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luciash: polom pom, pom pom
mose: hey hey luci
luciash: heya mose! how are you? :)
mose: not younger, that's for sure hahaha
luciash: :D
i just woke up from dead - was lying in bed since last thursday with flu :-p
mose: oh, I just woke up from dead too, I slept during 10 years not using tiki much
luciash: lol, yeah, I noticed you are poloming back since last week or too - just checking here from nostalgia? or do you plan to re-joice again? :)
mose: well
luciash: s/or too/or two/
mose: I'm in charge of a tiki for an active community
at some point, I may have to contribute again in small proportion
luciash: coolio
mose: but I lost my svn access
luciash: oh, how come? :-o
mose: my sf account is not in members anymore
somehow
no idea why
luciash: strange
I can re-add you for sure
mose: that can be cool, in case of
I checked the list, there is a lot of old accounts in there
many inactive people are making it like a ghost town hahaha
luciash: *g*
mose: maybe I had myself removed on my own choice, that would be something I'm able to do
luciash: yeah, maybe, that would explain it
i do not recall any discussion about removing you
mose: that's old
there is no fun investigating it :)
luciash: and no biggie I would say... you can be back in a minute
mose: btw I don't know if you heard, I work at bitnami now
I'm surrounded by docker images and clouds
luciash: oh, nope, cool! :)
mose: tiki runs fine in docker for dev that's convenient
luciash: do they have a hq in taiwan?
mose: no they are in Seville, spain
I'm a remote work-at-home type of guy
no pants required
luciash: :)
great that they offer that - most companies wants you to sit in a cubicle or slide their slides
mose: well, there is a shortage of skilled senior people, so more and more companies have to cope with remote setup
I tried some local jobs here where I live in Taiwan
but thos asian love their cublicle too much
luciash: mose: added you back to developers on sf.net
mose: oh cool thanks
should we not do some kind of small ceremonial?
luciash: lol :D
mose: you know I love those hahaha
luciash: Do you still agree to the 3Rules? ;)
mose: hmm, what are they?
hahaha
-: luciash puts his ceremony hat on
mose: woohoooo
-: mose puts his noob pants on
luciash: mose: I suppose they did not change throughout the years you were absent ;)
mose: the benefit of very simple words
luciash: https://dev.tiki.org/3-Rules
btw sf.net was playing with our nerves last week or so :( (lot of downtimes)
mose: yeah I saw that
I also heard the debate to move to git is still live
luciash: so we could not "commit early, commit often" :-p
yup yup
mose: oh there is still a quote of me in the verbose mode
a caution about caution, sounds like something I would say
luciash: jonny seems fed up with sf.net already too - and he was the last one a year ago who was not keen to move much to Git yet
we will see how it evolves/unfolds
heheh
interestingly, for all the developers on sf.net it says they have only "Read" permission - but that must be some misinformation I guess - it surely works for Write access too
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luciash: so anyway, welcome back mose! at least here on the good old (still alive) irc! :)
mose: yeah that's crazy, you guys are like frozen in time
now people they are on github and use slack
-: luciash considers it a bit ridiculous and puts his ceremony hat off again ;)
mose: hahaha
well, I am on various slack groups, but my irc is still open
luciash: I tried slack but never found it very useful - so I have it, but do not use it at all
mose: when you don't use tools like znc or have irc in a screen session, slack makes possible to just see what you missed when you get back on it
that's the main point
luciash: yeah, that makes sense, but I have screen and irssi for that... and I presume Slack does not run from cli
mose: no it doesnt
you can use gateways but that's not the point
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polom
jonnyb: pompom chibaguy
so do we have some new tikis to tewst somewhere? sorry, i was away yesterday...
chibaguy: uh, yeah, I believe so.
12.13, 15.6, 17.2, 18.1
jonnyb: hmm, out of time again, will try and test after the next meeting...
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Hi all
jonnyb: ok, seems there are no new files on sf.net so i guess they're not quite released...
hi Arunrf
Arunrf: Getting very frustrated with toolbars in the editor.... what I sent in Admin Toolbars just isnt what appears
trying to get a basic spellchecker icon there but just wont appear
cant find a decent guide on setting up the toolbars
any pointers?
jonnyb: sorry Arunrf - not that i know of
you probably are setting the toolbars for one section and looking for it in another? maybe?
Arunrf: when an icon is shown on a menu in Admin toolbars whoulsnt it then just show in the editor
jonnyb: sorry, have to go...
Arunrf: ok no worries
jonnyb: ah, there are differences in the icon for wiki and wysiwyg editors
Arunrf: yes...im using WYSIWYG
mose: and if you have html enabled or not
Arunrf: but what I have set up in admin toolbars is different from what I see in the editor
mose: there are different toolbars in both cases
Arunrf: many icons missing
mose: do you have htl enabled?
html
Arunrf: just chckinh
checkinh
mose: on top you have 2 wysiwyg options, html mode or wiki mode
Arunrf: where is that set?
got it....i have WIKI and WYSIWYG set
in view mode
If i change section Wiki Pages to WYSIWYG HTML mode it makes no difference
Section Global is already in WYSIWYG HTML mode
I see there is no Spellcheck plugin in the plugin list..... has that been deprecated and the reason why it doesnt appear on the too9lbars
Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item6590-Structure-does-not-save-changes-on-15-5
luciash: Arunrf: probably so :-/ iirc the spellchecker was removed in favor of bro's builtin spellcheckers
s/bro/browser/
:D
Arunrf: where do i find that luciash
and how do i enable it in tiki?
I tried the browser spellcheckers but they dont seem to check within the editor dialogue box
luciash: Arunrf: ah, really? ah, maybe because it is wysiwyg and not a normal textarea... i see :(
Arunrf: you mean a wiki text area?
luciash: yep
Arunrf: That seems very limiting so thats why I have added wysiwyg
sees like a basic function to have in a wiki!
luciash: I would suggest try looking for your browser add-on/extension which would do spellchecking in wysiwyg - maybe there is something for the CKEditor (which is wysiwyg editor Tiki is using)
spellchecker is never basic function
imo
Arunrf: i mean a basic function to have in a text editor or word proecssing package
Jyhem: polom
hi mose, welcome back ! :-)
mose: hey Jyhem
luciash: Arunrf: I suppose you have read this page: https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Spellcheck&redirectpage=SpellChecker
Arunrf: Thanks i saw that, it says This feature is no longer supported or relevant because browsers now have spellchecking, and that's where it should be handled. You can add grammar checking to Firefox with http://www.afterthedeadline.com/
but Browser spellchecking doesnt work
ive just testes with Firefox and Chrome
Jyhem: Still in Taiwan ? We set up a nice event in Strasbourg in july https://2018.rmll.info/
(soon translated in english, I'm told)
mose: yeah that's 10 years this month I live there
Jyhem: Ohh, celebration?
mose: I never been big adept of time-cycle based celebrations
that's actually 3652 days
Jyhem: ok, still impressing
mose: I'm asian now, my eyes begin to become smaller, my nose reduces
luciash: :D
mose: nah that's a myth, I'm still having a huge nose
locals call us dabizeu
Jyhem: does it mean "big nose" ?
mose: precisely
Jyhem: Better than ghosts, I suppose?
mose: the ghost name if given in Hong-Kong only
luciash: Arunrf: all I can suggest now is you click the "Source" button in the toolbar and there the browser spellchecking will work...
Jyhem: Ahhh. Migt have happened to Marc, then
mose: the most common name is laowai though
Jyhem: Arunrf: spellchecking depends on language, so it's not really easy to provide at the editor level for open-source editors which are used all over the world. Whereas the browser is installed locally on a computer which might know which is your preferred languages
mose: means old-foreigner (in a respectful way of the old word)
Arunrf: yes, and I have the laguages installed in the browsers, but they dont seem to work within the Wiki editor windows
luciash: Arunrf: you said Wysiwyg before
Arunrf: Oddly i am changing the settings betweeen Wiki only and wysiwyg HTML and WIKI/Wysiwyg for glocal, admin and wiki and the toolbars dont seem to change
-: Jyhem needs to get food. see you guys later
luciash: Arunrf: it works for me with other icons than spellcheck
Arunrf: do you mean your browser spell checker works when in wiki mode only ( ie not wysiwyg )?
luciash: yes
i mean that too
Arunrf: lol
what did you mean before - that swiucthing between modes changes the toolbars?
luciash: but i meant that if i drag and drop an icon to the toolbar in the toolbars admin and then clcik save button it works for me
i can see the added icon in my toolbars then
for example the bgcolor one
Arunrf: i changes everything to wiki mode and saves and nothing changed- i logged out and in adain as admin and the change to wiki had not saved
odd
luciash: i test this on tiki trunk, what version do you have?
Arunrf: I think its 18 but where do I check
luciash: Settings > Control Panels > General
Arunrf: NO its 17.1
luciash: I am pretty sure it saves toolbars in 17.x as well
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luciash: yup, it works
Arunrf: I'll try a few more tests later thanks for your help
byw
luciash: https://demo.luciash.eu/tiki17x/Wysiwyg%2BTest
Arunrf: whats the different between Global and Wiki pages sections in toolbars - if Wiki Page is different to Global whioch takes priority
luciash: wiki page is in wiki pages only, global is all editable textareas
Arunrf: and when I change the view mode to something different that aplies to all sections not just the section displayed - is that correct
So Wiki pages will always only show the Wiki toolbar even if global is different
luciash: if you modified wiki tollbars then I guess that one will show instead of global
try dragging the bgcolor icon and save
that test worked for me
it shows in both, wysiwyg and wiki toolbars view mode too
Arunrf: please also read https://docs.ckeditor.com/ckeditor4/latest/guide/dev_spellcheck.html
Arunrf: great thanks I'll go through that
How do I add CKeditor plugins?
luciash: Arunrf: that is out of my scope, sorry
Arunrf: no probs i'll research, thanks for the link
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hi there. we need for a political organization to setup a forum synchronized with existing mailing lists. Like described on https://doc.tiki.org/Forum-and-Mailing-List-Synchronization
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Tiki|bot: Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item6591-WYSIWYG-editing-a-WYSIWYG-plugin-call-adds-a-trailing
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