[00:03] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [00:09] benoitg joined #tikiwiki [00:57] zlinux joined #tikiwiki [01:07] luis_asa joined #tikiwiki [08:44] redflo joined #tikiwiki [10:20] panamaus joined #tikiwiki [10:31] luciash polom pom, pom pom [10:37] mose hey hey luci [10:40] luciash heya mose! how are you? :) [10:41] mose not younger, that's for sure hahaha [10:41] luciash :D [10:42] luciash i just woke up from dead - was lying in bed since last thursday with flu :-p [10:42] mose oh, I just woke up from dead too, I slept during 10 years not using tiki much [10:44] luciash lol, yeah, I noticed you are poloming back since last week or too - just checking here from nostalgia? or do you plan to re-joice again? :) [10:44] mose well [10:44] luciash s/or too/or two/ [10:44] mose I'm in charge of a tiki for an active community [10:45] mose at some point, I may have to contribute again in small proportion [10:45] luciash coolio [10:45] mose but I lost my svn access [10:45] luciash oh, how come? :-o [10:45] mose my sf account is not in members anymore [10:45] mose somehow [10:45] mose no idea why [10:45] luciash strange [10:46] luciash I can re-add you for sure [10:46] mose that can be cool, in case of [10:46] mose I checked the list, there is a lot of old accounts in there [10:46] mose many inactive people are making it like a ghost town hahaha [10:47] luciash *g* [10:47] mose maybe I had myself removed on my own choice, that would be something I'm able to do [10:48] luciash yeah, maybe, that would explain it [10:48] luciash i do not recall any discussion about removing you [10:48] mose that's old [10:48] mose there is no fun investigating it :) [10:49] luciash and no biggie I would say... you can be back in a minute [10:49] mose btw I don't know if you heard, I work at bitnami now [10:50] mose I'm surrounded by docker images and clouds [10:50] luciash oh, nope, cool! :) [10:50] mose tiki runs fine in docker for dev that's convenient [10:51] luciash do they have a hq in taiwan? [10:51] mose no they are in Seville, spain [10:51] mose I'm a remote work-at-home type of guy [10:51] mose no pants required [10:51] luciash :) [10:52] luciash great that they offer that - most companies wants you to sit in a cubicle or slide their slides [10:53] mose well, there is a shortage of skilled senior people, so more and more companies have to cope with remote setup [10:54] mose I tried some local jobs here where I live in Taiwan [10:54] mose but thos asian love their cublicle too much [10:54] luciash mose: added you back to developers on sf.net [10:55] mose oh cool thanks [10:55] mose should we not do some kind of small ceremonial? [10:55] luciash lol :D [10:55] mose you know I love those hahaha [10:55] luciash Do you still agree to the 3Rules? ;) [10:56] mose hmm, what are they? [10:56] mose hahaha [10:56] * luciash puts his ceremony hat on [10:56] mose woohoooo [10:56] * mose puts his noob pants on [10:57] luciash mose: I suppose they did not change throughout the years you were absent ;) [10:57] mose the benefit of very simple words [10:57] luciash https://dev.tiki.org/3-Rules [10:58] luciash btw sf.net was playing with our nerves last week or so :( (lot of downtimes) [10:59] mose yeah I saw that [10:59] mose I also heard the debate to move to git is still live [10:59] luciash so we could not "commit early, commit often" :-p [10:59] luciash yup yup [11:00] mose oh there is still a quote of me in the verbose mode [11:00] mose a caution about caution, sounds like something I would say [11:00] luciash jonny seems fed up with sf.net already too - and he was the last one a year ago who was not keen to move much to Git yet [11:01] luciash we will see how it evolves/unfolds [11:01] luciash heheh [11:03] luciash interestingly, for all the developers on sf.net it says they have only "Read" permission - but that must be some misinformation I guess - it surely works for Write access too [11:03] zlinux joined #tikiwiki [11:04] luciash so anyway, welcome back mose! at least here on the good old (still alive) irc! :) [11:04] mose yeah that's crazy, you guys are like frozen in time [11:04] mose now people they are on github and use slack [11:05] * luciash considers it a bit ridiculous and puts his ceremony hat off again ;) [11:05] mose hahaha [11:06] mose well, I am on various slack groups, but my irc is still open [11:06] luciash I tried slack but never found it very useful - so I have it, but do not use it at all [11:14] mose when you don't use tools like znc or have irc in a screen session, slack makes possible to just see what you missed when you get back on it [11:14] mose that's the main point [11:19] luciash yeah, that makes sense, but I have screen and irssi for that... and I presume Slack does not run from cli [11:20] mose no it doesnt [11:20] mose you can use gateways but that's not the point [12:07] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [12:07] chibaguy joined #tikiwiki [12:11] chibaguy polom [12:11] jonnyb pompom chibaguy [12:11] jonnyb so do we have some new tikis to tewst somewhere? sorry, i was away yesterday... [12:12] chibaguy uh, yeah, I believe so. [12:14] chibaguy 12.13, 15.6, 17.2, 18.1 [12:20] jonnyb hmm, out of time again, will try and test after the next meeting... [12:22] zlinux joined #tikiwiki [12:22] Arunrf joined #tikiwiki [12:22] Arunrf Hi all [12:22] jonnyb ok, seems there are no new files on sf.net so i guess they're not quite released... [12:22] jonnyb hi Arunrf [12:23] Arunrf Getting very frustrated with toolbars in the editor.... what I sent in Admin Toolbars just isnt what appears [12:23] Arunrf trying to get a basic spellchecker icon there but just wont appear [12:24] Arunrf cant find a decent guide on setting up the toolbars [12:24] Arunrf any pointers? [12:25] jonnyb sorry Arunrf - not that i know of [12:25] jonnyb you probably are setting the toolbars for one section and looking for it in another? maybe? [12:25] Arunrf when an icon is shown on a menu in Admin toolbars whoulsnt it then just show in the editor [12:25] jonnyb sorry, have to go... [12:25] Arunrf ok no worries [12:26] jonnyb ah, there are differences in the icon for wiki and wysiwyg editors [12:27] Arunrf yes...im using WYSIWYG [12:27] mose and if you have html enabled or not [12:27] Arunrf but what I have set up in admin toolbars is different from what I see in the editor [12:27] mose there are different toolbars in both cases [12:27] Arunrf many icons missing [12:27] mose do you have htl enabled? [12:27] mose html [12:27] Arunrf just chckinh [12:27] Arunrf checkinh [12:28] mose on top you have 2 wysiwyg options, html mode or wiki mode [12:28] Arunrf where is that set? [12:30] Arunrf got it....i have WIKI and WYSIWYG set [12:30] Arunrf in view mode [12:33] Arunrf If i change section Wiki Pages to WYSIWYG HTML mode it makes no difference [12:34] Arunrf Section Global is already in WYSIWYG HTML mode [12:53] Arunrf I see there is no Spellcheck plugin in the plugin list..... has that been deprecated and the reason why it doesnt appear on the too9lbars [12:58] Tiki|bot Recent Bug: - http://dev.tiki.org/item6590-Structure-does-not-save-changes-on-15-5 [12:59] luciash Arunrf: probably so :-/ iirc the spellchecker was removed in favor of bro's builtin spellcheckers [13:00] luciash s/bro/browser/ [13:00] luciash :D [13:01] Arunrf where do i find that luciash [13:01] Arunrf and how do i enable it in tiki? [13:02] Arunrf I tried the browser spellcheckers but they dont seem to check within the editor dialogue box [13:03] luciash Arunrf: ah, really? ah, maybe because it is wysiwyg and not a normal textarea... i see :( [13:03] Arunrf you mean a wiki text area? [13:03] luciash yep [13:03] Arunrf That seems very limiting so thats why I have added wysiwyg [13:04] Arunrf sees like a basic function to have in a wiki! [13:05] luciash I would suggest try looking for your browser add-on/extension which would do spellchecking in wysiwyg - maybe there is something for the CKEditor (which is wysiwyg editor Tiki is using) [13:06] luciash spellchecker is never basic function [13:06] luciash imo [13:07] Arunrf i mean a basic function to have in a text editor or word proecssing package [13:09] Jyhem polom [13:09] Jyhem hi mose, welcome back ! :-) [13:10] mose hey Jyhem [13:11] luciash Arunrf: I suppose you have read this page: https://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Spellcheck&redirectpage=SpellChecker [13:11] Arunrf Thanks i saw that, it says This feature is no longer supported or relevant because browsers now have spellchecking, and that's where it should be handled. You can add grammar checking to Firefox with http://www.afterthedeadline.com/ [13:11] Arunrf but Browser spellchecking doesnt work [13:11] Arunrf ive just testes with Firefox and Chrome [13:12] Jyhem Still in Taiwan ? We set up a nice event in Strasbourg in july https://2018.rmll.info/ [13:12] Jyhem (soon translated in english, I'm told) [13:12] mose yeah that's 10 years this month I live there [13:12] Jyhem Ohh, celebration? [13:13] mose I never been big adept of time-cycle based celebrations [13:14] mose that's actually 3652 days [13:14] Jyhem ok, still impressing [13:14] mose I'm asian now, my eyes begin to become smaller, my nose reduces [13:15] luciash :D [13:15] mose nah that's a myth, I'm still having a huge nose [13:16] mose locals call us dabizeu [13:16] Jyhem does it mean "big nose" ? [13:17] mose precisely [13:17] Jyhem Better than ghosts, I suppose? [13:17] mose the ghost name if given in Hong-Kong only [13:18] luciash Arunrf: all I can suggest now is you click the "Source" button in the toolbar and there the browser spellchecking will work... [13:19] Jyhem Ahhh. Migt have happened to Marc, then [13:21] mose the most common name is laowai though [13:21] Jyhem Arunrf: spellchecking depends on language, so it's not really easy to provide at the editor level for open-source editors which are used all over the world. Whereas the browser is installed locally on a computer which might know which is your preferred languages [13:21] mose means old-foreigner (in a respectful way of the old word) [13:22] Arunrf yes, and I have the laguages installed in the browsers, but they dont seem to work within the Wiki editor windows [13:22] luciash Arunrf: you said Wysiwyg before [13:23] Arunrf Oddly i am changing the settings betweeen Wiki only and wysiwyg HTML and WIKI/Wysiwyg for glocal, admin and wiki and the toolbars dont seem to change [13:23] * Jyhem needs to get food. see you guys later [13:25] luciash Arunrf: it works for me with other icons than spellcheck [13:26] Arunrf do you mean your browser spell checker works when in wiki mode only ( ie not wysiwyg )? [13:26] luciash yes [13:26] luciash i mean that too [13:26] Arunrf lol [13:26] Arunrf what did you mean before - that swiucthing between modes changes the toolbars? [13:26] luciash but i meant that if i drag and drop an icon to the toolbar in the toolbars admin and then clcik save button it works for me [13:27] luciash i can see the added icon in my toolbars then [13:27] luciash for example the bgcolor one [13:27] Arunrf i changes everything to wiki mode and saves and nothing changed- i logged out and in adain as admin and the change to wiki had not saved [13:28] Arunrf odd [13:28] luciash i test this on tiki trunk, what version do you have? [13:30] Arunrf I think its 18 but where do I check [13:31] luciash Settings > Control Panels > General [13:31] Arunrf NO its 17.1 [13:32] luciash I am pretty sure it saves toolbars in 17.x as well [13:34] luis_asa joined #tikiwiki [13:36] luciash yup, it works [13:36] Arunrf I'll try a few more tests later thanks for your help [13:36] Arunrf byw [13:37] luciash https://demo.luciash.eu/tiki17x/Wysiwyg%2BTest [13:37] Arunrf whats the different between Global and Wiki pages sections in toolbars - if Wiki Page is different to Global whioch takes priority [13:37] luciash wiki page is in wiki pages only, global is all editable textareas [13:38] Arunrf and when I change the view mode to something different that aplies to all sections not just the section displayed - is that correct [13:38] Arunrf So Wiki pages will always only show the Wiki toolbar even if global is different [13:39] luciash if you modified wiki tollbars then I guess that one will show instead of global [13:41] luciash try dragging the bgcolor icon and save [13:41] luciash that test worked for me [13:41] luciash it shows in both, wysiwyg and wiki toolbars view mode too [13:48] luciash Arunrf: please also read https://docs.ckeditor.com/ckeditor4/latest/guide/dev_spellcheck.html [13:50] Arunrf great thanks I'll go through that [13:53] Arunrf How do I add CKeditor plugins? [13:58] luciash Arunrf: that is out of my scope, sorry [13:58] Arunrf no probs i'll research, thanks for the link [16:23] jimbodoken joined #tikiwiki [16:33] jonnyb joined #tikiwiki [16:48] zlinux joined #tikiwiki [17:16] robertokir joined #tikiwiki [18:03] magius joined #tikiwiki [18:04] magius hi there. we need for a political organization to setup a forum synchronized with existing mailing lists. 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