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nkoth3 | I agree with sylvieg that if they cannot wait - the name is tikiwiki. | [00:00] |
sylvieg | tikiwiki will be better than info.tw now | [00:00] |
MatWho | Ok so you think tikiwiki will do just check that with a lawer and I can start :) | [00:02] |
marclaporte | There is also bank account stuff and incorporation which takes time | [00:02] |
MatWho | I can wait | [00:02] |
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sylvieg | MatWho: I appreciated a lot what we did on the montreal fest - it was fantastic - I learnt a lot - | [00:03] |
MatWho | Thank I enjoyed it very much as well the method we used is going in our new book
Thank is thanks | [00:04] |
sylvieg | moving an opensource like tw is like moving a dinosaurs - with one of the first law - not change waht exists is a pain... | [00:04] |
MatWho | I hate this iPhone! | [00:04] |
sylvieg | diner time - family shouting at me... | [00:05] |
MatWho | Have fun!
Is pascal helping you ok the lawer he seed keen at the t fest Seed is seemed Can we just sort the name out first | [00:05] |
nkoth3 | MatWho: Pascal is in contact with the lawyer. | [00:08] |
MatWho | Great let's go!!!! | [00:09] |
nkoth3 | if you are willing to foot the bill, we are ready to go. Right now, what is holding me back is that I need to get the signature of the folks who said they will pay the lawyer | [00:10] |
MatWho | I don't want to be a banker for the foundation when we can get some external funding. This leaves me free to make other contributions to the comunity. I will pay for the desigers time | [00:13] |
nkoth3 | I will chase him down. WIll make it a priority | [00:13] |
MatWho | It is a waste not to get support just because you don't have time to ask!
:) Thanks for making it a protity we will all be grateful | [00:14] |
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MatWho | Protity is priority | [00:15] |
lq_993 | very morning to all! | [00:16] |
MatWho | Ok of is time for me to go to sleep all the best every one
:) | [00:16] |
lq_993 | my gentoo box did update and by mistake updateted my 1.9.3 to 2.2, it works, but no modules!
and if i get it to show one, it does not show more than one! any clue as to how to fix this? or what's the difference in modules/menus in 2.2, compare to 1.9.3? | [00:17] |
nkoth3 | show one, but only one? | [00:19] |
lq_993 | yes, | [00:19] |
nkoth3 | have you tried clearing the modules cache/other cahces?? | [00:19] |
lq_993 | yepp... | [00:20] |
nkoth3 | how did you get to show one? | [00:20] |
lq_993 | i can assign it in the modules,
but is i add one more then it replaces the one that was there, | [00:21] |
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lq_993 | even if i use right modules, and assign the left one,
it kills the right module! | [00:21] |
lq_639 | Hey everyone. I have added the permission tiki_p_edit pages to user Group Anonymous but when I click on a page to edit as anonymous it asks me to login. Also I've seen a feature that required captcha for anonymous edits, where was that?
Oh and the quick edit and stuff on the pages do not display. Where I saw the edit was under page list. | [00:22] |
nkoth3 | maybe the upgrade wasn't smooth. did you run the upgrade script?
lq_993^ | [00:28] |
lq_993 | does anybody knows what's the difference module-wise between 1.9.3(Sirius) and 2.2?
no, i use Gentoo, and mtf just emerged 2.2, | [00:28] |
nkoth3 | off hand I don't think there was that much difference | [00:29] |
lq_993 | took me a littlewhile to sort database and style to fix atleast main appearance,
hmm... | [00:29] |
nkoth3 | normally when you upgrade manually, | [00:30] |
lq_993 | it does show the title of the module, but no content, | [00:30] |
marclaporte | captcha for anonymous edits -> in admin wiki | [00:31] |
nkoth3 | there is http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Upgrade+1.9.x+to+2.x | [00:31] |
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lq_639 | yeah I found the anon edit thing
any idea what permissions I need to have to allow them to actually edit the page though? I mean it looks like the tiki_p_edit would do it. The description is "Can edit pages" but it doesn't seem to work | [00:32] |
marclaporte | lq_993: : try another theme | [00:34] |
lq_993 | ok,
gonna try it now... | [00:36] |
nkoth3 | lq_639, if you r pages are in categories, the user also needs tiki_p_edit_categorized | [00:39] |
lq_639 | They have that permission as well
but it's still not letting my anon users edit anything else? | [00:40] |
nkoth3 | clear cache
tiki-admin_system.php | [00:42] |
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lq_639 | cleared the top 3 cache things
still get "Permission denied you cannot edit this page" along with a login box | [00:45] |
ricks99 | @lq_636: which tiki version?
oops. lq_639 ;) | [00:45] |
lq_639 | I would think the latest. I just put it up on saturday
where do I check? | [00:46] |
ricks99 | admin: general | [00:46] |
lq_639 | 2.2 | [00:46] |
ricks99 | anonymous can see & click the edit icon on each wiki page, but clicking it shows permission denied, right? | [00:47] |
lq_639 | no they can't see the icon on the pages either, they see the edit icon when listing all pages and then I get permission denied
I want them to see it on the pages | [00:47] |
ricks99 | wiki pages, right (not html pages)... | [00:48] |
lq_639 | correct | [00:48] |
ricks99 | and the anonymous group has tiki_p_edit, and tiki_p_edit_categorized permissions? | [00:49] |
lq_639 | they have permissions to view html pages but not edit
yes | [00:49] |
ricks99 | is the page locked? | [00:49] |
lq_639 | none of my pages are locked. I'm the only one that has permissions to lock
should I give them access to the quick edit module and see if they can edit from there? | [00:49] |
ricks99 | are you using the staging/approval feature?
is your site public? | [00:49] |
lq_639 | I'm not sure what that is ricks
yes it's public | [00:50] |
ricks99 | url? | [00:50] |
lq_639 | www.thetenniswiki.com | [00:50] |
ricks99 | I'm able to edit your Home Page
what's the issue? | [00:51] |
lq_639 | lol wtf
how do I change that? I don't want people editing the homepage try one of the other pages in list_pages | [00:51] |
ricks99 | either lock the page, or assign page-specific perms | [00:51] |
lq_639 | that's strange you're right
I can edit the homepage as anon but not the other pages... how do I lock the homepage? | [00:52] |
ricks99 | do you have page-specific perms on any of the pages? (they will override the global perms) | [00:53] |
lq_639 | I don't believe so | [00:53] |
ricks99 | as admin, click LOCK | [00:53] |
lq_639 | don't see a lock option. actually how do I assign the page specific permissions? that might be better to know | [00:53] |
ricks99 | as admin, click PERMS (you may need to enable the LOCK option first. admin: wiki) | [00:54] |
lq_639 | where is perms??? I'm not seeing that either | [00:55] |
ricks99 | button/links at bottom of wiki page | [00:55] |
lq_639 | lol yeah I found that sorry | [00:56] |
ricks99 | do you have custom perms assigned to your categories (these too will override the global
Anon perms) | [00:58] |
lq_639 | I'll check in a sec, setting permissions on the homepage
I apparently have permissions set in the categories. If I just remove those then the global permissions will override? | [00:58] |
ricks99 | yes. by setting category-specific perms, you were overridding the Group perms | [01:01] |
lq_639 | lol ok thanks | [01:01] |
ricks99 | yw | [01:02] |
lq_639 | while I've got you here, is there any kind of a ratings plugin module for tikiwiki? | [01:03] |
ricks99 | y. u can use tiki's poll feature to create a page ranking | [01:04] |
lq_639 | I'm actually looking for something along the lines of... one sec let me find the link
http://www.productwiki.com/asus-eee-pc-1000he/ like the thumbs up and down system with the users being able to add comments | [01:04] |
ricks99 | not "out-of-the-box", but you can use any third-party service.
for example, i use the js-kit service on some of my tikis most require (fairly) simple tweaks to the base templates | [01:06] |
lq_639 | that looks pretty awesome
I see that you can add it several times to the same page for multiple categories is there a way to pull the results, like have the top ranked from a certain category? | [01:08] |
ricks99 | not sure which you're referring to... | [01:09] |
lq_639 | like if I add it say 5 times for multiple categories to be rated | [01:10] |
ricks99 | add what? | [01:10] |
lq_639 | can I pull a list of the top from a certain category? the js-kit ratings
nevermind found it on their site. It looks like I can thank you ricks, this is exactly what I've been looking for | [01:11] |
ricks99 | i believe so. by using the 'navigator' i think | [01:12] |
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lq_639 | would it be possible to link the ratings application to the category id of the wiki by any chance?
I may find that out when I look at the js-kit installed, but it'd be nice to know ahead of time | [01:13] |
ricks99 | sure. *anything* is possible | [01:14] |
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lq_993 | well, tryed "moreneat" style, but still, only one menue only.... | [01:48] |
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lq_993 | any ideas why there can be only one menu? | [02:35] |
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marclaporte | polom | [03:20] |
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marclaporte | polom chibaguy | [03:27] |
chibaguy | polom marclaporte
packing my bags :-) | [03:29] |
marclaporte | me too! | [03:30] |
chibaguy | from reading the irc log, seems like wheels are turning (name, design, etc.) | [03:30] |
marclaporte | there are some nice cosmetic fixes on 3.0 on thenews.css is it safe to copy file to 2.x install?
yes, things are moving but it's not as fast as we would all wish | [03:31] |
chibaguy | I'm not sure about all thenews changes, actually. They should be safe, but it'd be best to check. I'll do that today. | [03:33] |
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slowguy2009 | do you all know tiki? | [03:49] |
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chibaguy | slowguy is kinda fast
taking dog out now. bbl. | [03:51] |
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Kutti | hi while i am creating workspaces types, i am getting error like a "This Variable may not be empty $_post["id"]
can anybodys there to help me? | [04:38] |
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Kutti | hi while i am creating workspaces types, i am getting error like a "This Variable may not be empty $_post["id"]
is there anybody avaliable for help? | [05:03] |
chibaguy | Kutti, hi, sorry, no experience with that.
xavi is the guy who knows most about workspaces, I think. Not many people are using it. | [05:12] |
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mib_15glpi | can anyone tell me where to place the file for batch_upload_pages mod? | [05:22] |
Kutti | ok chibaguy, how can i get a help from xavi ? | [05:24] |
chibaguy | Maybe ask on the tikiwiki-users mailing list. (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-users)
mib_15glpi, sorry, no idea about that. | [05:26] |
mib_15glpi | hey chiba how about tell me where I can find the documentation for mods then? | [05:28] |
chibaguy | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=mods&bl=y | [05:29] |
mib_15glpi | thanks, but batch_upload_pages mod isn't even listed
that helped though it had where you're supposed to upload documentation (-.-)b | [05:31] |
chibaguy | luciash (if you're around), can the improvements in thenews.css (trunk) be backported to 2.2? I'm not sure about the tabs styles. | [05:33] |
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chibaguy | mib_15glpi, if batch_upload_pages is old, I'd be careful about using it. Lots of things have changed. | [05:34] |
mib_15glpi | I've got a backup of my pages table
even after reading the documentation it doesn't tell me where to put the file lol | [05:34] |
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chibaguy | yeah, no idea. | [05:39] |
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SEWilco2 | mib_15glpi: And thus one goes from reading to writing the documentation. | [05:50] |
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Kutti | chibaguy: Do you have any idea about themes which will support the Workspaces....? | [05:57] |
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chibaguy | No, xavi asked me about that but I haven't had time to help yet. | [06:05] |
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luciash | polom
hi chibaguy yep, i've already backported few bits, i can backport the tabs too luciash is reading back | [06:33] |
chibaguy | Oh, ok, great. Marc was asking about having 2.2 look nice like trunk (thanks to you) ;-) | [06:45] |
luciash | hi MatWho ! | [06:55] |
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luciash | for me it is clear like this: "I'm contributing to *TikiWiki CMS/Groupware Project* and it will release *Tiki 3.0* soon" ;) | [07:10] |
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chibaguy | luciash, what conversation is that part of? ;-) | [07:16] |
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chibaguy | chibaguy read in the log about project name and design discussion.... | [07:17] |
luciash | chibaguy: it's reply to "00:42 < MatWho> Please give me the name" ;)
so it's Tiki by the TikiWiki CMS/Groupware Project :) | [07:18] |
chibaguy | ok, I agree with you on that.
:-) Easiest way forward. although "Tiki CMS/Groupware" also makes sense as the name of the software. With "Tiki" also ok as the short form. | [07:20] |
luciash | (same like OS X by Apple or Windows Vista by Microsoft Corporation or Mambo by Mambo Foundation or Joomla by Joomla Project or e17 by the Enlightenment Project ...)
makes sense but it's too long and hard to understand for non-techie/non-english speaking users | [07:25] |
chibaguy | true | [07:26] |
luciash | i can imagine we can release also some other software/product under the "TikiWiki CMS/Groupware Project"
in the future e.g. "TikiConnector" or "TikiDesk" or "Tikronyzer" etc. ;) which could be different suportive apps and not Tiki itself as it is now heheh, see http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/the-project.html coincidently above i see an "advert": "Get connected with JoomlaConnect" :-p | [07:26] |
chibaguy | links to a community page, looks like, with news from language sites.
I mean joomla sites in different languages. | [07:32] |
luciash | imho if we would use "TikiWiki CMS/Groupware Project" for the Foundation/Official project name purpose we will also fullfill the "preserve environment" rule because it will still be googled out without change and we can use Tiki as offical software product name at the same time ;)
chibaguy: i guess we are here "alone" now... should i paste it to the devel list ? | [07:34] |
chibaguy | Well, before, marc said that having a product name (Tiki) different from the domain would be a problem. I'm not sure if this is solved.
Yes, I think this topic should be looked at by all devs. I hope it can be resolved for the Tiki3 release. | [07:37] |
luciash | hmm, i don't see it like big problem... is there www.osx.com officially by apple ? is there www.windowsvista.com official site by Microsoft ? | [07:39] |
chibaguy | that's true. | [07:40] |
luciash | (heh, maybe yes, i didn't check :-p)
ok, pasting it now :) | [07:40] |
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amette | funny feeling to drop in here and see the discussion that one just read on devel-list...
... kinda deja-vu ;) | [08:12] |
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chibaguy | amette, you're too quick. | [08:22] |
amette | *g*
chibaguy: you're coming to montreal? | [08:24] |
chibaguy | yes | [08:26] |
amette | coooool :D | [08:26] |
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amette | looking forward to meeting you :) | [08:26] |
chibaguy | yep. me too, you. :-) | [08:26] |
amette | :) | [08:26] |
chibaguy | actually tomorrow I leave here, to stop first in Portland Oregon for the Recent Changes Camp. Will meet marc and louis-philippe there.
conference for wiki discussions, I believe. | [08:27] |
luciash | amette: heheh, good morning
chibaguy: will be great i guess great fun :) | [08:30] |
chibaguy | yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Oregon is also my homeland, but haven't been there in a long time.
The beaver state. ;-) | [08:32] |
luciash | aaah, cool :) | [08:34] |
chibaguy | Colder than Tokyo, but warmer than Montreal, so I can gradually adapt. ;-) | [08:35] |
luciash | heh
what temperature is in tokyo ? it's lot of snow here now, freezy cold | [08:36] |
chibaguy | Here the sky has mostly been clear. And some days quite warm (20degC) - the first warm days of spring.
Also some rainy days, and temperature down to around 0. | [08:41] |
luciash | wow
~ 20 | [08:41] |
chibaguy | Only a little snowing, and it didn't stay.
Yeah, nobody could believe it. Set some records. This part of Japan doesn't get much snow, but even the snowier parts aren't getting much this year. | [08:42] |
CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16828 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Left-column heading margin corrected; CSS menu colors fixed. | [08:53] |
luciash | luciash does svn up
oh, a conflict on thenews.css :) | [09:00] |
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Elvanor | Hmm, does Tikiwiki really does that ? ;)
Ok, my real question is: is Tikiwiki adapted for task management, and collaboration between a small team? What I need to do is assign simple tasks to team members, those members can comment on those tasks, report their completion or current % done etc And I need a calendar view too. | [09:37] |
CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16829 10/trunk/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] CSS menu colors fixed more. | [09:40] |
chibaguy | Elvanor, I guess trackers are the way to assign tasks in a group. | [09:41] |
Elvanor | chibaguy: in tikiwiki you mean? | [09:41] |
chibaguy | yes. | [09:42] |
Elvanor | I need something simple, heavily focused on communication between team members, that reminds you of deadlines etc
I guess I should just try tikiwiki and see... | [09:42] |
chibaguy | Hmm, I don't know. Maybe some special-purpose tool would be better for that. | [09:42] |
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chibaguy | Tikiwiki doesn't really have that specific capability out of the box.
You'd have to put it together using trackers, and I'm not sure of the calendar integration with that. Of course I could be wrong; not a trackers expert. | [09:44] |
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Elvanor | chibaguy: I am looking for some special purpose tool... but have trouble finding it :) | [10:00] |
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luciash | chibaguy: i wonder why in ie6 the css menu doesn't expand down ? | [10:25] |
CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16830 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: [FIX] nicely aligned cssmenu in FF (TODO: make it for IE too) | [10:30] |
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chibaguy | I don't know, luciash. It was working when I checked in ie6 before.
I'm cranking up my ie6 laptop. | [10:40] |
luciash | weird | [10:41] |
chibaguy | if you find a change that css menus in all themes can be improved by, css/cssmenus.css handles most of the basic layout and function. The theme's css file handles theme-specific coloring, etc. | [10:42] |
luciash | do i need to clear the tiki cache ? | [10:42] |
chibaguy | The theme file overrides css/cssmenu.css for colors, etc.
cssmenu.css -> cssmenus.css | [10:42] |
luciash | a pity someone created the css in the tiki root, i wonder why it didn't go under the styles/ folder .-/ | [10:43] |
chibaguy | I don't know. | [10:43] |
luciash | yup, i know themes override that | [10:43] |
chibaguy | sure | [10:43] |
luciash | thanks for the recent fixes
to the cssmenus i just tried with thenews and it didn't work in ie6 we need to fix it asap so we could use css menus instead of the bloated plm on tw.o sites | [10:43] |
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chibaguy | Try point at http://zukakakina.com/ui/
That's my ui-revamp branch test where I worked on this. | [10:46] |
luciash | horiz menu works nicely there but the vertical goes under the dropdowns :-[10:49] <luciash> in coelesce
same for thenews but i see it works there at least but doesn't show the expand arrows as in trunk | [10:49] |
damian | nice design there guys | [10:53] |
luciash | hi damian :)
where ? | [10:53] |
damian | hi :) | [10:53] |
luciash | :) | [10:53] |
damian | on zukakakina | [10:53] |
chibaguy | Yeah, the arrows are missing in IE6, one of those problems caused by ie6 insufficiency. | [10:53] |
luciash | chibaguy: ah
damian: yup yup, gary is our theme porting god ;) | [10:54] |
chibaguy | I forgot the exact reason. I think the background image selector for the arrows had to be used for something else in ie6. I'll have to check notes. | [10:56] |
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chibaguy | well, tikigod was taken, so I had to settle for themegod. ;-) | [10:56] |
damian | excellent. lol :) Ah the old days lol | [10:56] |
chibaguy | hi damian
About these css menus, I need to document what I did and how to do the styling, still. And of course if anyone can improve, that's great. | [10:56] |
luciash | i hope we'll get them as default in 3.0 ;) | [10:59] |
chibaguy | In ie6 in trunk, I see some flicker when the mouse moves up and down the list in a dropdown.
Also the li items look about an em narrower than the ul, so a white background shows. But they work. You're right about selector dropdowns showing through. I think there's a hack to fix that, but don't know if we should bother. | [11:03] |
luciash | that's weird, i have Tracker menu on the left which expands for anon but on the horiz css menu it doesn't, must be the cache :-p | [11:04] |
chibaguy | (Involves add iframes somewhere, or something like that.) | [11:04] |
luciash | hmm, this is usability issue | [11:05] |
chibaguy | Ooh, the site header (Coelesce) in ie6 is an ugly mess. :-| | [11:05] |
luciash | *g*
heh, in strasa it evendoesn't bother to show the sitesearch chibaguy: sorry, the issue with cssmenus must be my non-native ie6 (i'm running it under wine) | [11:06] |
chibaguy | strasa has its own tiki-site_header.tpl and maybe site search isn't coded properly there. I don't have it in Opera or ff either | [11:12] |
luciash | ah | [11:12] |
chibaguy | Well, I'll double-check on that and make screenshots of probs I run across.
I wonder if anybody here has experience with running multiple IE versions on winxp.... | [11:12] |
luciash | i think you have to use some virtualization solution
heh, PLM works pretty nicely under wined IE6 in the news | [11:15] |
chibaguy | That's good.
bbl. | [11:17] |
luciash | trunk looks nice in opera :) | [11:22] |
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chibaguy | Hoohoo, used Muliple-IE to install ie6 on my regular laptop. :-)
http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE Those ie6 bugs are in trouble now.... ;-) | [11:27] |
amette | :D | [11:35] |
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ZuLu | hi there | [11:55] |
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ZuLu | is anyone listening
? hello? | [11:55] |
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ZuLu | hello | [11:58] |
chibaguy1 | ZuLu hello | [11:58] |
ZuLu | I have a couple of questions, can I just go and ask them? ;)
Thanks a lot! First one, how do I get read access to the trunk in SVN? I just need credentials, but haven't been able to find them | [11:58] |
chibaguy1 | Yep. "Jusk ask, don't ask to ask" is our motto. | [11:59] |
ZuLu | hehe that's what I thought :) | [11:59] |
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chibaguy1 | Do you want to do an svn check out? Or just see the files via the web? | [12:00] |
ZuLu | svn checkout would be cool
I already have TortoiseSVN installed and configured | [12:00] |
chibaguy1 | http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=SVNTips has some info. | [12:01] |
ZuLu | Yeah I checked that out, but SVN keeps asking for credentials
I tried with Anonymous/ and Anonymous/anonymous but no luck keeps popping up the user/pass window I need this to try and solve my second problem: a bug with the administrative interface of the workflow engine has been introduced somewhere between 1.9 and 2.2, I just cannot pinpoint where the bug is (too many includes, templates and variables involved) so I thought maybe someone had posted a fix in the SVN version (right now it's impossible to use the administrative interface to move a process' instance from one activity to the other - in 1.9 it was working - as I keep getting a "Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_GET["aid"]" error ) I've searched the Galaxia Workflow Engine forums, but they look quite dead (both on their former homesite and on the new one) | [12:02] |
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chibaguy1 | I don't know about the svn authentication problem. You can also use the web interface to see/get the trunk files, if that helps.
workflow development has been sporadic, to put it nicely. | [12:10] |
luciash | chibaguy1: great news about the IE :) | [12:13] |
chibaguy1 | yeah, was very easy. I hope nothing in my pc gets weird now.
luciash, any idea why ZuLu would have trouble doing an svn checkout? | [12:13] |
luciash | heheh
no idea, it shouldn't be needed to svn checkout | [12:14] |
chibaguy1 | " SVN keeps asking for credentials" | [12:14] |
luciash | just for commits | [12:15] |
chibaguy1 | right, that's my experience too. | [12:15] |
luciash | ZuLu: did you svn co or svn something_else ? | [12:15] |
chibaguy1 | luciash, he's using TortoiseSVN client for windows. It's a gui that works with the Explorer file manager. So just a context menu for actions like check out.
(If I'm not mistaken) actual commands are hidden | [12:17] |
luciash | yup, just to be sure he didn't click the "wrong button" instead of checkout or update :) | [12:18] |
chibaguy1 | right
ZuLu, maybe check the docs at Sourceforge, for troubleshooting, etc. | [12:18] |
luciash | and maybe tortoisesvn has some config options where you can specify "require password" or something | [12:19] |
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ZuLu | sorry, I've been called to attend to smt important :S
thanks fot the tips I've been trying to dload from trunk, no special things I'll check my config and retry... maybe it's the proxy or the firewall, thanks anyways | [12:41] |
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luciash | chibaguy1: alternative way → http://labs.insert-title.com/Multiple-IEs-in-Windows_article795.aspx or install standalone version of ie directly: http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone
oh sorry, the standalones are for NT and win9x it seems | [12:58] |
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ricks99 | q: on login: admin, are the username min/max and "force lower case" options ignore, if I enable the "use email as login" option?
i mean, what if my email address is more than the "max charcaters"? | [13:39] |
rlopez_ | hello people. one question. we already have a version of the mod AulaWiki patched to work in tiki 2.x
where should we commit it? i mean the svn server. in the last tikifest in madrid marc and louis-philippe teached us how to commit and this stuff | [13:47] |
ricks99 | http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Where+to+commit | [13:50] |
rlopez_ | i will have a look, thanks ricks99
it seems there is a specific branch for mods. thanks. we want to commit the last version because xavi told us there were several people asking for the last version in the forums. i hope with this commit they can download it thanks again | [13:51] |
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megrim | is there a mod or a patch for tikiwiki that will allow the tab key, when pressed in table editor in WYSYWYG mode, to go between cells of the table? | [14:04] |
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nkoth3 | hi, does anyone know if there is a quick way to add custom button to the wysiwyg editor?
(not developer, but user) | [15:17] |
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sylvieg | I think you have to create a plugin and add it in admin->wysiwyg | [15:23] |
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megrim | i'm having a huge problem with my tikiwiki 2.2 installation. using google chrome, i am unable to commit any modifications to a wiki page
it appears to me that tikiwiki is completely broken using google chrome. | [15:26] |
ricks99 | chrome works fine for me (2.2 and 3.x) maybe a theme-specific issue? | [15:31] |
megrim | for example, I make the most _trivial_ change to a page, adding "123" to it, and it does not preview
all of my pages are created in wysywyg google chrome just completely fails to edit them | [15:32] |
ricks99 | ah... you are using wysiwyg. i guess that's why it is labeled as "experimental" ;-) | [15:35] |
megrim | Is there any other wysywig that works for chrome avaialble
Well unfortunately tikiwiki can't meet my needs. we use chrome in our shop as the primary browser, and we need non tech people to be able t ocontribute to our wiki, so wysywyg is needed | [15:35] |
ricks99 | i believe it works in 3.x | [15:41] |
luciash | megrim: are there any extensions for chrome like for firefox ? i know firefox has an extension which turns every common textarea into wysiwyg editor then | [15:50] |
nkoth3 | sylvieg: how to add plugin in admin...wysiwyg? Is this in 2.0 or just trunk? | [15:51] |
sylvieg | so far I know the plugin must be added in lib/fckeditor_tiki/plugins/
must be a fckplugin.js | [15:55] |
megrim | where do i get this 3.x? Fantastico installed 2.2 | [15:55] |
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ricks99 | tikiwiki.org click DOWNLOAD. there's a link to the developer site for pre-release stuff | [16:01] |
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chibaguy | megrim, I can use the wysiwyg editor in 2.2 with SRWare Iron (Chrome minus tracking), fyi.
afaik there's no function difference between these browsers apart from privacy/security issues. http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php I don't have Chrome installed right now to test with, but I've used it in the past IIRC. bbl. | [16:14] |
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CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16832 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]tracker: a tiki_p_admin_trackers can see the users list | [16:33] |
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s0nix | hi
Anyone has a good cheat sheet of the tikiwiki syntax ? | [16:58] |
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ricks99 | @s0nix: did u look at the docs? | [17:15] |
s0nix | yeah, but doc is not a cheat sheet | [17:16] |
ricks99 | did u click the HELP button while editing?
it includes the most comming tag | [17:16] |
s0nix | ah, that's interesting. thx
last thing, i know that it's possible to write numbered list, with text on the next line using the + character at the beginning. is there a way to write numbered paragraph? to not need always write +, and ++, and ** for indent my text at least the + for empty line | [17:17] |
ricks99 | sorry. i don't understand. use + to maintain indentation in a list (numbered or bulleted) | [17:24] |
CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16833 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]tracker: always test on the local perms: TODO: find a better way to test the perms in the tpl | [17:25] |
s0nix | But when you write a paragraph like "#Configuation", and 50 other lines of intructions or whatever, you use + ? | [17:25] |
ricks99 | no. for headings, use numbered headings -- not a list. see docs for details | [17:28] |
s0nix | all right
ahh, "magnifique" :) | [17:29] |
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lq_059 | can anyone help with a basic tikiwiki install problem?
!help | [18:56] |
Tikiwiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . | [18:58] |
lq_059 | install problem | [18:58] |
Iramon | can you give a more precise description of your problem? | [19:00] |
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lq_059 | yes, first time using chat so I will apologize now for any mistakes or breaches of ettiquete
i tried to install tikiwiki on II6, have PHP and MySql running with no problems | [19:01] |
Iramon | np ;) I am tikinoob too^^ but maybe I can help u | [19:01] |
lq_059 | I received a crazy error message when running the tiki-install.pho
.php Warning: include(templates_c/en^%%DD^DD2^DD29EF94%%tiki.tpl.php) [function.include]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in C:InetpubwwwrootWikilibsmartylibsSmarty.class.php on line 1265 no idea what to do... searched faqs... nothing there | [19:02] |
Iramon | looks like he messed up a filename with character encoding
did you try to download and install the sources again? | [19:03] |
lq_059 | yes, same results... | [19:04] |
Iramon | so that we can be sure that nothing got damaged during download?
k | [19:04] |
lq_059 | figured I screwed something up, so I repeated before looking for help | [19:04] |
Iramon | have you tried the sources on another webserver, e.g. xampp for test? | [19:04] |
lq_059 | no, have not tried that, trying to create a wiki on my own server | [19:05] |
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lq_059 | the web server I am using is IIS 6.0
not Apache | [19:06] |
Iramon | I know, you wrote it above ;)
never tried on IIS, but should work... does the php-module have write access on the needed directories? | [19:07] |
lq_059 | I found two other references to the problem in some forum, but neither post had any answers
yes, I verified this | [19:08] |
ricks99 | @lq_059: the erorr indicates a missing or unreadable directory (../templates_c) first, verify that the directory exists and is writeabel | [19:08] |
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lq_059 | one moment | [19:09] |
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Iramon | templates_c <--- is for cached filed... if he tries to open that file which wasn't able to be created before, such an error may occur | [19:09] |
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ricks99 | no. look at the error. notice how it has forward and back slash?
common poblem for iis server first, need to make sure directory exists if it does, the issue is the baseurl in the php.ini -- need to remove the xtra slash | [19:10] |
Iramon | ricks99 is the pro, listen to him ;) | [19:11] |
ricks99 | lol | [19:11] |
Iramon | <-- noob^^ | [19:11] |
lq_059 | actually, Iramon hit on the problem, no offense ricks99
the templace_c folder needed to have anonymous priviledges set to modify | [19:12] |
ricks99 | np. | [19:13] |
lq_059 | just did that, and it appeared to start the install.php file | [19:13] |
Iramon | nice :) | [19:13] |
lq_059 | well, I will continue with install, see if I can screw something else up.... thanks for the patience and help!! | [19:13] |
Iramon | np, yw :) | [19:14] |
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alphanoob | hi everbody | [19:18] |
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alphanoob | i got a strange problem with my tikiwiki
some pages simply aren't shown | [19:19] |
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alphanoob | if you try to visit them, by typing the adress in or clicking a link, they very often don't work. there are only three or four lines of HTML loaded | [19:20] |
ricks99 | sounds like a memory issue. see faqs in doc | [19:21] |
alphanoob | what kind of memory? do you mean quotas or the database-quotas? | [19:22] |
ricks99 | php memory. see faqs/docs | [19:22] |
alphanoob | ok. i'll look for that keywords
thanks | [19:22] |
ricks99 | http://doc.tikiwiki.org/faq | [19:23] |
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alphanoob | ricks99: is there no possibility to use tikiwiki with a smaller amount of memory | [19:29] |
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alphanoob | ricks99: if i would de-activate some features for example | [19:32] |
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Iramon | alphanoob: there are some hints on dev.tikiwiki.org to tune tikiwiki
but I think the best way to keep your memory usage small on most sites, is to reduce the ammount of used modules in the site structure but I am not sure on that, the memory usage depends a lot of the pages you access | [19:51] |
alphanoob | hm.
i think i'll use another wiki-enginge. i don't think i'll get this one running stable | [19:53] |
Iramon | what is your max memory for php scripts in php.ini ? | [19:55] |
alphanoob | and i don't want to contact the admin to change the php-settings. such a change will take several weeks...
24 megs | [19:55] |
Iramon | 64-bit operating system? | [19:55] |
alphanoob | i don't know exactly
hum yeah looked it up | [19:55] |
Iramon | I got it running properly on debian 4 with apache 2.2 with 32M | [19:56] |
alphanoob | yes 32 megs are written in the requirements | [19:56] |
Iramon | with a 64-bit operating system... won't work with 16M on 64-bit because it needs a bit more memory then 32-bit because of pointers having double size
yep 32 is recommended are a lot pages not showing up with 24mb? | [19:57] |
alphanoob | most
the only page i found running, is the login-page | [19:58] |
Iramon | homepage doesn't work also? | [19:59] |
alphanoob | yes
ok. well that's very sad, but i don't have any influence on the php.ini - i even don't have direct FTP-access... to upload files is very complicated throu a VPN and a Terminalserver using SMB. and the admin is always avoiding work if possible | [19:59] |
Iramon | can't help you then except refering to dev.tikiwiki.org for tuning tiki
maybe others are more experienced, I am relatively new to tiki too | [20:02] |
alphanoob | yeah, but i don't think, that will be satisfactioning
*will NOT be of course well tikiwiki really looked interesting, but i will try an engine which is running stable on that server... | [20:03] |
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alphanoob | but thanks for your help | [20:05] |
Iramon | kk
if you want to have a look: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tikiwiki+Performance+Tuning&highlight=performance and: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=memoryconsumption | [20:05] |
alphanoob | yeah, but the first link is on changings to the server-config | [20:06] |
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alphanoob | and the second link will reduce the memory consumption by something about 438k. thats far away from 8m. | [20:09] |
Iramon | *points to upper anwser* --> <Iramon> can't help you then except refering to dev.tikiwiki.org for tuning tiki | [20:10] |
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alphanoob | yep | [20:11] |
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tricia | hello all i made code changes for http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1347 & would like to commit can anyone vet me ? | [20:25] |
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xavi | polom
any master of "profiles" around? I can't get to install the profile I prepared during the TikiFestMadrid... "Exchange_Market" | [21:30] |
luciash | re | [21:31] |
sylvieg | I got so many problems... perhaps I can help... | [21:32] |
luciash | btw, is it possible to uninstall profile ? | [21:32] |
sylvieg | no - better to do in a new database | [21:32] |
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sylvieg | dammit - it is again broken - I can not refresh the profile list ... I have again a time out (at least I suppose) | [21:34] |
xavi | oups, it seems to be working. the profile page showed up after a minute or so
I seem to have things not well defined at least the profile administration is saying which variables I didn't define properly, etc. | [21:34] |
sylvieg | lucky one I have no message and refresh is not refreshing... | [21:35] |
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lq_350 | I just finished installing tikiwiki on an IIS 6.0 server, with previous install of PHP and MySQL
on first attemp to use the wiki i get this error: PHP has encountered an Access Violation at 028F7BF0 any ideas? | [21:37] |
xavi | lq_350: no idea about IIS. sorry | [21:40] |
lq_350 | then that makes to of us.... | [21:40] |
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lq_350 | xavi, I am very new to tikiwiki as well as IRC, how do you get a screen name?
got a feeling I may be using this resources quite a bit | [21:43] |
luciash | lq_350: try /nick mynewscreenname | [21:46] |
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oldgener | thanks | [21:47] |
luciash | np, that was easy ;) | [21:47] |
oldgener | I take it that the nickname is not persistent | [21:47] |
luciash | nope, you can change it to whatever you want as long as it's not already taken/registered | [21:48] |
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luciash | oldgener: if you want to register it you have to identify with NickServ (see irc.freenode.net help) | [21:49] |
tricia | ah some activity can someone svp add me to the sf project: campbe13 ?? | [21:50] |
luciash | hello tricia | [21:50] |
tricia | Hi Luci will you be in montreal next week | [21:51] |
luciash | unfortunately not :-/ | [21:51] |
tricia | too bad ! | [21:51] |
luciash | i can add you | [21:52] |
tricia | thanks will it take long ? | [21:53] |
luciash | luciash takes on the ceremony hat :)
first you have to understand and agree our 3Rules ;) | [21:53] |
tricia | bows to the ceremony hat wearer
Yes I read the rules and I agree with them. | [21:53] |
luciash | great, step one passed :) | [21:54] |
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luciash | tricia: it'll take just a little while | [21:55] |
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luciash | until my browser fully starts ;) | [21:56] |
tricia | no hurry just deciding whether I should do something else & check in changes tomorrow | [21:56] |
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oldgener | can anyone shed any light on "PHP has encountered an Access Violation at 028F7BF0" - encountered this on initial use after installing tiki | [21:57] |
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luciash | tricia: just to be sure, is this you ? → https://sourceforge.net/users/campbe13/ | [22:00] |
tricia | yes that is me | [22:01] |
luciash | okay step 2 confirmed :) | [22:02] |
tricia | we're rolling along here ! | [22:03] |
luciash | step 3: welcome to the TikiWiki Project as a developer :) | [22:03] |
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luciash | luciash opens some champagne, cheers with tricia and others and takes off his ceremony hat :) | [22:05] |
tricia | Thank you I am honoured by my inclusion... I will save the speach for later | [22:05] |
luciash | welcome to our very small girly base of developers actually ;) | [22:06] |
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CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r16836 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_gal.php: [FIX] GD detected not necessarily working ref: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1347 | [22:06] |
luciash | tricia: i've replied on the dev list to your message, i hope it's understandable | [22:06] |
tricia | thanks I'll check it out I hope I can be more productive ! | [22:07] |
svn quick help : I did an svn add x.php , then svn commit y.php but I don't see my original x.php should it not be added with the commit ?? | [22:12] | |
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CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r16837 10/trunk/ (testGD.php tiki-setup_base.php): [FIX] testGD.php add ref: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1347 | [22:15] |
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luciash | tricia: svn add x.php and svn commit x.php | [22:20] |
CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r16838 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [FIX] newbie error commit | [22:21] |
tricia | yup figured it out after I uploaded a wrong file & had to fix & recommit (newbie error sorry will be more careful :{
how long does it cache password info ??? I only had to enter it the first time | [22:21] |
luciash | i have no idea now, since i became developer i remember we had to send the public key ssh file and then it worked without providing the password anymore
but it was with cvs and it's so long i don't remember exactly how it is with svn :-p | [22:25] |
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tricia | thanks, I used cvs before too so I need to tweak my knowledge
ciao | [22:32] |
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CIA-71 | tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r16839 10/trunk/tiki-admin_include_gal.php: [FIX] added alt tag to image ref http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1347 | [22:51] |
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SEWilco2 | luciash: I just trust the svn Force. The cache is powerful and all things flow through it. :-) | [23:01] |
luciash | *g* | [23:01] |
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luciash | ROFL: http://zombo.com/ | [23:07] |
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Iramon | nn @ll | [23:18] |
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