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marclaportepolom
luci & I are burning the midnight oil at TikiFest
while the youngsters are either sleeping or out partying :-) 		[01:22]
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the partying crew is back and now sound asleep [01:57]
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marclaporteyo slordjette [02:45]
slordjetteHey Barça-boy [02:46]
marclaportehehe
tomorrow (in a few hours), we'll work on: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Workspace+Roadmap#Related_wishes 		[02:52]
slordjetteEverything going well?
Will there be a video broadcast? 		[02:58]
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chibaguyI wonder why wikiplugin_box.php adds a wrapping table for a box that doesn't have the float argument. I took out the table tags and seem to still get the same box. [06:55]
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NatrhonI have made a new page -> foo.php If I make this {button href="foo.php?iType=$iType" _text="{tr}Remove Filters{/tr}"} the button points to the URL of the visualized page, not to the href... why? How can I fix it? Thanks
Probably I have to add foo.php into a db table, but don't know where and how, I'm completely new at twiki... 		[07:15]
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gferreirahello tiki world [07:34]
Natrhonhello gferreira [07:34]
gferreirajust installed a new tiki site. i am getting a blank screen when trying to change look&feel
in tiki-admin.php?page=look
same for tiki-admingroups.php 		[07:34]
Natrhonsorry... I'm here to have answers too :) [07:35]
gferreirano prblm :-) [07:36]
chibaguygferreira, the usual cause of blank screen is not enough php memory. [07:36]
gferreirathanks chibaguy. will google for "increasing php memory hot to" [07:37]
Natrhonchibaguy, have you got an answer for me too, perhaps?
:) 		[07:38]
chibaguySome info here on php memory: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements%20and%20Setup
sorry Natrhon, I have no idea. 		[07:39]
Natrhon:S ok, np, thanks, I'll wait.. [07:40]
gferreirathanks a lot chibaguy [07:44]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: How to remove a profile - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34190 [07:46]
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Natrhonsorry, router crashed :P
Someone knows the answer to my previous question? :) 		[08:04]
luciashNatrhon: welcome, first this is tikiwiki project, not twiki
Natrhon: second, you try to put smarty syntax in php page, imho it's not the way 		[08:10]
Natrhonnono the {button etc is into the corresponding foo.tpl [08:12]
luciashNatrhon: ah, you mean you put it in another tpl, ok [08:12]
Natrhonyes [08:12]
luciashwell
i am not sure, is the param href correct ? did you $smarty->assign the variable iType ? 		[08:12]
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Natrhonyes that vars works perfectly in other parts of the tpl
^var
what I get exactly as url is:
tikisite/foo.php?iType=16&order=location#main
that is the url I'm in with all the GET vars I have set
I expected to have
tikisite/foo.php?iType=16#main
according to my href... 		[08:15]
luciashsorry, no idea then [08:19]
Natrhonthere is a table in the db with all the tiki's object (type, name, url, etc)... it is possible that a page that is not listed into that table couldn't be referenced? [08:23]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20470 10/trunk/tiki-pagehistory.php: [FIX] View history permission was only checked at the global level [09:09]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20472 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-assistant.tpl: [ENH] minor text enhancements [10:27]
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20473 10/trunk/modules/ (mod-assistant.php mod-func-assistant.php): [ENH] move Assistant module to new module style [10:32]
chealerdoing "assign perms automatically needs to be removed (add new category) [10:33]
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xavitoctoc
xavi finaly got some time to log in again to irc, while sitting in a relaxed place and creating a new profile for workspaces, with Regis :-) 		[10:36]
chibaguyhi xavi
Is there a way to _remove_ a profile? 		[10:45]
xavihi gary! :-)
answer from marclaporte: "create a profile with the oposite settings"
but this will not work for deleting objects
chibaguy: does it answer your question? 		[10:47]
chibaguyI thought before that this is a problem. And today someone asked in the tw.o forum. I don't think normal users can be expected to uninstall by creating another profile.
(not so sure how many devs could do it ;-) ) 		[10:51]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20474 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Repair RSS basic auth and permission granting [10:51]
xavi:-) yes a fully agree :-) Yours was my answer to marc 5 min ago when he told me that :-)
chibaguy: well, I'm right now trainning a new profile-techie (Regis) right now... creating a profile for a new workspace
step by step... :-) 		[10:51]
chibaguyThat's cool. [10:52]
xaviprofile creation - process should become exponential at somme point... [10:53]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20475 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] categories: remove "Assign permissions automatically" (not needed anymore with perms-take2 perf enhancement) [10:53]
chibaguyBut I think there needs to be a rollback or undo feature for profiles. It's a huge usability problem that this isn't easily possible. [10:53]
xaviwe just need to push it a bit more forward, until some day the we start to be at the steep part of the slope upwards :-)
until we have a better profiler-tool (like the one Ben and Aldo created at their ws branch, but extended)
chibaguy: I agree. 		[10:54]
chealerchibaguy: not really. if there was an opposite, but that's not always the case, and even then. you don't "add" a profile, you apply one, so you can't "remove" one. you'd need an "undo" feature. so, unless you have backups, it's not possible. [10:54]
xaviI'll tell that again in person to the right people in this TikiFest [10:54]
chibaguyThe profile installation process needs to be aware of the state before the profile is installed, and be able to return to it, if requested.
maybe some kind of flag for "already existing" or else "new", for each change. 		[10:55]
xavichealer: but there could be some engine to create an opposite profile on the fly, ...
... and have it ready in tiki to apply the opposite when needed (and if needed)
... ini order to make tiki more usable and intuitive, etc 		[10:56]
chealerchibaguy: you *could* do a backup of global preferences, which would let you do a partial undo... but that's certainly not done yet [10:56]
chibaguybut the opposite isn't always the desired case. Sometimes a site already has, for example, a certain permission. If the new profile also has that perm specified, undoing the profile shouldn't remove the perm, if it was there before the install. [10:57]
chealerxavi: in some cases. for example, the profile sets some preference to "y", then the opposite is "n". but it doesn't only deal with boolean values. [10:57]
chibaguyThis is why awareness is needed somehow, I think. [10:57]
chealers/it/profiles/
yes, and there's also the problem chibaguy explains 		[10:57]
chibaguyAlso I don't think it's easy to know what a profile installation is doing. A site admin could 'undo' the profile manually if there was a list of the changes the profile install made.
(or was about to make)
(thinking about how apps are installed on an operating system, typically there is a dialog of what will be done, and also there is a remove feature - these are expected by users.) 		[11:00]
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chealerchibaguy: there is such a list [11:15]
chibaguygood. that'd be really helpful. [11:15]
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chibaguyOn the admin profiles page, I see the yaml scripts for a profile before clicking its install button. Is there something else than this? [11:20]
lphuberdeaunot really, sometimes there is a form to fill up some user input [11:21]
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chibaguyI imagine the profile's wiki page(s) outside of the yaml boxes could have such a list but I guess it'd have to be done manually, like comments or docs. [11:22]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20478 10/trunk/tiki-blog_post.php: [FIX] Removing some really old permission checks [11:42]
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xavichibaguy? [11:57]
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Rux!help [11:59]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [11:59]
Ruxhi everybody [12:00]
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RuxIt's about a week i have installed tikiwiki 3.0 and i'm getting issues on issues so I'm thinking about moving to another system
but before doing this let's try to see those issues with you
1) often at the bottom of the page appears: Allowed memory size exhausted....+ in Unknown on line 0
2) often appears a blank page... or a page reporting: tikiwiki X-Powered-By: PHP xxx
3) google maps: when in user profile you can set you coordinate trough map... at the end it doesn't store coordinates in user data.... so all work is simply loss 		[12:04]
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RuxThat's it is there anybody can help me in solving these issues? [12:09]
chibaguyhi xavi, sorry, was away.
Rux, blank page usually means not enough php memory. 		[12:12]
xavihi chibaguy
you (and chealer) are right about savinng default settings before installing a profile, etc...
...to allow somehow (in the future) easy "unapply" the profile to the previous state
we arrived to the same conclusion with lphuberdeau before
I'll add it to the "profile todos"
it maynot happen during this tikifestbarcelona, but nowadays lph is aware of it 		[12:12]
chibaguyok [12:15]
Ruxwhere is possible to manage php memory? [12:16]
xaviso that there is an easier way for the end user to "remove" what I've just installed (applied) [12:16]
chibaguyI sort of think that's necessary before profiles really take off.
it's hard to expect p
...people to install what can't be easily uninstalled. 		[12:16]
xavichibaguy: I agree with you
but we need a coder to "scratch our itches"... 		[12:17]
chibaguyRux, some info here: http://tikiwiki.org/art82 [12:17]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r20481 10/trunk/lib/importer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] fixing a output string in TikiImporter and some tests improvements
tikiwiki: 03axold * r20482 10/trunk/lib/jquery/treeTable/ (15 files in 5 dirs): [ADD] Added the treetable jquery plugin to trunk
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20483 10/trunk/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php: [FIX] Enabling permission checking 		[12:20]
xavichibaguy: we are talking rightnow about it marclaporte, lph and me [12:27]
chibaguy:-) [12:28]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r20484 10/trunk/lib/importer/ (index.php test/fixtures/index.php test/index.php): [ENH] adding index.php to all Tiki Importer directories to prevent directory browsing [12:29]
RuxOk i opened a ticket with my hosting provider about php poor memory config
any help about google maps?
in user profile you can set your coordinates trough map navigation... at the end it doesn't store coordinates in user data.... so all work is simply loss 		[12:32]
chibaguyHmm, I don't know. I set my user prefs (google map) quite a while back and they're still displayed correctly.
But the site is running the development trunk version of Tiki, not the released branch.
(though that may not matter)
I don't have google maps set on another site to test. 		[12:39]
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chibaguyThe user data was input months (years?) ago; I don't know if a problem has developed since then.
lat and lon are stored in my tiki_user_preferences table. 		[12:43]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20485 10/trunk/tiki-edit_blog.php: [FIX] More legacy permission checking
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20486 10/trunk/tiki-edit_image.php: [FIX] Globalization of permissions after permission check
tikiwiki: 03axold * r20487 10/trunk/ (lib/setup/prefs.php templates/header_jquery.tpl): [ADD] Enabled the treetable jquery plugin in tiki
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20488 10/trunk/tiki-edit_question_options.php: [FIX] More legacy permission checking 		[12:49]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20489 10/trunk/ (3 files): [FIX] More legacy permission checking [12:58]
chibaguyI just noticed the Google maps API key was missing from tiki-admin.php?page=gmap, so got it again from Google and input it.
"preference name: gmap_defaultz" - wonder what the story is on that spelling.
I assume the site needs a google api key for the users' maps as well.
(I mean one key for the site.) 		[13:00]
Kissakihi [13:02]
chibaguyhi Kissaki. How's the database stuff going? [13:04]
Kissakiwell... who knows :)
you'll see commits when I'm working on it 		[13:04]
chibaguy:-) [13:04]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20490 10/trunk/templates/tiki-gmap_locator.tpl: [FIX] Extra </div> tag broke page columns.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20491 10/branches/proposed/templates/tiki-gmap_locator.tpl: [bp/r20490][FIX] Extra </div> tag broke page columns on Google Map Locator (tiki-gmap_locator.php). 		[13:20]
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suihi
i like to install tikiwiki 3.1 but the installer could not connect the Profiles Repository. do i have to install s.th on my webserver to solve this?
or how can I detect what's going wrong?
there's no error message in my apache log files
last time i had this 'failure' i was not able to set permissions for grous and users 		[14:10]
RuxI'm trying to fix first memory lack.. may problems are related [14:17]
chealersui: an Internet connection...
sui: if there are problems, you can apply a profile after tiki is installed 		[14:17]
Ruxthank's for your effort... I'll come back to you asas i have news [14:18]
suichealer: that is not funny. i have an internet connection
chealer: the problem last time was, that i was not able to apply a profile after installation and i was not able to set permissions for an user or group
I'll continue with default profile 		[14:18]
chealersui: applying a profile on an installed tiki should be as reliable as during the installation [14:21]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20494 10/trunk/ (3 files): [MOD] Bulk loading for forums and removing legacy checks [14:23]
sylviegsui check your firewall
I help yesterday or Friday somebody on the same problem... it was not tiki but his server 		[14:23]
suisylvieg: there's no firewall enabled [14:25]
lphuberdeauI think that was solved since, but in 3.1, profiles require allow_url_fopen
(used to be unsafe, but since the unsafe part was made part of allow_url_include)
this is a php.ini setting 		[14:25]
suithat may be. i deactivated url_fopen
do i have to allow allow_url_include? 		[14:26]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20495 10/trunk/lib/tikidate-php5.php: [FIX] avoid timezone_open error on TimezoneIsValidId("local") [14:28]
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suilphuberdeau: great, profiles are now working [14:29]
sylvieglphuberdeau: I am not sure it is completly solved the guy yesrterday was not able to do a file_get_contents('http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/profiles')
good lphuberdeauhas the solution 		[14:29]
suity. [14:33]
Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Changing language. - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34192 [14:34]
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Ruxexcuse me I have another question, why often appears a blank page containg only message:"X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.9" on the left upper corner? [14:37]
chealerRux: can you reproduce the problem? [14:40]
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sylvieghas somebody an idea - we loast the function blob_encode that is used in wiki_attach_file?
lphuberdeau: the function in tiki3 is in /lib/tikidblib-adodb.php:function blob_encode(&$blob) { 		[14:43]
lphuberdeauhmmm.. I searched all over for a use of that one and couldn't find it
it was a passthru function if my memory serves me well
I removed it 		[14:45]
chibaguyRux, the blank page may be due to not enough PHP memory. I don't know why the "X-Powered...." is displaying. [14:45]
sylviegso do I remove the call? [14:46]
lphuberdeauyou might want to double check if it was really passthru, but I would think so [14:46]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20501 10/trunk/tiki-modules.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] user groups for modules were NULL.
tikiwiki: thanks lphuberdeau for debugging 		[15:38]
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tikiwiki: [ADD] lib/test to centralize all Tikiwiki tests (both acceptance and unit)
tikiwiki: [MOD] moving tests from lib/core and lib/importer to the new directory lib/test
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20504 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Comments lib not initialized by simply including the file 		[16:21]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20505 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX] empty message on errors (like permission denied)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20506 10/trunk/tiki-list_object_permissions.php: [FIX] This block is now obsolete 		[16:51]
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CIA-57tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20510 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] feature_mootools defaults to n for 4.0
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20511 10/trunk/templates/header_jquery.tpl: [MOD] jquery/treeTable doesn't need a pref (only 3k) and add css
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20512 10/trunk/lang/ (36 files in 36 dirs): [FIX] broken translation strings I created earlier with r20472 		[18:11]
RuxHy guys I have tiki root folder full of core.xxxx files... I know I have a memory lack issue, I asked my provider to solve it, but I would like to know if things could be related [18:20]
CIA-57tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20513 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.treetable.php:
tikiwiki: [NEW] treetable Smarty function - almost complete...
tikiwiki: Renders table from data with checkboxes - initially for admin pages for new perms, groups, category pickers - later profiles etc.
tikiwiki: Collapsible tree structure (nearly done) and sortable columns (to come)
tikiwiki: Not yet implemented anywhere, so no change of behaviour expected
tikiwiki: Tidying-up: also to be done 		[18:21]
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rux-itHy guys I have tiki root folder full of core.xxxx files... I know I have a memory lack issue, I asked my provider to solve it, but I would like to know if things could be related [18:36]
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slordjetteAny news from the TikiFest Workspaces squad? [20:50]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Interactive Translation problem with Slovak - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=34193 [22:11]
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chealslordjette: the squad is back from restaurant
still messing a bit with Internet access 		[23:45]
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