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[02:24] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Make all these mandatory_star stars consistent so users and theme creators can style them (completes r62695)
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[02:26] Tiki-KGB [FIX][bpr62695][bp/r62698] Make all these mandatory_star stars consistent so users and theme creators can style them
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[07:30] Bsfez polom ?
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[09:48] luciash polom
[09:49] Bsfez polom
[09:49] luciash shalom B
[09:49] Bsfez shalom L
[09:49] Bsfez dev doc and themes are down...
[10:03] luciash what can we do when sysadmins are unavailable?
[10:03] Bsfez ...
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[10:43] Bsfez ... ahhh
[10:44] Bsfez do you remember how to switch branch ? :D
[10:44] luciash Bsfez: yes, it is on the Google
[10:44] luciash :D
[10:44] Bsfez haaaaa
[10:45] Bsfez try it and tell me what you find
[10:45] Bsfez dev is down :D
[10:45] luciash svn switch path/to/branch I guess
[10:47] luciash Bsfez: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=svn+switch
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[10:48] luciash hei amette__ :)
[10:49] amette__ hey luciash
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[10:50] luciash amette__: miten menee?
[10:52] amette__ ihan ok
[10:52] amette__ ok, sites are back
[10:53] Bsfez ha ha ha :D
[10:53] Bsfez Hi Amette
[10:54] Bsfez (just as I figured it out : svn switch https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/branches/17.x
[10:57] amette__ hi Bsfez
[11:01] amette__ Bsfez : you need a period (".") at the end, I gues
[11:01] amette__ s
[11:02] amette__ That is, if you are in the webroot. What I mean is: "svn switch https://svn.code.sf.net/p/tikiwiki/code/branches/17.x webroot/"
[11:03] Bsfez haaa... not sure, I did a test on a dev server and it worked. So now the main tiki... we'll see :D
[11:03] amette__ I'd be very wary.It can go wrong without. It did with the next script, I had to adapt it.
[11:03] Bsfez it worked ok without the "."
[11:03] amette__ Speaking of which: next step, next sites.
[11:03] Bsfez but thanks :)
[11:04] amette__ It won't always. Wait for conflicts or such.
[11:04] Bsfez yes yes yes !
[11:06] Bsfez next servers ?
[11:06] amette__ there is only one next server
[11:06] Bsfez ok
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[11:10] Bsfez so you wanted to talk about the next server (cause we need it)
[11:10] jonnyb morning all
[11:10] Bsfez Hi Jonny
[11:10] luciash morning jonnyb
[11:10] luciash amette__: what was the culprit? (for the sites down)
[11:10] * jonnyb waves
[11:10] amette__ hi jonnyb
[11:11] amette__ luciash : innodb buffer pool size grew bigger than RAM. I'm a bit surprised that it could happen after such a long time, but apparently there is still some fine more tuning needed.
[11:12] luciash ah, indeed
[11:14] amette__ Bsfez : no, didn't want to talk about them, just fix them
[11:14] luciash :D
[11:15] jonnyb amette__: sorry i didn't get back to you yesterday, meetings ran into each other all afternoon... then i had to lie down! ;)
[11:15] amette__ jonnyb : no worries, all good
[11:15] Bsfez oh thanks Amette for taking care of next !
[11:16] Bsfez I still got a lot of error with setup.sh and composer
[11:17] Bsfez (on 17x)
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[11:44] Bsfez that's funny... after updating a 16 -> 17 the tiki says it is logged in... as "Anonymous" :D
[11:46] jonnyb that's odd Bsfez
[11:46] jonnyb even after clearing all the caches etc?
[11:47] Bsfez yes the first load after setup.sh + d:u + i:r + c:c --all
[11:47] Bsfez I logged out but I never saw that before :)
[11:48] jonnyb most weird
[11:49] Bsfez creepy ! (and I don't have a user named "Anonymous")
[11:51] jonnyb was this showing in the login module?
[11:52] Bsfez the login popup at the top
[11:55] Jyhem you don't need the --all any more
[11:56] Bsfez Hi Jyhem yes I'm still using "old" command (I saw discussion about improvement)... details /
[11:56] Bsfez ?
[11:58] jonnyb update time, brb
[12:07] amette__ ok, will have to run a quick errand, max. 1h, bbl
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[12:25] jonnyb back (that was a biggie!)
[12:34] luciash big update?
[12:34] amette__ re, too
[12:35] jonnyb yup, minor OS update took 30 minutes!  :O
[12:35] amette__ That's windoze territory.
[12:37] jonnyb :P
[12:38] amette__ ;)
[12:38] luciash :)
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[12:55] jonnyb off out for a while, bbl
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[15:57] amette_ ok, I think I found all bugs and nextdev should be back online in half an hour or so.
[15:58] amette_ I'll be away for a bit while the refresh runs. bbl
[16:06] jonnyb hi hi, was just about to check in and see how you're doing amette_ - good news! :)
[16:06] jonnyb (hopefully)
[16:28] luciash coolio
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[17:16] Tiki-KGB [ENH] ItemsList ability to list items based on ItemLink/DynamicItemList based in the same tracker
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[17:31] amette_ are the star names documented anywhere?
[17:31] amette_ they aren't even mentioned on the doc pages correlating to versions. I thought somewhere they were mentioned.
[17:36] amette_ and btw: yes, nextdev really works :)
[17:36] amette_ next-doc/themes next
[17:41] luciash amette_: great! yeah, we have them somewhere...
[17:42] luciash amette_: mainly they are here > https://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/
[17:44] luciash amette_: also https://tiki.org/All+Releases
[17:45] amette_ luciash : Awesome!! Thanks! :)
[17:46] luciash amette_: I see some are missing ;)
[17:47] amette_ I found the svn, too... but that's not presentable to a normal user.
[17:47] amette_ luciash : right, looks like more people than just us forgot about that page. ;)
[17:47] luciash *g*
[17:48] luciash who are you going to present it to?
[17:48] luciash (just curious)
[17:49] amette_ Right now I just came up with it in discussion with a friend, because he sent me a link that Tabby's Star is acting up again in recent days. So I was like "Oh, yeah, did you know that Tiki 16 was named after that star!?" and then looked dumb cause I couldn't prove it... :P
[17:50] amette_ ... but having experienced that: it's gonna be handy to know this URL in the next client meeting in which we come to talk about the star names.
[17:57] luciash yeah. would be nice if you join us! :)
[17:57] luciash last time we were just 6 admins there :-p
[17:58] luciash ah, client meeting, sorry, I thought TRM
[17:59] luciash Tiki Roundtable Meeting
[17:59] amette_ Ah, right, yes, I need to try and make the TRM a habit...
[17:59] luciash +1! :)
[17:59] amette_ :)
[18:00] luciash have you seen the recording (or a part of it?)?
[18:00] luciash ;)
[18:00] amette_ no, I haven't... are there good topics in it?
[18:01] luciash heheh, they are listed on https://tiki.org/Roundtable+Meeting+2017+05
[18:02] amette_ Right... I was trying to find that right now...
[18:02] luciash you decide if they are good for you ;)
[18:02] jonnyb hey woo, https://nextdev.tiki.org/Development is back (but still on trunk sadly)
[18:02] jonnyb https://nextdoc.tiki.org still being refreshed...
[18:02] amette_ ... there seem to be issues with the search there... favouring the devel-list !?
[18:03] amette_ see https://tiki.org/tiki-searchindex.php?filter~content=round+table+meeting
[18:03] luciash hey
[18:03] jonnyb all the starts are here, btw https://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php
[18:03] amette_ I had the same problem when searching for the star names... I had lots and lots of mailing list posts instead of wiki pages.
[18:04] amette_ Ok, that's the coder's answer! :)
[18:04] jonnyb you can use the facet result pickers on teh right hand side to select wiki pages only
[18:04] luciash hmm, when I filter by wiki page, only two results?
[18:04] luciash object
[18:05] amette_ luciash : Need to put "roundtable" in one word. :(
[18:05] jonnyb brb
[18:05] luciash ah, roundtable must be together
[18:05] amette_ yep
[18:05] luciash m-conn :)
[18:05] amette_ and then it doesn't matter to filter or not
[18:05] luciash https://tiki.org/tiki-searchindex.php?filter%7Econtent=roundtable+meeting&filter%7Eobject_type=%22wiki+page%22&filter%7Elanguage=&filter%7Edeep_categories=&filter%7Ecategories=&filter%7Etitle_initial=&filter%7Etitle_firstword=
[18:05] amette_ yep, yep ;)
[18:06] amette_ sooo... is that a bug report at Elastic.co or at dev.tiki.org !?
[18:10] amette_ Another thing, I just noticed... why do we offer "Stay in SSL mode" on dev.tiki.org? Why don't we just do it by default? I don't think we should have any performance issues by doing SSL all the time.
[18:11] jonnyb +1 for ssl always
[18:11] amette_ apropos performance - am I imagining or is dev.tiki.org leaps and bounds faster than before?
[18:11] jonnyb maybe we need to add freetags on those pages with round and table separately
[18:12] amette_ jonnyb : ok, cool. I'll try and conf that on dev
[18:12] luciash +1 for ssl no matter what
[18:12] amette_ jonnyb : I would have imagined that elasticsearch would be smart enough to find that in one word evem though we enter it with the idiot's space in betwen
[18:12] amette_ luciash : cool! :)
[18:13] luciash can be set up in tiki admin only afaik
[18:13] jonnyb or maybe we should use two separate words as "roundtable" isn't actually an English word? ;)
[18:13] luciash round-table maybe
[18:13] amette_ Hoooo-ly shit! luciash and I wrote it right.
[18:14] luciash we invent Tiki words ;)
[18:14] jonnyb :D
[18:14] amette_ hrhr ;)
[18:15] luciash it is allowed ;) http://www.dictionary.com/browse/roundtable
[18:15] amette_ still I thought elastic would be that smart or what is all that lucene stuff about being smart about people typing and things!? or am I imagining again?
[18:16] amette_ hehe
[18:16] luciash http://www.thefreedictionary.com/roundtable
[18:16] luciash amette_: yeah, I would have thought so too
[18:18] luciash amette_: apropos performance, if it is fast we do not notice, we notice only when it is sloooow ;)
[18:18] amette_ luciash : yeah, I know :-/
[18:19] luciash amette_: but I do not find it super fast (thanks to piwik)
[18:19] amette_ I'm running all of MySQL in RAM and everything comes from SSD. Especially the first part works wonders, as far as I can tell.
[18:19] luciash (not logged in)
[18:20] luciash SSD is cool!
[18:20] amette_ piwik slows it down?
[18:20] amette_ MySQL in RAM is muuuch cooler, believe me!
[18:20] luciash initial load of the site it seems to me
[18:20] amette_ Well, ok, I can live with the initial load (that SSD must be the limiting factor there ;) ).
[18:20] amette_ Or do you mean initial load of piwik.tiki.org ?
[18:20] luciash as far as it does not crash I believe you ! ;)
[18:21] luciash i mean load of dev.tiki.org
[18:21] amette_ yeah, I'm willing to put more RAM to it, don't worry.
[18:21] amette_ ok, yep, initial loading can take a while for dozens of reasons... mainly because we have dozens of assets to load, that your browser needs to check, if they were modified
[18:30] amette_ Ok, I think now the SSL always thingy works... I couldn't set session_protected to 'y' or it would end in a redirect loop, but looks, like I'm not in HTTPs always. Let's see how this works out.
[18:31] amette_ And regarding performance: click on a tracker item, try go making a tea, you won't get up from your seat before it has loaded.
[18:31] amette_ Listing all tracker items is the most painful thing and it's still bearable.
[18:34] Tiki-KGB 03jonnybradley r62705 10branches/17.x/templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl
[18:34] Tiki-KGB [FIX] groups: Prevent the footer modules appearing directly under the "add to" / "ban from" group panel and covering up the member checkboxes etc (curious layout, not re-indented, TODO in trunk later... maybe)
[18:34] amette_ s/like I'm not/like I'm/
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[18:53] luciash amette_: :)
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[19:37] quirkymcardle Hi, group. New to TW and could use some advice about site navigation.  Can anybody advise if it's possible to use the TOC for a structure as navigation for the wiki so that users see that on my home page?
[19:37] quirkymcardle thanks in advance for any insight.
[19:42] quirkymcardle I am thinking that what I need to do is make a menu module that refers to the structure TOC. If that's possible.
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[19:56] jonnyb hi quirkymcardle, welcome to Tiki! :)
[19:57] jonnyb short answer, yes - stick a menu module where you want it (often in the toppbar zone) and set the structure id in the module properties
[19:58] jonnyb probably more info on here: https://doc.tiki.org/Structure+User (i have to go now, see you next time!)
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[22:38] Tiki-KGB [REF] Stop assigning Smarty variable $id_fields
[22:38] Tiki-KGB No idea what this did, but no occurence of "id_fields" in any template
[22:38] Tiki-KGB Remove presumably related comment "dynamic list process"
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[22:52] Tiki-KGB [REF] Stop defining $fid and $ins_id
[22:52] Tiki-KGB Apparently unused
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