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luis_asa: I think the majority voted for spaces, but I am not sure. You should ask the coders.
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luis_asaok, will do. for now I'm trying to preserve the immediate environment around the code I'm doing while avoiding reconfiguring too much my editor :-) [00:20]
fabricius;-) [00:20]
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Jyhemluis_asa: In Tiki it's TABS !
I wonder where you found spaces?
Anyway, the worst is mixing both :-(
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Topicfor #tikiwikiis now Tiki - the one and only Free / Libre / Open Source Software wiki-based CMS with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki 17.1 is out! For LTS get 15.5 or 12.12. Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude your message from the log) [02:56]
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luciashfabricius: hi, it's tabs :)
fabricius: https://dev.tiki.org/DevTips#PHP_coding_habits
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luciashbolow
chibaguy: hi :) I agree that the offcanvas menus should wait for the BS4 revamp
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chibaguyhi luciash. yeah, that makes sense, I think. [13:50]
luciashyep [13:50]
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fabriciusHi luciash and chibaguy: I agree aswell. Just was to write a new email with quoted email from the other thread to seperate issues and a wish on dev.t.o.
Or uciash and chibaguy: should I better create a devpage on dev.t.o ?
uciash -> luciash
sry
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chibaguyhi fabricius, I suppose a wish and a dev page both would be good. [14:15]
fabriciusok chibaguy [14:15]
luciashyup [14:16]
fabriciusluciash and chibaguy: But you both like the idea of a standard implemented left & right off canvas sidebar? I'd prefer including a module zone for each from start.
is the roundtable today or next week?
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luciashi do not have preference how to implement
fabricius: yes
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chibaguyI'm not sure. I think it would be useful to (as an option) implement offcanvas for #col2 and #col3 also. [14:18]
fabriciusyes I like or yes Roundtable today or yes Roundtable next week luciash?
:D
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chibaguy(so people don't have to bother with more module zones.)
but I guess if a site is already using #col2 and/or #col3 on-screen, and still want an offcanvas module zone, then that would have to be added.
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luciashyes next week fabricius [14:20]
fabriciusthx luciash
I did implement the off canvas sidebar on a website which I am just upgrading. And I like that I have the opportunity to have a static #col2 #col3 on wide screen which then disappears on narrower screens replaced by off canvas
same I do with the topbar main navigation
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luciashURL? [14:23]
fabriciusso topbar menu goes at the top of the off-canvas (right) and #col3 below in the same off canvas [14:23]
chibaguyIt would be good if the custom module zone idea that jonny worked out could be used, so .tpls don't need to be modified. [14:24]
fabriciusthe problem is chibaguy, that when I use the custom module zone, I have to introduce it in the template {modulezone=zonename} in the div where I want to have it.
in my case it works with two simple divs in the layout_view.tpl including one module zone in each of both
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chibaguyWell, it could be put in a module and then moved in the DOM with jquery. [14:27]
luciashfabricius: why? you can put it in custom module [14:27]
fabriciusluciash: http://next.twohomes.org/ ... not finished, just at the state of proof of concept or technical base. I still have to move contents (modules/menus) around and do some CSS [14:28]
luciashfabricius: you can place smarty syntax in textareas like shadow layers etc.
too
thanks!
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fabriciusUX is not yet as I want, but narrowing the screen shows a cog top left and three bars top right. the modules inside are added in the custom module zones [14:29]
luciashwill check it out! [14:29]
fabricius=> ou can place smarty syntax in textareas like shadow layers etc.
Then I would be limited to the classic template
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chibaguynice site :) [14:31]
fabriciusI'd like a general solution, but the option to make #col2 and #col3 offcanvas would be interesting aswell
thx chibaguy. I find the fonts - headings - a bit heavily built and want to make them a bit smaller.
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chibaguyhttps://www.elated.com/articles/jquery-removing-replacing-moving-elements/ [14:33]
fabriciusby the way: how I get doubleclick.net, googleads.g.doubleclick.net, static.doubleclick.net on this side whilst I never installed that by my self? some automatic magc from google fonts? [14:34]
luciashmaybe [14:34]
chibaguyI don't think google fonts should add anything else to your site. [14:35]
luciashor some browser add-on/extension if you have it [14:35]
chibaguyat least I've never seen that. [14:35]
fabriciusuBlock and uMatrix [14:35]
luciashcan be [14:35]
fabriciusbut they are for blocking, not for adding ads [14:36]
luciashheheh
nice demo of the offcanvas at your site fabricius
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fabriciusthx
and only few lines of code
apart from the initial two divs / module zones only few lines each in custom css and custom js
or custom header
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chibaguyWith a method from that elated.com URL, I got an effect like this: https://isoc.nl/ . (This is a WP site by somebody else but I worked out a Tiki equivalent.) The page-top image is in the page's wikitext in my version.
I don't have the theme or docs or demo ready yet but will later.
(the jquery script moves the image from wikitext to just inside #header_outer.)
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fabriciusvery nice. possibly an idea for our conference site (https://conference.twohomes.org) anyway a bt different issue than off canvas sidebar. Thank you for mentioning anyway chibaguy. Should be in Tiki somehow. [14:45]
chibaguyProbably as a profile. [14:45]
fabriciusgood idea! [14:45]
chibaguyOr just documentation. [14:46]
fabriciusif that works out - cool.
also good. especially if the implementation does not need too much time
profile maybe better, but more one-off work
By the way luciash and chibaguy: would you today recommend the use of .SVG logos over .PNG or still stay with .PNG due to browser compaibility or other resons?
s/compaibility/compatibility
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chibaguyI guess .png is fine.
For one small image, I don't know if .svg has an advantage.
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luciashsvg is fine but cannot be shared on social media websites so you still need png/jpg alternative anyway - but maybe for logo is good (if you do not need to display it on old obscure browsers or something) [15:00]
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hello luciash. I got disconnected. Hopefully I did not miss parts of your answer.
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luciashfabricius: irc.tiki.org [15:34]
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Jyhempop
Do we have a limit on autocomplete on trackers which have a lot of items?
It looks like some answers are missing, and they seem to be on the upper letters of the alphabet
Meaning on putting this in a trackerfilter page: {JQ()}$('input[name="f_(164:165)"]').tiki("autocomplete", "trackervalue", {trackerId:10,fieldId:"164:165"}){JQ}
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luciashthere was limit on autocomplete for usernames iirc somewhere settable
dunno about other fields
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JyhemHmmm, right now they just told me to remove autocomplete for now, "as it's unreliable". Maybe there'll be budget later :-/
Jyhem feels this limit should be settable per field in the autocomplete syntax, like tiki("autocomplete", "trackervalue", {trackerId:10,fieldId:"164:165"},limit)
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luciashyep, that could be helpful [18:26]
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Jyhemlogin on https://demo.tiki.org/trunk seems broken :-( anyone has time for investigating? [18:51]
luciashJyhem: sorry, I don't. it is just a demo which will be refreshed anyway... could be daily rather than weekly imho
bbl
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JyhemTrue. demo is agreat tool, but maybe not for the general public? [19:04]
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Jyhem, luciash: agree. demo is agreat tool, but why not for the general public? I think demo is especially for general public. [21:29]
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