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I would like to changee it to 0px [08:19] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [08:19] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [08:25] redflo joined #tikiwiki [08:50] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [09:14] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [10:12] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [10:24] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [10:43] jonnyb pompompom [10:48] Bsfez pompom [10:49] jonnyb hi Bsfez [10:49] jonnyb looks like the spammers are back today :( [10:50] Bsfez ... look like I was disconnected without knowing it on Doc... :( [10:51] jonnyb Could be Monday then? [10:51] Bsfez well not for me :D :D :D [10:53] Bsfez Find another good one : https://doc.tiki.org/LIST+-+FORMAT+command?no_bl=y#Display_an_Item_Link_tracker_item_linked_to_another_item_within_a_template_page [10:55] jonnyb nice :) [10:55] jonnyb have you used the list gui yet Bsfez ? [10:55] Bsfez not yet I worked only in 16 so far [10:55] Bsfez I should move very soon most of my own to 17 (time...) [10:57] Bsfez I found something very annoying... when a page is used as template/alias it always show the page name (title) even if it is set to OFF on the page: [10:57] Bsfez http://addresssuccess.com/record-9-Marie%20Curie [10:57] Bsfez I was on my way to fill a bug report :) [11:04] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r62496 10branches/17.x/ 10(56 files in 56 dirs) [11:04] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Correct spelling and grammar errors in interface text and comments; no code changes. [11:04] jonnyb you know you can user pagetitle=y on a display plug and so have the page title be a tracker field? [11:05] Jyhem polom [11:11] jonnyb moqmoq Jyhem [11:11] Bsfez ha ha ! :) [11:11] Bsfez Salut Jyhem [11:11] Bsfez now I know, but still, I consider this is a bug worth to be fixed. [11:11] jonnyb glad the election sort of worked out ok in the end, i had a really nasty feeling (3rd in a row etc) [11:12] Tiki-KGB 03chibaguy r62497 10(57 files in 57 dirs) [11:12] Tiki-KGB [MRG][FIX] Correct spelling and grammar errors in interface text and comments; no code changes. [from revision 62496, branch 17] [11:12] Jyhem I came back too late. Only saw the "Release test failed here on PHP 7.1" messages and assumed the release was postponed. [11:12] Jyhem Congrats and thanks [11:13] jonnyb no, i thought i'd keep going :) [11:14] Jyhem bad news: the demo error message is not the HSTS thing I was thinking about. It's something totaly new and unknows about which I have no clue :-( [11:14] Jyhem This failed for me: http://techworldzone.com/2017/01/24/fix-chromes-err_spdy_protocol_error/ [11:15] Bsfez jonny this parameter (pagetitle) should be in the format right : {FORMAT(name="title")}{display name="tracker_field_successfulName" default="" pagetitle="y"}{FORMAT} ? [11:16] Jyhem I have to leave for a long-planned barbecue (it's a holiday today here), planned before one knew it would be rainy :-/ [11:16] jonnyb yup, actually inside a display, which can be in a format [11:16] Jyhem will test later, after meeting [11:16] Bsfez well it doesn't work on a tiki15... [11:16] jonnyb it always rains here if it's a holiday monday and some one says barbeque [11:17] jonnyb Bsfez: should be in 15 i thought [11:17] jonnyb if the page title position and stuff are set to "normal" settings [11:18] Bsfez yes I think also... In fact my code was already set like this... oh... let's try something [11:20] Bsfez by default (admin->wiki) "Display page name as page title" is enable. [11:21] Bsfez on the page I tried properties -> Show page title default (with pagetitle="y") = real page name displayed [11:22] Bsfez I also tried with properties -> Show page title off = same [11:23] jonnyb hmmm, odd Bsfez - let me check [11:24] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r62498 10branches/17.x/tiki-user_preferences.php * [FIX] users prefs: Fix test for viewing other users [11:24] Bsfez The browser title page name changed for the tracker item title (good) but the page name at the top of the page still stay the real name [11:24] Bsfez http://addresssuccess.com/record-9-Marie%20Curie [11:24] Bsfez odd [11:25] jonnyb http://addresssuccess.com/record-9-Marie%20Curie looks like it works to me now [11:26] Bsfez at the top of the page, it shows "Record" or "Marie Curie) (check the first text not the ! below) [11:26] jonnyb oh, you mean the page title h1, not the browser title - it never did that one [11:26] Bsfez yes [11:27] jonnyb i would turn it off and put it in the template [11:27] Bsfez off doesn't work... [11:28] Bsfez I re re check properties -> Show page title off [11:28] Bsfez but it is still displayed... [11:28] jonnyb seems to work on 17 [11:28] Bsfez ok I tweak that if customer ask for it :) [11:29] jonnyb do you mean where it say "Record"? [11:29] Bsfez yes [11:29] jonnyb and it links to the tracker item - which is odd... [11:29] Bsfez yes ha ha ha [11:30] Bsfez so something was corrected on the way it is displayed between 15 and 17 [11:30] jonnyb how bizarre [11:30] Bsfez (I like this song :) ) [11:30] jonnyb must be a prefix alias thing i think [11:30] jonnyb just switch it off? (globally) [11:30] Bsfez Mmm [11:31] jonnyb by the way, on your mac does mysql keep failing? Mine does and it's quite annoying... [11:32] Bsfez no ok here (but I removed mac port after last episode :)) [11:32] Bsfez Is there an alias switch off globally ? [11:33] jonnyb apparently it'll be fixed in the next release which they're calling 8 instead of 5.8... but was wondering about trying mariadb [11:33] jonnyb yes, i always switch off page title in wiki admin [11:33] Bsfez (those issues sucks) [11:35] Bsfez turning it off solve this page problem, but then... It is off where I need it :) [11:35] Bsfez (I mean no title is displayed) [11:41] jonnyb does the per page thing work ok on a normal page? (it's ok in 17) cos it must be a prefix alias effect i think [11:42] Bsfez yes it work for regular page [11:45] jonnyb brb [12:07] jonnyb b [12:08] Bsfez jonnnnyyyyyy... We need a real random mode for the plugin list !!! [12:08] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [12:08] Bsfez :D [12:25] jonnyb looks like it's in elastic search... [12:26] jonnyb http://stackoverflow.com/a/20791296 Bsfez [12:29] jonnyb https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/2.4/query-dsl-function-score-query.html#function-random [12:29] Andrain joined #tikiwiki [12:29] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [12:29] amette__ polom [12:29] jonnyb pompom polom amette__ [12:29] Bsfez heeee.... this is too technical for me :D [12:30] Bsfez Hi Amette [12:30] amette__ heya jonnyb and Bsfez [12:30] jonnyb Bsfez: just saying it looks possible in elastic, but would need a bit of development time [12:33] Bsfez Mmm... It will be nice to have a solution for any engine. But ES is good for me... The "bit of development time" is the issue. [12:35] jonnyb might not be much actually - i'll try and take a look later [12:36] Bsfez You got all my support on this ! (and it is a community project => Consultants page) :D [12:36] jonnyb :P [12:36] Bsfez hi hi hi :D [12:45] Bsfez brb [13:17] Andrain joined #tikiwiki [13:18] amette__ left #tikiwiki [13:18] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [13:25] Andrain Hey there short question about the search function: I run a multilingual site and when I search using the search module it keeps highlighting not only the searched word but the languagecode as well. for example if I search for test and have the page set to English it also highlights "EN" in my search results. (Tiki Version 16.2, search query: /cms/tiki-searchindex.php?filter%7Econtent=portal&sort_mode=score_ndesc&filter%7Etype%5B%5D [13:28] Andrain Here is a screenshot for visualization: http://imgur.com/a/Gckqe [13:36] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r62499 10branches/17.x/lib/jquery_tiki/pluginedit_list.js * [FIX] list gui: Initialise fields array if empty [13:38] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [13:53] jonnyb hi Andrain - sorry, missed you [13:53] jonnyb r question (oops) [13:55] jonnyb i suppose that's a bug, or at least a "feature disappointment" - i guess we need to tweak the highlighter to ignore hits on language - sometimes it highlights 'y' or 'n' too which isn't very useful... [13:55] jonnyb do you code? :) [13:56] jonnyb need to feed now, but will be back later - meanwhile, welcome to Tiki! [14:43] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [14:43] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [14:52] Andrain Hello jonnyb thanks for the warm welcome, yeah I do some coding. But mostly on web stuff (JavaScript and some PHP). Would you recommend opening a Bug report for the search issue? [14:52] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [14:53] chibaguy polom [14:56] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [14:56] amette__ heya chibaguy [14:57] chibaguy hi amette__ [14:57] jonnyb re-hi all [15:00] Andrain Hello jonnyb thanks for the warm welcome, yeah I do some coding. But mostly on web stuff (JavaScript and some PHP). Would you recommend opening a Bug report for the search issue? [15:01] jonnyb hi Andrain - there might be an easy fix but i can't look at it now, so yes, file a bug report and i'll see what i can do [15:02] amette__ sorry, dev/doc down for a while [15:06] jonnyb thanks amette__ (hadn't noticed, it was ok this morning) [15:09] amette__ left #tikiwiki [15:09] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [15:14] amette__ ok, it's back [15:18] amette yeah, I was doing some bigger maintenance on the hypervisor, basically all ok [15:26] jonnyb thanks amette and amette__ [15:32] Bsfez Amette ? [15:35] RadoS joined #tikiwiki [15:46] amette__ heya Bsfez [15:56] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r62500 10branches/17.x/ 10themes/base_files/less/tiki-modules.less 10themes/base_files/css/tiki_base.css [15:56] Tiki-KGB [FIX] search: Improvement on r62454 - make compact mode search box input the same height as the button next to it for all themes (was wrong on https://next.tiki.org) [15:56] Tiki-KGB p.s. Not sure why a couple of [name="find"] were removed but that's how the less file is, chibaguy? [16:04] chibaguy hi jonnyb, I removed them because they seemed to be unnecessary. That is the state of the latest less file, yes. [16:04] jonnyb did i not svn up properly then? or did the css file not get committed? [16:10] JMJimmy joined #tikiwiki [16:13] nelsonko joined #tikiwiki [16:13] JMJimmy hey all, I'm looking around at wikis to do some fantasy world building but one thing I'm having trouble finding is one that does both mind maps and timelines - does tiki have these as plugins? [16:13] jonnyb Hi JMJimmy [16:14] jonnyb sort of, i think is the answer [16:14] JMJimmy sort of might work at this point ;) [16:14] jonnyb someone did integrate a 3rd party mind map of some sort, and we have simile timeline that just about still works, but is very old [16:15] jonnyb https://doc.tiki.org/MindMap [16:15] jonnyb and https://tiki.org/TikiFest+Timeline [16:16] jonnyb https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTrackerTimeline [16:16] JMJimmy awesome thanks I'll check them out [16:16] jonnyb but we also now (soon) have an intergration with h5p, that does everything! :) [16:17] jonnyb https://h5p.org/content-types-and-applications [16:17] JMJimmy it's actually really surprising there isn't a niche wiki for writers... seems a natural fit [16:18] jonnyb indeed, but neither are trivial to do well, so not an easy add-on [16:18] jonnyb also i think most existing mind map apps aren't compatible with tiki's license [16:19] JMJimmy ahh [16:26] Bsfez miaou [16:26] jonnyb woof [16:26] Bsfez Interesting idea about the calculation field [16:28] Bsfez "How about a maths calc field outputs a word if the item is new and you use that as a class on a div" [16:33] chibaguy jonnyb, sorry, was away. I'll check on the less files again. [16:33] jonnyb :) [16:34] Bsfez Chibaguy, I feedbacked the new group/permission interface. I you have questions... :) [16:34] chibaguy Ok, Bsfez, thanks. [16:38] chibaguy I see your feedback and will work on those issues. [16:46] kth_x97 joined #tikiwiki [16:55] Bsfez (y) [17:06] chibaguy_ joined #tikiwiki [17:31] Jyhem repolom [17:33] Jyhem anyone has experience into creating an offline version of a Tiki site and keeping it up to date? Tricky part (I'm told) being to keep track of wiki pages attachments [18:00] amette__ left #tikiwiki [18:04] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [18:08] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [18:11] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [18:11] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [18:17] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [18:34] torsten1 joined #tikiwiki [18:51] fabricius joined #tikiwiki [19:09] olinuxx joined #tikiwiki [19:23] JMJimmy jonnyb I spent some time investigating what you mentioned and H5P is... yikes. What isn't gimmicky is reinventing the wheel rather poorly. I'll likely still use tiki but develop my own tools if I can't find anything better [19:25] jonnyb sounds good JMJimmy - look forward to seeing what you develop, and answering a few questions along the way :) welcome to tiki! :) [19:26] jonnyb not sure what you mean about h5p reinventing the wheel poorly, i'm not aware of anything else like it, apart from flash which is unusable these days (surely) [19:27] jonnyb anyway, there's plenty of other stuff in tiki that may help, you should almost certainly look into Trackers and PluginList - in fact you can probably use them as a basis for a "native" tiki mind map... [19:28] JMJimmy some of the code uses jQuery while other parts duplicate's jQuery's functionality, timelines only does gregorian calendar, acordion menus that don't submenu easily (or at all?), that sort of thing [19:30] jonnyb fair enough points i guess - i think they're fairly open to suggestions and feedback... [19:41] fabricius hi JMJimmy: with Tiki it is quite easy to upstream enhancements or new features ... once they are made good nd maintainable. Our development culture is rather enhance features, add missing functionality and add new features when missing, than external extensions or plugins like other systems work. [19:41] fabricius polm everybody by the way [19:41] fabricius ahhhrgs [19:41] fabricius polom [19:42] fabricius my keybord and I ... PEBCAK [19:42] jonnyb pompom fabricius [19:42] fabricius wodwod jonnyb [19:42] JMJimmy good to know [19:43] * Bsfez pissed off because school literally force me to setup a windows machine for my 10 year old daughter :( [19:45] fabricius the Tiki community is different. Kind of an anarchic group of friends and family where everybody works together on one eye level, independant wether you are translator, documentator, coder, community manager ... a team where everybody can particiate the monthly round table meeting and live meet the guys at the frequent TikiFests at different plces in the world [19:46] fabricius Bsfez: set her up a Linux mashine with a VM or so for those apps which only run on Windows and they would not accept alternatives. [19:46] Bsfez if I could ! [19:46] amette__ left #tikiwiki [19:46] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [19:46] fabricius you cannot? [19:47] fabricius why a school insists on Windows? [19:47] Bsfez all education is done on win/word/excel (hebrew) [19:47] fabricius Sad [19:47] fabricius Why not LibreOffice or OpenOffice? [19:47] fabricius does the school pay the licences? [19:48] Bsfez If I install something else she will suffer... and they even didn't understand why I ask questions about giving internet access to a 10 y old girl. [19:48] fabricius if not sue them at court [19:48] fabricius younger kids should firt learn handwriting to near perfection and reading physical books [19:49] Bsfez I can do what I want... it won't change that they will learn the kid that way and I don't want my daughter to be aside [19:49] fabricius sure, I understand ... the masseffect [19:49] fabricius anyway this will make our societies dumber ... similar problems in Germany [19:49] Bsfez clearly... so I'm setting a win and closing access... so she can get only the school websote and wikipedia [19:50] fabricius (y) [19:52] amette__ left #tikiwiki [19:52] amette__ joined #tikiwiki [19:55] Telesight joined #tikiwiki [20:06] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [20:18] slyskawa joined #tikiwiki [20:25] patrickproulx joined #tikiwiki [20:47] patrickproulx joined #tikiwiki [21:34] patrickproulx joined #tikiwiki [21:41] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [22:18] JMJimmy is CSS the only way to get rid of the header? [22:29] patrickproulx joined #tikiwiki [22:30] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [22:46] Jyhem JMJimmy: which header? [22:47] JMJimmy the main header [22:47] JMJimmy I did what the doc said but that just generates a module error on every page [22:48] Jyhem The layout is mostly all in smarty templates. You can fork any of them in your chosen theme and edit them [22:48] Jyhem Or edit modules and make them invisible, that also works [23:25] Bsfez joined #tikiwiki [23:30] montefuscolo joined #tikiwiki