[00:03] asif anybody [00:24] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [00:29] torsten1 joined #tikiwiki [00:52] montefuscolo asif, try adding all permissions and after, remove one by one [01:20] torsten1 polom [02:58] Tiki-KGB 03lindonb r61532 10trunk/ 10lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 10templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl [02:58] Tiki-KGB [REF] Allow the function to show a tab work wherever the link is in the main page column; rename function to showTab; take out stray return false (thanks Jonny) [02:59] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [03:04] Tiki-KGB 03marclaporte r61533 10branches/experimental/conversejs/ 10composer.json 10composer.lock * Remove duplicate adodb/adodb-php in composer.json and update composer.lock [03:18] Tiki-KGB 03marclaporte r61534 10trunk/check_composer_exists.php * update links to https [03:28] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r61535 10trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js * [REF] showTab(): Clarify documentation [04:48] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [07:04] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [07:25] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [08:03] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [08:24] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [08:40] redflo joined #tikiwiki [08:42] luciash pompom [08:42] Bsfez miaou [08:43] luciash woof woof [08:44] Bsfez tiki zoo feature ? [08:44] Bsfez :) [08:44] luciash :) [08:44] Bsfez Good morning lu [08:44] luciash boker tov B [08:44] luciash or whatever you prefer :) [08:45] Bsfez As long as I can feel the good vibes, you can say whatever you want :D [08:45] luciash :D [08:45] Bsfez (would be hard in german I guess) LOL [08:46] luciash guten morgen :) [08:46] Bsfez ah ok I feel it too :D [08:47] luciash GUTEN MOERGEN HERR SFEZ! [08:47] luciash :D [08:47] Bsfez ARRHH nein nein nein la kommandantur ! [08:47] luciash lol [08:48] Bsfez something different, dlvrit.com is the service I use for my social network automatisation [08:49] luciash apparently they got some issues recently right? [08:49] luciash ;) [08:49] luciash tks for the info [08:49] Bsfez I talk to them but wasn't convinced they felt really concerned [08:49] Bsfez I added expiration date for such publication [08:49] Bsfez we'll see... [08:49] luciash try buffer [08:50] luciash they are nice (to me) [08:50] Bsfez thanks for the tip ! :) [08:51] Bsfez I'll keep it open (i want to finish an article) ;) [08:51] luciash coolio [09:01] Bsfez darn dog find a turtle... [09:01] Bsfez lol [09:01] Bsfez tiki zoo is need fast [09:11] chibaguy polom [09:12] Bsfez (back turtle is safe) [09:12] Bsfez Hi Chibaguy [09:12] Bsfez (wondering if we can use name here ?) [09:12] chibaguy I'm looking at web guidelines for HTML email (like Tiki newsletters) and comparing to how Tiki's are done, and there seem to be prolems. [09:12] chibaguy Hi Bsfez [09:13] chibaguy Recommendations are: use inline CSS, not linked stylesheet; use tables for layout, not divs, etc. [09:14] Bsfez ... can't we include ? [09:15] chibaguy The newsletters were looking ok for me in Thunderbird, but apparently some other mail clients are more difficult. [09:15] panamaus joined #tikiwiki [09:16] chibaguy But I don't see a way to avoid how we do it now. CSS inliners are available online, but Tiki admins would have to convert their newsletters, seems to me. [09:16] Bsfez I confirm (from my tiki12 experience) but I recall adding base url and stuff like that helped [09:17] chibaguy Anyway, from the recent newsletter CSS code update, the link to the stylesheet seems to be broken (domain is missing) unless I'm missing something. [09:17] chibaguy newsletter.css isn't being used. [09:17] chibaguy (in trunk) [09:18] chibaguy But I'll do the conversion to use theme styles via less for theme-specific newsletter.css files, expecting the link fix to come. [09:23] Bsfez Gary, I have bad memory for this things, but adding some header in the newsletter and setting feature (base url or something like that) made it work. [09:23] Bsfez I'm trying to setup an old tiki to check (Sylvie helped me then) [09:24] chibaguy It's funny that before I did the last trunk update, the newsletters were using the theme stylesheet (the one selected to use at the site). [09:25] chibaguy But that's a big file and a lot is not appropriate for a newsletter, so jonnyb changed it to use base_files/newsletter.css instead; and I'll implement a theme override for this smaller CSS file. [09:26] chibaguy But still it seems we're not doing it the best practices way. [09:27] chibaguy But maybe support is growing for external and embedded stylesheets. [09:28] chibaguy Also maybe it's just me, but the source for the newsletter shows some character weirdness like
[09:29] Bsfez well I think that like we can include in a newsletter the "article auto-clip" we can include the stylesheet. [09:29] chibaguy (double quotes are mangled) [09:29] chibaguy Ok, I'm looking at guides like http://groundwire.org/labs/email_publishing/using_css_and_html_in_email_newsletters/index.html [09:31] Bsfez Sorry Gary I have to finish something else ... [09:31] Bsfez got it ! [09:31] luciash chibaguy: but we did it that way already [09:31] Bsfez At the top of the newsletter I added : [09:31] Bsfez [09:31] Bsfez [09:31] Bsfez in the txt and that it was working with outlook, gmail, etc. [09:32] panamaus joined #tikiwiki [09:32] luciash chibaguy: afaicr the CSS from newsletters.css was injected in the newsletter e-mail so it was part of the mail - not linked [09:33] chibaguy hi luciash. Yes, before I svn-upped trunk (before jonnyb's commit re newsletters) I saw the theme stylesheet embedded at the top of the newsletter. [09:33] chibaguy Now it isn't, after the commit, but maybe a minor thing to fix. [09:34] chibaguy I realize this is the way it was done before, so I guess it works good enough, but the guides actually say don't do it that way. [09:34] chibaguy Apparently some clients strip out everything outside of the body tag. [09:35] chibaguy But I don't have enough personal experience with newsletters or html email to know first-hand. [09:35] luciash ah, yup, that might be true [09:36] luciash but we can have in the body nowadays with html5 [09:36] chibaguy that could be something to test. [09:36] chibaguy then again, depending on html5 support in email clients. [09:37] luciash i mean it is valid html5 but I believe it would work anyway in html4 [09:38] luciash just try a little e-mail test [09:39] chibaguy yep [09:39] chibaguy maybe a good reference: https://litmus.com/blog/a-bulletproof-guide-to-using-html5-and-css3-in-email [09:40] luciash +1 [09:40] luciash chibaguy: can you start a wiki page about it on dev.tiki.org mayxbe? [09:40] chibaguy Sure, I'll do that. [09:42] chibaguy There's already a https://dev.tiki.org/Newsletter [09:43] luciash good [09:48] Tiki-KGB 03eromneg r61536 10branches/16.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line [09:52] Tiki-KGB 03eromneg r61537 10trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line [09:54] Tiki-KGB 03eromneg r61538 10branches/15.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl * [FIX] tidy up code where a closing > for a div straddled a line [09:54] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [11:12] Tiki-KGB 03rjsmelo r61539 10trunk/ 10(5 files in 5 dirs) [11:12] Tiki-KGB [NEW] Add check if the unified index is outdated by object type, when incremental search is not enabled [11:16] Tiki-KGB 03rjsmelo r61540 04branches/experimental/outdated-index-detection * [KIL] Check if unified index is outdated submitted to trunk [11:22] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [11:27] jonnyb ⓅᵒⓁoᴹ [11:29] luciash heh, cannot decipher this [11:30] jonnyb hi luciash - might not even be utf-8, but polom anyway :) [11:30] chibaguy Hmm, clever. I see a P in a circle, superscipt O, L in a circle, o, superscript M. [11:31] chibaguy Like saying polom while blowing bubbles ;-) . [11:31] jonnyb :D [11:32] jonnyb hi chibaguy [11:32] chibaguy Hi jonnby [11:32] chibaguy or jonnyb [11:32] jonnyb ;) [11:32] jonnyb I saw you added some notes to https://dev.tiki.org/Newsletter, thanks! [11:32] chibaguy (my "b" key is sticky these days. Too much eating over the keyboard. [11:33] jonnyb But i thought the contents of newsletter.css got added in the body of the email - at least that was the intention (ages ago) [11:34] luciash jonnyb: I see (P)?(L)o? in my IRC client :) [11:34] chibaguy Before my latest trunk svn update, I saw the CSS embedded in the mail message. But after your commit, I see a link to it, but actually the CSS doesn't seem to be used. [11:35] jonnyb that doesn't sound right, i'll check the code [11:37] chibaguy Actually, looking again at the source of a newsletter email in Thunderbird client, I see the newsletter content twice, the first time without html head and without html body tags, the second time with everything intact. [11:38] chibaguy Maybe the first one is displaying? [11:39] chibaguy The email seems to be using client default styling (basic colors, etc.). [11:40] chibaguy Also images in the content aren't displaying. [11:42] chibaguy In the first instance of the newsletter content, the characters are ok. In the second instance (the one with complete HTML elements), the double quotes are garbled like
[11:46] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [11:52] jonnyb polom Bsfez [11:52] Bsfez hi (sorry meeting) [11:52] jonnyb chibaguy: there should be a plain text version for "DOS" email clients (or something) and then an html one for the 21st century people, so that should exaplin the double content [11:53] jonnyb I'll do a local test and see what comes out for me now [11:54] luciash jonnyb: in tiki 12 i think it displayed the html version first if the client prefers it and the text-only version was as alternative for clients who prefer text-only [11:55] jonnyb indeed, that should be the same [11:55] jonnyb chibaguy: i see the error, i added just the name of the base newsletter.css not the contents (doh!) - fixing... [11:56] chibaguy Ok, thanks. [12:00] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61541 10trunk/lib/newsletters/nllib.php [12:00] Tiki-KGB [FIX] newsletters: Include the contents of newsletter.css, not the file name (thanks chibaguy) [12:09] Tiki|bot left #tikiwiki [12:09] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [12:09] Tiki|bot joined #tikiwiki [12:13] chibaguy I now see the style effects from newsletter.css in a newsletter sent. Thanks, jonnyb. [12:13] chibaguy (checked in Windows Thunderbird and iPhone mail.) [12:14] Tiki-KGB 03luciash r61542 10users/ 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/less/CartoGraf.less 10cartograf/cartograf_tiki15/themes/CartoGraf/css/CartoGraf.css [12:14] Tiki-KGB [FIX] add some top margin to prevent the admin wizard overlapping the top CartoGraf header (the .codecaption code in CSS inherited by compilation from latest changes in 15.x branch) [12:14] jonnyb woo, thanks for the documentation chibaguy :) [12:17] chibaguy jonnyb, is there anything that needs to be done with PHP compile to be aware of and compile the newsletter.less files? They are skipped doing compile all or compile base_files, etc. [12:17] chibaguy (I'm not sure if I need to do anything special other than create the less files with some content; seems like they should get compiled.) [12:18] jonnyb aha, good point, i was hoping you knew that bit chibaguy ;) [12:18] chibaguy heh [12:18] jonnyb did you commit any newsletter.less files yet? [12:18] chibaguy No. [12:18] chibaguy just testing locally so far. [12:19] jonnyb i'll have a look a thte compile command, 1 mo... [12:19] chibaguy I'd think that any .less file that isn't a partial would be compiled into .css. [12:19] chibaguy (partial = not imported by another .less file) [12:21] jonnyb no, it needs adding to the file list in lib/core/Tiki/Command/LessCompileCommand.php - can you commit one as a test please and i'll add the code for it? [12:23] chibaguy ok [12:26] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r61543 10trunk/ 03themes/base_files/less/newsletter.less 03themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less [12:26] Tiki-KGB [NEW] Default and Amelia theme newsletter.less files, to make smaller newsletter-specific stylesheets. [12:26] chibaguy I added the default file plus one theme file. [12:36] jonnyb thanks chibaguy - the amelia one should be obvious if it works! :D [12:38] chibaguy that's true [12:41] luciash thanks guys [12:41] luciash i found typo in all the main theme less files [12:42] luciash will commit fix shortly [12:43] luciash or should I wait? [12:44] * luciash sings Should I stay or shouldda go? [12:47] chibaguy :-) [12:48] chibaguy You can go ahead, I think. [12:52] luciash chibaguy: tks [13:10] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61544 10trunk/lib/core/Tiki/Command/LessCompileCommand.php [13:10] Tiki-KGB [ENH] newsletters: Compile newslettter.less in console.php less:compile (thanks chibaguy) [13:10] Tiki-KGB Also fixed some faulty logic comparing file modified times on less and css files [13:11] jonnyb Ok chibaguy, one more little fix to newsletter.less on it's way, then we should be ready :) [13:12] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61545 10trunk/themes/base_files/ 10css/newsletter.css 10less/newsletter.less [13:12] Tiki-KGB [FIX] newsletters: Add includes to newsletter.less and test compiler (thanks chibaguy) [13:24] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r61546 03trunk/themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css * [NEW] Amelia theme newsletter.css file compiled from theme's Less file. [13:26] chibaguy Ok, the theme-specific newsletter.css works. :-). Now just need to add more necessary CSS. [13:26] chibaguy (I can imagine as a future enhancement, people might want to select the theme for the newsletter and not use the site's current theme.) [13:27] chibaguy (Or you could change the site's theme just long enough to send the newsletter - strange workaround ;-).) [13:32] chibaguy bbl - need to take out dogs. [13:47] luciash cu [13:56] Tiki-KGB 03luciash r61547 10trunk/ 10(36 files in 36 dirs) [13:56] Tiki-KGB [FIX] themes: typo in @import file was pointing to non-existing less file (+ recompiled all themes using php console.php less:compile) [14:03] Padlock joined #tikiwiki [14:03] Padlock Hey everyone ! [14:05] Padlock yesterday I was enquiring about the display of tracker entries according to their status, it seemed complicated because the status is not a field... Anyway, the person who helped me here wasn't so sure about that, and just in case, I wanted to let you know I found how to choose what items should be listed according to status [14:07] jonnyb polom Padlock [14:07] Padlock Hi ! what does "polom" mean exactly ? [14:08] jonnyb it's a mystery :) https://tiki.org/Glossary [14:09] jonnyb for tracker status you just add {filter field="tracker_status" conent="o"} or whatever [14:09] Padlock LMAO love that story about polom [14:09] jonnyb documented here i believe https://doc.tiki.org/Unified+Index [14:10] jonnyb :) [14:10] Padlock it's actually status="" and then o, p, c or any combination of the three ;) [14:10] jonnyb ok, sounds like it's for something else then - sorry, have to go now, bbl [14:11] Padlock But since I couldn't find it yesterday, I just rephrased the output and typed : "here's a list of all currently open items" instead of "pick an item here" lol [14:12] Padlock thank you ! [14:18] Padlock i also have to go. Bye bye ! ;-) [14:30] Tiki-KGB 03kroky6 r61548 10trunk/lib/userslib.php * [FIX] Userslib->get_members to work for empty group filter too [14:32] Tiki-KGB 03kroky6 r61549 10branches/ 1016.x/lib/userslib.php 1016.x * [bp/r61548] [FIX] Userslib->get_members to work for empty group filter too [14:33] chibaguy luciash, about your commit, I thought the file extension wasn't necessary for less compiling, actually. [14:34] chibaguy I though the compiler would recognize the file as a Less file even without it. [14:35] luciash chibaguy: too late :D i realized the same after commiting it actually did not recompile anything :-p [14:35] luciash chibaguy: it confused me that the only one file reference was without .less file extension... and i thought it was just ignored [14:36] chibaguy Well, it's probably good to be consistent, so a good change. [14:36] luciash yes, just for the consistency's sake ;) [14:38] luciash at least i helped bernard compile his theme ;) [14:39] luciash chibaguy: do you know it is the same with sass files? [14:40] chibaguy oh yeah, that's good. I think it may be the same with sass, but I'm not totally sure. [14:40] chibaguy But sass partial files (to be imported) start with an underbar, iirc. [14:42] luciash ah, interesting [14:50] chibaguy I'm hoping there's a PHP sass compiler similar to the less one we use now. [14:51] luciash yeah, lets hope together :) [14:52] RadoS Moin... as "admin" I want to save "XML Zip" of a structure, but when I click the link, it produces only an empty page, where to look for errors/ problems? [14:54] RadoS "empty" as in the html-source has 0 bytes. [15:00] omstefanov joined #tikiwiki [15:01] omstefanov anyone have a good solution to comparing two input values (e.g. 2 email address fields) to check if they are the same? (useful to verify that user didn't mistype an email address [15:02] omstefanov couldn't find anything in doc [15:08] luciash omstefanov: in trackers? [15:08] luciash omstefanov: use the distinct validation [15:09] luciash omstefanov: ah, you mean something else [15:09] luciash omstefanov: sorry [15:10] luciash RadoS: in the server php logs [15:10] luciash RadoS: it can be low memory_limit [15:15] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [15:17] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [15:18] chibaguy luciash: https://sass-lang.com/documentation/file.SASS_REFERENCE.html#partials [15:19] chibaguy Same as less except starts with an underscore. [15:20] chibaguy file name: _colors.scss. @import "colors"; works. [15:23] luciash ah, i see, good to know [15:24] omstefanov luciash: yes, in trackers, but what I need is NOT distinct, but that the value entered in a "enter email second time" is same as "email" (first field). [15:34] Tiki-KGB 03kroky6 r61550 10trunk/ 10lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php 10lib/trackers/trackerlib.php * [FIX] fix trackerlist default search criteria for non-admin users [15:34] RadoS luciash, meh: http://paste.debian.net/918598/ [15:35] RadoS PHP update keeps biting me in the ass. [15:35] RadoS You know whether newer tikis are php7 "safe"? [15:37] luciash RadoS: not sure, I would say not yet, maybe trunk, but that is Tiki 17, not released yet [15:39] luciash RadoS: is it 15.4? [15:46] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [15:48] RadoS 15.2 [15:50] Bsfez_ joined #tikiwiki [15:51] luciash try update to 15.4 - may be fixed [15:51] luciash also it is very unsecure to stay on 15.2 [16:36] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r61551 10trunk/ 10themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less 10themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css * [ENH] Add selectors to Amelia theme newsletter files. [16:41] chibaguy Hmm, import webfont works ok on iPhone (webkit) but not in Windows Thunderbird, where it looks like Comic Sans is used instead for Amelia headings. [16:42] luciash :( [16:43] chibaguy Maybe the import url or something, but imported fonts in HTML email is said to be iffy. [16:43] luciash maybe remove that ,cursive definition and use just sans-serif [16:43] luciash comic sans is embarassing ;) [16:44] chibaguy :-) [16:44] luciash at the Lobster font-family definition [16:46] luciash in thunderbird there is "Show remote content in this message" under the "Preferences" button on each message - even after that the font does not load? [16:50] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r61552 10trunk/ 10themes/amelia/less/newsletter.less 10themes/amelia/css/newsletter.css [16:50] Tiki-KGB [ENH] Change cursive to san-serif for Amelia headings (Windows Thunderbird was showing Comic Sans instead of webfont Lobster.) [16:51] chibaguy Ah, good point about show remote content. That fixed it. [16:51] luciash cool [16:54] chibaguy I guess my last commit is ok, for people who don't "show remote content", san-serif is better than Comic Sans. [17:01] luciash yes [17:03] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [17:05] chibaguy Time to sleep; see y'all later. [17:35] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [17:46] Galaxis joined #tikiwiki [17:48] Galaxis Hi... [17:48] Galaxis I've just noticed stuff like this in my log: [17:48] Galaxis GET /tiki/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=1+AND+1=2+UNION+SE [17:48] Galaxis LECT+0x6461726b31636f6465,0x6461726b32636f6465,0x6461726b33636f6465,0x6461726b34636f6465,0x6461726b35636f6465,0x6461726b36636f6465,0x6461726b37636f6465,0x6461726b38636f64 [17:49] Galaxis 65,0x6461726b39636f6465,0x6461726b3130636f6465,0x6461726b3131636f6465,0x6461726b3132636f6465,0x6461726b3133636f6465,0x6461726b3134636f6465,0x6461726b3135636f6465,0x646172 [17:49] Galaxis 6b3136636f6465,0x6461726b3137636f6465,0x6461726b3138636f6465,0x6461726b3139636f6465,0x6461726b3230636f6465,0x6461726b3231636f6465,0x6461726b3232636f6465,0x6461726b3233636 [17:49] Galaxis whoops, sorry, should have been one line.... Anyway, is that known and targeted at an old version? [17:52] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r61553 10trunk/ 10(20 files in 14 dirs) [17:52] Tiki-KGB [KIL] wikilingo: As discussed https://dev.tiki.org/Endangered+features#Decided_to_be_removed [18:02] luciash Galaxis: what version you have? 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