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[00:50] guest1234 Hey everyone Looking at using this as a platform for an internal wiki was wondering about the support model can anyone give me any experience they have had?
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[13:38] chibaguy polom
[13:40] jonnyb hi chibaguy - how's it going? all settled in the new house?
[13:42] chibaguy hi jonnyb. Funny you should ask - just came back from a day of bundling up old magazines and so on, trying to remove the last of our things from the old house. :-)
[13:42] chibaguy I think we'll still be at it until the end of the month.
[13:42] chibaguy (Not enough time per day.)
[13:45] jonnyb Well done, you'll get there in the end
[13:46] chibaguy Yep, I believe so.
[13:46] jonnyb I moved all my sites to a new sever over xmas and there's still one (tiki 3) site i can't get to work on new php etc :(  just not enough hours etc...
[13:47] chibaguy I see.
[13:49] chibaguy I wonder if amette has had a chance to check why doc.t.o is acting strange (time out error on page saves, can't upload files).
[13:51] chibaguy "File upload failed: Gateway Time-out"
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[16:22] computron Heyll eveyone, i am about to install tiki, and was wondering if anyone was around?
[16:35] fabricius hello computron
[16:36] fabricius any problems? how we can help?
[16:47] fabricius computron?
[16:50] computron hey
[16:50] computron sorry was afk
[16:51] computron I have not started the install yet im still bringing the linux build online for the install.
[16:52] computron I was just wondering if there was anything i needed to lookout for,
[17:01] fabricius hmmm
[17:01] fabricius downloaded branch or svn?
[17:01] fabricius I strongly recommend svn
[17:01] computron It will be on gentoo
[17:02] fabricius gentoo can svn aswell
[17:02] computron ahh
[17:02] fabricius need to install svn on your linux
[17:02] fabricius => much much easier and faster installation and upgrades
[17:03] computron ok will that come up as a pre-req when doing emerege?
[17:03] fabricius https://dev.tiki.org/Get-code
[17:03] fabricius what is emerege?
[17:04] computron emerge, is the lifesaving installation way to a gentoo install
[17:04] computron it looks like it is supported from the docs
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[17:04] fabricius most providers have svn, but as you install your server from scratch, svn would be a prerequisite if you want to use it
[17:05] fabricius do you know svn?
[17:05] computron I do not
[17:05] computron I know what it is
[17:05] computron have never used it
[17:05] fabricius it is a version control system similar to git
[17:06] fabricius you need only the code snippets from the above wiki page(s) copy paste
[17:06] computron so is that recomended over using portage?
[17:07] fabricius I do not know portage
[17:07] computron gentoo, linux uses portage, its simillar to the distro system in red hat
[17:07] fabricius tiki uses svn as version control system, thus you can install Tikis via svn
[17:08] fabricius the gentoo installation level should not affect the php software level
[17:09] fabricius you need to install apache and mysql and php and svn on your gentoo and above that you install Wordpress, Tiki etcetera
[17:09] computron so normally with gentoo, I can install a package that is in portage, which it looks like tiki is, by simply doing "emerge tikiwiki" it will locate all the pre-requisits, and install
[17:09] fabricius so imho portage and emerege have nothing to do with your Tiki, neither affect it
[17:10] computron so I am looking at the gentoo install in the manual
[17:10] fabricius I do not know, wether gentoo has integrated Tiki in it's packages
[17:10] computron https://doc.tiki.org/Install-on-Gentoo
[17:10] fabricius first Time I hear such thing
[17:11] computron it looks like it has... but the update is old
[17:11] fabricius ahh .. nice one ... I am more on debian based yorks
[17:11] fabricius never stopping to learn
[17:11] computron I have always used gentoo, i have gotten so spoied by it.
[17:13] computron so, i am looking at building basically a data repository, and it looks like tiki can do everything i need it to do, is there a way to build pages that are forms?
[17:19] fabricius you can easily create forms by using the feature Trackers ... then put a tiny wikiplugin with few or many parameters on a wiki page and you have "built a page that is a form" ... you can still add other stuff to the form or leave the form as is
[17:19] fabricius Sometimes i use Tabs
[17:20] fabricius one tab contains the form
[17:20] fabricius the other tab contains the output, ex table or custom search form
[17:20] fabricius start small and extend continuously
[17:22] computron so my goal, is to move a bunch of data from multiple clients, to a clean system, so i am hoping i can build a template, and then duplicate that template and then load it with client data.
[17:23] fabricius use trackers to collect the data and wiki pages to display the tracker result
[17:23] fabricius I have to go out of the house - coming back later
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[19:46] fabricius polom
[19:46] fabricius rehi compafk
[19:47] jonnyb pompomn fabricius
[19:47] fabricius hi jonny big wolod
[19:47] fabricius jonnyb:
[19:48] fabricius jonnyb wolodolow
[19:48] fabricius b
[19:48] fabricius args
[19:48] jonnyb :)
[19:48] fabricius how things are going?
[19:48] jonnyb you ok?
[19:48] fabricius sick
[19:48] fabricius big time
[19:48] jonnyb i'm fine, just off out
[19:49] jonnyb ew, sorry to hear
[19:49] fabricius ah nice
[19:49] fabricius yeah me to. bed and medication
[19:49] jonnyb get well soon! :)
[19:49] fabricius thx
[19:49] fabricius after next weekend likely
[19:49] fabricius good for my npos
[19:50] fabricius sitting in bed all day and ticking tasks
[19:50] fabricius mainly administration and websdev, but also board stuff - very prodcuctive for the npos when sick at home
[19:51] fabricius oh and bad typing
[19:52] fabricius ahh jonnyb: listen what happened: my cool i7 16 gb tuxedo laptop finally broke apart completely ... never ever again by a non-ThinkPad or Apple
[19:52] fabricius or non-Apple I mean
[19:53] jonnyb sad to hear, they don't last for ever (or in fact... long enough)
[19:53] fabricius I was travelling and quite outraged and out of ideas how to get back up and running for a number of projects relying on me and my data
[19:53] fabricius BUT
[19:54] computron i have to say i love my dell hardware...
[19:54] fabricius just for whatsoever I took my old SL 300 centrino ThinkPad and swapped the ssd harddisks and started the ThinkPad
[19:54] fabricius guess what happened jonnyb
[19:55] fabricius it just works as if I had installed and worked on it since ever
[19:55] jonnyb sorry, another time fabricius - have to go out now (well, in 3 minutes and have an email to send first
[19:55] fabricius nothing to reinstall
[19:55] fabricius just started worked
[19:56] fabricius no prob - story ends here happily anyway
[19:56] fabricius have a nice evening
[19:56] fabricius bubu jonnyb
[19:56] jonnyb good good, more tomorrow! :)
[19:56] fabricius computron: on your side all working well?
[19:56] fabricius installation wise on track?
[19:57] computron I just brought the OS online
[19:57] computron so just about to see how it goes
[19:57] fabricius ok
[19:58] computron well it seams the install docs are wrong...
[19:58] fabricius by the way, when you install the Tiki, put the tikiroot in an extra folder as a container and a files folder besides it:
[20:00] fabricius myproject/tiki
[20:00] fabricius myproject/files
[20:00] fabricius then the domain to myproject/tiki
[20:00] fabricius and never a domain pointing to any folder above myproject, but for example to any myotherproject/bla/bla
[20:00] fabricius the domain issue is not so important locally, but on a public server
[20:00] fabricius just
[20:00] fabricius saying
[20:02] computron well this is upsetting...
[20:05] computron fabriciusdo you know if any of the installation instructions are accurate for any of the os systems listed in the guid?
[20:59] computron fabricius i am going to work this on a debian install instead of gentoo, it seems a little less complicated and easier to restore if i need to in the future.
[21:16] computron is anyone around?
[21:23] fabricius polom
[21:23] fabricius on the phone
[21:24] computron ok, when you get a minute, im trying to follow the guide here but it seems extreemly old.
[21:24] fabricius ok
[22:15] computron hey fabricius you available?
[22:27] fabricius hey computron still on the phone
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[23:18] fabricius hello computron
[23:18] fabricius unphoned now
[23:19] fabricius how things are going on your side computron?
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