybpolom Padlock [14:07]
PadlockHi ! what does "polom" mean exactly ? [14:07]
jonnybit's a mystery :) https://tiki.org/Glossary
for tracker status you just add {filter field="tracker_status" conent="o"} or whatever 		[14:08]
PadlockLMAO love that story about polom [14:09]
jonnybdocumented here i believe https://doc.tiki.org/Unified+Index
:) 		[14:09]
Padlockit's actually status="" and then o, p, c or any combination of the three ;) [14:10]
jonnybok, sounds like it's for something else then - sorry, have to go now, bbl [14:10]
PadlockBut since I couldn't find it yesterday, I just rephrased the output and typed : "here's a list of all currently open items" instead of "pick an item here" lol
thank you ! 		[14:11]
i also have to go. Bye bye ! ;-) [14:18]
Tiki-KGB03kroky6 r61548 10trunk/lib/userslib.php * [FIX] Userslib->get_members to work for empty group filter too
03kroky6 r61549 10branches/ 1016.x/lib/userslib.php 1016.x * [bp/r61548] [FIX] Userslib->get_members to work for empty group filter too 		[14:30]
chibaguyluciash, about your commit, I thought the file extension wasn't necessary for less compiling, actually.
I though the compiler would recognize the file as a Less file even without it. 		[14:33]
luciashchibaguy: too late :D i realized the same after commiting it actually did not recompile anything :-p
chibaguy: it confused me that the only one file reference was without .less file extension... and i thought it was just ignored 		[14:35]
chibaguyWell, it's probably good to be consistent, so a good change. [14:36]
luciashyes, just for the consistency's sake ;)
at least i helped bernard compile his theme ;)
chibaguy: do you know it is the same with sass files? 		[14:36]
chibaguyoh yeah, that's good. I think it may be the same with sass, but I'm not totally sure.
But sass partial files (to be imported) start with an underbar, iirc. 		[14:40]
luciashah, interesting [14:42]
chibaguyI'm hoping there's a PHP sass compiler similar to the less one we use now. [14:50]
luciashyeah, lets hope together :) [14:51]
RadoSMoin... as "admin" I want to save "XML Zip" of a structure, but when I click the link, it produces only an empty page, where to look for errors/ problems?
"empty" as in the html-source has 0 bytes. 		[14:52]
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anyone have a good solution to comparing two input values (e.g. 2 email address fields) to check if they are the same? (useful to verify that user didn't mistype an email address
couldn't find anything in doc 		[15:00]
luciashomstefanov: in trackers?
omstefanov: use the distinct validation
omstefanov: ah, you mean something else
omstefanov: sorry
RadoS: in the server php logs
RadoS: it can be low memory_limit 		[15:08]
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chibaguyluciash: https://sass-lang.com/documentation/file.SASS_REFERENCE.html#partials
Same as less except starts with an underscore.
file name: _colors.scss. @import "colors"; works. 		[15:18]
luciashah, i see, good to know [15:23]
omstefanovluciash: yes, in trackers, but what I need is NOT distinct, but that the value entered in a "enter email second time" is same as "email" (first field). [15:24]
Tiki-KGB03kroky6 r61550 10trunk/ 10lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php 10lib/trackers/trackerlib.php * [FIX] fix trackerlist default search criteria for non-admin users [15:34]
RadoSluciash, meh: http://paste.debian.net/918598/
PHP update keeps biting me in the ass.
You know whether newer tikis are php7 "safe"? 		[15:34]
luciashRadoS: not sure, I would say not yet, maybe trunk, but that is Tiki 17, not released yet
RadoS: is it 15.4? 		[15:37]
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luciashtry update to 15.4 - may be fixed
also it is very unsecure to stay on 15.2 		[15:51]
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Tiki-KGB03chibaguy r61551 10trunk/ 10themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less 10themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css * [ENH] Add selectors to Amelia theme newsletter files. [16:36]
chibaguyHmm, import webfont works ok on iPhone (webkit) but not in Windows Thunderbird, where it looks like Comic Sans is used instead for Amelia headings. [16:41]
luciash:( [16:42]
chibaguyMaybe the import url or something, but imported fonts in HTML email is said to be iffy. [16:43]
luciashmaybe remove that ,cursive definition and use just sans-serif
comic sans is embarassing ;) 		[16:43]
chibaguy:-) [16:44]
luciashat the Lobster font-family definition
in thunderbird there is "Show remote content in this message" under the "Preferences" button on each message - even after that the font does not load? 		[16:44]
Tiki-KGB03chibaguy r61552 10trunk/ 10themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less 10themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css
[ENH] Change cursive to san-serif for Amelia headings (Windows Thunderbird was showing Comic Sans instead of webfont Lobster.) 		[16:50]
chibaguyAh, good point about show remote content. That fixed it. [16:51]
luciashcool [16:51]
chibaguyI guess my last commit is ok, for people who don't "show remote content", san-serif is better than Comic Sans. [16:54]
luciashyes [17:01]
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Hi...
I've just noticed stuff like this in my log:
GET /tiki/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=1+AND+1=2+UNION+SE
LECT+0x6461726b31636f6465,0x6461726b32636f6465,0x6461726b33636f6465,0x6461726b34636f6465,0x6461726b35636f6465,0x6461726b36636f6465,0x6461726b37636f6465,0x6461726b38636f64
65,0x6461726b39636f6465,0x6461726b3130636f6465,0x6461726b3131636f6465,0x6461726b3132636f6465,0x6461726b3133636f6465,0x6461726b3134636f6465,0x6461726b3135636f6465,0x646172
6b3136636f6465,0x6461726b3137636f6465,0x6461726b3138636f6465,0x6461726b3139636f6465,0x6461726b3230636f6465,0x6461726b3231636f6465,0x6461726b3232636f6465,0x6461726b3233636
whoops, sorry, should have been one line.... Anyway, is that known and targeted at an old version? 		[17:46]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61553 10trunk/ 10(20 files in 14 dirs)
[KIL] wikilingo: As discussed https://dev.tiki.org/Endangered+features#Decided_to_be_removed 		[17:52]
luciashGalaxis: what version you have? [18:02]
Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61554 10branches/ 10(78 files in 61 dirs)
[MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 61521 to 61553
Conflicts in lib/tikilib.php resolved manually 		[18:06]
Galaxisluciash: 15.4 [18:08]
luciashGalaxis: thanks, not aware of any issue on 15.4 like this... see the pm - btw, that you see it in the logs does not mean it does anything - it just means someone tried
Galaxis: maybe it was on older versions... it reminds me of something but not sure and busy now 		[18:12]
GalaxisYeah, no problem
But it seems this is someone scanning for vulnerable installations - decoding the hex values just results in variations of "darkXcode" 		[18:14]
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Tiki-KGB03jonnybradley r61555 10users/cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/js/custom.js
[FIX] Better fix for annoying 5 second countdown on not having an error after updating a tracker item (disabled completely now) 		[18:32]
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Tiki-KGB03chealer r61556 10trim/scripts/enablewww.php
[REF] Clarify
Ask about a statement 		[19:48]
03chealer r61557 10trim/scripts/enablewww.php
[REF] Optimize
Clarify prompt for IncludeOptional
Request explanation for part on sudo
Untested 		[19:56]
03chealer r61558 10trim/scripts/enablewww.php
[REF] Simplify
Suggest not prompting for httpd.conf directory
Untested 		[20:08]
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Tiki-KGB03chealer r61559 10trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php
[FIX] replace_hotwords(): empty lines returned when some hotwords containing PCRE metacharacters are present
Escape all PCRE metacharacters rather than just slashes.
Was already present in 2006 		[22:34]
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Tiki-KGB03chealer r61560 10trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php
[REF] replace_hotwords(): Optimize
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