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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3905 - - Tiki7: custom modules with a space in the page name: problems - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3905	[01:57]
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dabright	I'm no doubt missing something simple, but when non-admin users are logged in to my site, their username at the top of the page is plain text (not a link). An admin's username, however, is a link to http://site.example.com/tiki/usern (where "n" is the user id). How can I get non-admin usernames to display as a link, too?	[02:46]
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marclaporte	dabright : I dunno but that bugs me too on *.tiki.org, I want links everywhere	[03:05]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03dabright * r34713 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/list_file_gallery_content.tpl: [bp/r34698,r34699][FIX] FILES plugin: Make list_file_gallery_content.tpl permission checking consistent with the plugin and the context menu template	[03:08]
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marclaporte	dabright : I think it may be a setting when new users are created	[03:33]
dabright	marclaporte: The code seems to reference some preference, but I haven't found where that is.	[03:35]
marclaporte	what is pref name? search in tiki-admin.php	[03:35]
dabright	In lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.userlink.php, $prefs['urlOnUsername']	[03:37]
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dabright	marclaporte: Nope, urlOnUsername is not it; that controls what the url is if you can get it to show up, not whether it shows up.	[03:57]
marclaporte	I have confidence you will find	[03:58]
dabright	marclaporte: Found it. If the user sets his/her "User information" preference to "Public", then the link shows up. Looks to me like the userlink smarty function was written to determine whether to show some other user's information (not the logged in user) and that using it in the context of the site header for the the user's own information is incorrect.	[04:03]
marclaporte	Is it fixable? It should be a site-wide setting if usernames are clickable to see userinfo Something like: always / user decides (default on) / user decides (default off) / never	[04:05]
dabright	Yes, that would be nice. I'm sure it is fixable; I'll make a note to look into it. No time right now.	[04:07]
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chealer	marclaporte: what do you mean by "custom modules with a space in the page name", what page?	[05:12]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34714 10/branches/7.x/ (lang/de/language.php templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl): tikiwiki: [FIX] Change "Are you sure you want to effect all pages in this sub-structure?" to "Are you sure you want to affect all pages in this sub-structure?" tikiwiki: I presume "effect" was some kind of typo. Native English speakers: please check	[05:15]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34715 10/branches/7.x/lang/fr/language.php: French: review r32951 (TikiFestQuebec7) - Finish (completes r34618)	[06:57]
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Bernard2	polom	[08:54]
Nils^	hello. What is the variable for group ids? I have a block I want to show only for groups. Something like {if $group_id == 2}..	[09:06]
Bernard2	Nils^: why id ? usually (check in some admin page code) we use the group name "Admin". If it is within a wiki page your have a Group plugin.	[09:20]
Nils^	Bernard2: I'm not sure we talk about the same thing. Let me explain I have a menu that should only show for the Group "Developers" and the admins. But its not a module but the very top menu (look and feel - Secondary site menu custom code) where I have to use {menu id=42 css=y type=horiz} directly, without a module. so I want an {if} around that to show it only for certain groups.	[09:20]
Bernard2	ok	[09:23]
Nils^	I tried the menu permissions menu to override, but there are no permissions at all and it just says "you must select at least one feature". I don't know what this has to do with menus nor can I select any features anywhere.	[09:23]
Bernard2	which version are you using ? 6.x ?	[09:23]
Nils^	6.3 not only that, I think more important it says "No rows found" in the menu permissions	[09:23]
Bernard2	I'm not that good with php, but i beleive this will be something like {if $Group == "xxx"}{else}No rows found{/if}	[09:26]
Nils^	these are two different things. The "no rows found" is the error on the menu permission site	[09:26]
Bernard2	in my case i use {if $user == "admin"}{menu id=42 css=y type=horiz}{else}{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}{/if}	[09:26]
Nils^	php is clear to me, I just don't know the variable for groups	[09:27]
Bernard2	debug should help tw internal debuger show there is $Group variable i meant the tiki debugger console.	[09:27]
Nils^	does it go with an id or string for the name?	[09:29]
Bernard2	can;t say no more as if i print the variable i got an empty string "$Group = i'm no coder, sry i can't help more	[09:31]
Nils^	yes, all my tests failed. ok, thank you!	[09:32]
Bernard2	… hey ! wait may be you can use a wiki syntax with proper tags to use the {group()} module something like: Bernard2 is looking for an exemple something like {wiki}{literal}{group(xxxxx)}xxxx{group}{/literal}{/wiki} not 100% sure about the syntax but the direction should be a starting point	[09:32]
Nils^	I hope this will work in the top menu, its not a wiki page after all do you know the docucmentation page for such things?	[09:38]
Bernard2	not really you'll have to look in tw doc. check for 2 things. The module/plugin {Group} (experiment it on a wiki page till you display what you want to proper group), second the syntax to insert it in look'n'feel. But i just see there is an exemple at the bottom of the page with the module google analytic… so it should work the same way	[09:40]
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chibaguy	polom	[10:38]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[10:47]
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chibaguy	hi ricks99 chibaguy not paying attention	[11:15]
ricks99	hiya chibaguy	[11:19]
chibaguy	I wonder why I'm not getting an empty line between paragraphs in Tiki 7. Seems like I often have to fiddle with this. Or maybe my stylesheet is wiping out the spacing (new theme). Ah, seems to be the stylesheet.	[11:20]
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SJ-Jay	Hey guy's.. have a question regarding ldap and Active directory!	[12:40]
chibaguy	Uh oh, I don't know if any ldap experts are around.	[12:43]
SJ-Jay	damn.. we are building a new company intranet based on tiki wiki.. and would like to get more user informations from our Active directory like mobile number, description, maybe picture if possible..	[12:44]
chibaguy	If you don't get answers here, I suggest subscribing to the developer mailing list. help is a little hit and miss here, depending on if people are around or not.	[12:46]
ricks99	there is also an ldap-specific support forum might want to check there to see if your issue has been discussed already	[12:46]
SJ-Jay	where do i find this forum?	[12:47]
ricks99	tiki.org/forums	[12:47]
SJ-Jay	Thanks.. will have a look at it right away :)	[12:49]
ricks99	good luck	[12:50]
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SJ-Jay	ok another question then.. i am trying to use trackers with the company directory would like the tracker to add all users from specific groups to the company directory...	[12:53]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Customized the article plugin of the WYSIWYG editor toolbar - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=41384	[14:15]
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manna	oh boy. where am I? is this a plce to get tech support? help! >help!	[15:48]
Sug4r	'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help someothercommand (1 more message)	[15:50]
sylvieg	just ask - if somebody can answer he will	[15:50]
manna	I am setting up a new tiki site. I tried to get a blog started and when I go to look at the blog I get a 404 error page. what do I need to do to correct that?	[15:51]
sylvieg	4040 for which url/ perhaps ypur ftp was nopt complete? 404 sorry	[15:51]
manna	I am clicking on the blog link in the "list blogs" admin section It is hte first blog created (only blog so far) and checked as hte home blog	[15:52]
sylvieg	did you ftp the site?	[15:54]
manna	I don't know what that means. I did not upload it from another computer. It is hosted on a hostgator server there may be acheck box I overlooked during set up? I mean, configuration	[15:55]
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sylvieg	what is the url that creates the 404 error?	[15:58]
manna	brb http://feelitreallyworks.terrificideas.net/blog1	[15:59]
sylvieg	I have a page that appears as blank page in wysiwyg editor. Any hint to debug that? this one is working http://feelitreallyworks.terrificideas.net/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1 so desactivate teh sefurl (search engine friendly url ) in admin->features or create the .htaccess	[16:00]
manna	ok...brb	[16:02]
sylvieg	manna: http://doc.tiki.org/Clean+URLs	[16:04]
manna	that did it! thank you thank you! checking out hte link. thank you again.	[16:04]
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jonnyb	polom anyone tried the category plugin in 7.x?	[16:31]
Bernard1	hi jonny	[16:35]
jonnyb	hi Bernard1	[16:36]
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RobertPlummer	polom all lphuberdeau: I'm in the middle of adding trackers to sheets and wonder how I should use objects to accomplish this. What do you think?	[16:42]
ricks99	hi jonnyb, RobertPlummer & Bernard1	[16:42]
jonnyb	hi RobertPlummer & ricks99	[16:42]
RobertPlummer	hi ricks99 hi jonnyb I mean polom :) I feel like I've been away from the Tiki community for awial. jonnyb: do you have any pointers on using the objects lib with linking trackers to sheets?	[16:43]
jonnyb	um, sounds like a good idea? :)	[16:44]
RobertPlummer	I can see past code, but that isn't always best practive. practice. lol Who has used the objects lib in the past? just lphuberdeau ?	[16:44]
jonnyb	possibly - i haven't ever done much with it	[16:46]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Is it what you'd use?	[16:47]
jonnyb	maybe have a look at attributes as well?	[16:47]
Bernard1	hey rick… (sry kids bedtime schedules on the way !) ;)	[16:50]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: I thought they were kinda one in the same, looks like I was way off. Looks more like relations lib is what I want.	[16:52]
jonnyb	i think they're related	[16:52]
sylvieg	hello guys	[17:03]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - have you looked at the category plugin recently? seems to have gone quite weird...	[17:03]
sylvieg	jonnyb: is there some cleaning after modifying the source in wysiwyg , going back to the wysiwyg screen category can be me - ... which version	[17:04]
jonnyb	7.x need to do some fixes in 6.x so was checking in 7.x first - wish i hadn't :) yes, there's an ajax post back to parse plugins etc when switching from source in wysiwyg	[17:04]
sylvieg	I have plenty of {img} .. so it can be the problem?	[17:06]
jonnyb	could be - you get an empty page?	[17:06]
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sylvieg	yes	[17:07]
jonnyb	there are some precarious preg_replaces in $editlib->parseToWysiwyg()	[17:07]
sylvieg	what is the use of your CATEGORY .. therr are plenty of uses	[17:08]
jonnyb	i fixed one a while ago that was getting a preg_error about recursion on some pages just small lists of wiki pages and/or articles now (in 7.x) they all have "Other objects of the category can be reached by the following links:" in front of them... and if you have multiple categs it lists them all, not maxRecords now (in 6.x it usually lists none of them)	[17:08]
changi	changi will upgrade dev.to in 1 hour	[17:11]
jonnyb	hi changi - thanks	[17:11]
changi	jonnyb: no problem jonnyb: sorry for RC1, was not online	[17:12]
sylvieg	jonnyb: I have so same wierd .. active option..	[17:13]
jonnyb	no probs, i muddled through ok i think sylvieg: seem to be several "###trebly:B01229" comments around there...	[17:13]
sylvieg	commit 32152?	[17:14]
jonnyb	http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=32152&view=rev yup	[17:15]
sylvieg	strange commit	[17:16]
jonnyb	seems chibaguy rolled back some of it	[17:16]
ricks99	ricks99 wonders if someone will be able to provide some stats for 7.0 (# of committers, # of code commits, etc)	[17:16]
jonnyb	dev list email on 29 jan	[17:16]
sylvieg	jonnyb: I think more rollbacks are needed	[17:16]
jonnyb	me too... think it needs doing now for 7.0 too...	[17:17]
sylvieg	I do not udnerstand why he changed categobjects_title.tpl	[17:18]
jonnyb	seems to be a new file	[17:18]
sylvieg	+1 to delete to call to a tpl in the lib	[17:20]
jonnyb	it seems to be fetching categobjects.tpl also (since 2004 at least) think i'll leave the title one in but empty the file so it can be customised easily	[17:22]
sylvieg	but the title can be probably fetch outside sylvieg wondering where it is needed	[17:22]
jonnyb	i think it's also used to list same categ objects on pages but the presentation is all messed up with the data access bit (as is often the case here! ;) )	[17:23]
sylvieg	.. it was clean in 6.x last time I tesetd	[17:24]
jonnyb	except when listing multiple categs with a low maxRecords but output is ok, yes - clean	[17:24]
ricks99	Anyone aware of the #goc webex demo for tiki currently taking place?	[17:31]
chealer	polom ricks99: no idea	[17:32]
ricks99	saw it mentiond on twitter just wondering if any tiki admins were behind it	[17:33]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34716 10/branches/7.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] rollback r32152 which adversely affected the output of wikiplugin_category which also uses this function. This restores 6.x behaviour.	[17:42]
chealer	ricks99: regarding doc.tiki.org, why does the Switch Lang module have its header in another module?	[17:51]
sylvieg	jonnyb: switching from 6 to 6 proposal fixed my whaite page in wysiwyg - You fixed something - thx	[17:51]
jonnyb	yay! thanks :)	[17:52]
ricks99	purely asesthtic reasons. i turned used notitle=y (was too big and used 2 rows)	[17:52]
chealer	jonnyb: aaah. that's good	[17:52]
ricks99	feel free to change if u prefer ricks99 was trying to "de-clutter" the page	[17:52]
chealer	ricks99: I see. the module says "Site Language: English" here	[17:57]
ricks99	chealer: odd, i thought i had turned the module title OFF	[17:58]
chealer	ricks99: sorry I meant my install has that title, which does spread on 2 lines	[18:00]
jonnyb	still there sylvieg? i was trying to get list_category_objects to do multiple categories with an AND and it looks like it's some of yours (abandoned 2006) - did you ever get it working?	[18:00]
chealer	which is big	[18:00]
ricks99	@chealer: ah... not for English. but try soe of the other languages and you'll see what i mean like i said, it was a personal preference. if youwant, feel free to change back	[18:00]
chealer	ricks99: what? I do see "Site Language: English" as title on my local 7.x	[18:01]
sylvieg	jonnyb: I do not remember - do you have the cimmit number?	[18:01]
jonnyb	6598	[18:01]
chealer	jonnyb: I believe http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/16614/trunk/templates/modules/mod-switch_lang.tpl is causing an international incident. could you comment on the necessity of having the current language in the module title? without it the title fits on a single line.	[18:02]
sylvieg	sylvieg thinks abotu unit test...	[18:02]
jonnyb	looks like some funky inner join way of getting multiple category objects on one line	[18:03]
sylvieg	sylvieg does not old commits in her mailing list - too old	[18:03]
jonnyb	no chealer, i've often thought of removing it	[18:04]
sylvieg	6598 is a merge	[18:04]
ricks99	@chealer: Sorry, but I don't undestand? Are you talking about doc.t.o., or a local install on your PC?	[18:04]
jonnyb	just found that... ancient code! :) basically the $join var never gets queried... so presumably a regression later on - i'll just see if i can fix it :)	[18:05]
chealer	ricks99: I was talking about doc but on doc the title is not shown so I looked at my local install as reference.	[18:07]
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changi	changi dev under upgrade to 7.x	[18:08]
ricks99	BTW: Marc is giving the #goc demo	[18:09]
chealer	jonnyb: Rick hid the title on doc.tiki.org because it was too big. would you oppose if I remove the language hoping to solve that?	[18:09]
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chealer	hi changi	[18:09]
jonnyb	go for it - i didn't think it was my idea	[18:09]
ricks99	+1	[18:10]
jonnyb	alternatively you can set the title of the module no?	[18:10]
chealer	jonnyb: hum, indeed	[18:10]
jonnyb	no, kil it - the module itself show which lang you're in	[18:10]
ricks99	true. but i was trying to visually keep the lang selection with the top part (in doc.t.o	[18:10]
chealer	yeah, it is redundant. I'll remove it	[18:11]
jonnyb	de-clutter is good (thanks chealer & ricks99)	[18:11]
ricks99	it is fine. just personal preference i think ricks99 just thinks the h3 for module box is HUGE ricks99 needs to work on the keyword module next	[18:11]
chealer	changi: when you upgrade dev, how hard would it be to keep a copy of it under Tiki 6 for regression identification? "legacy.dev.tiki.org"	[18:13]
jonnyb	sorry to not be around to help out with dev - i'm off out in a few mins hopefully the page of notes i made from the devtest one will help - will be back in a few hours & will check in then	[18:14]
changi	chealer: not so hard id depends if you want to have a dns record or not	[18:18]
jonnyb	with an old (locked?) database, or a shared one?	[18:19]
changi	an old one i'm unable to maintain shared one because of the db schema	[18:19]
chealer	changi: if you think it can be done in less than an hour, I think it would be worth it	[18:20]
changi	chealer: ok	[18:20]
chealer	changi: as for the DNS record - well, it is not necessary. though isn't adding a DNS record supposed to be easy?	[18:21]
changi	chealer: need to found the credential :) s/found/find changi finish updateing dev	[18:22]
chealer	changi: I see :-S sounds like 2003 jonnyb: unfortunately a custom title wouldn't be translated	[18:25]
jonnyb	back later, bye for now	[18:35]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34717 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] Switch Language module: remove language from module title, preventing the module title from spreading on 2 lines. partially reverts r16614. tikiwiki: prefix parameter is now ignored. tikiwiki: thanks Rick Sapir	[18:36]
ricks99	:-)	[18:36]
chealer	ricks99: should I use a custom title for now?	[18:37]
ricks99	sure, but i still think (overall) the h3 module tille is much too large	[18:38]
chealer	ricks99: for this specific module or all modules?	[18:38]
ricks99	all, in fivealive theme, at least.a again, just my $0.02 take it for what it is worth	[18:39]
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chealer	ricks99: I have little judgment on that. it could be discussed with Gary	[18:40]
ricks99	easy enough to override with css. no big deal	[18:43]
chealer	ricks99: done	[18:45]
ricks99	it just looks HUGE to me. maybe just my eyes	[18:47]
chealer	at the moment for me modules are not well distributed between columns too much left	[18:50]
Bernard1	Is there a way to hide the admin contribution to a page ? (some page require the admin to correct them BUT he is not really part of the contributors, make sense to hide him from the contributors list)	[18:56]
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changi	chealer: legacydev is online	[19:22]
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chealer	thank you changi!	[19:39]
changi	chealer: you're welcome database is from tomorow	[19:47]
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chealer	changi: from tomorrow - that's good. could you put next year's then? :-)	[20:11]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r34718 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Sheet feature that links sheets with trackers through relate objects. This feature is buggy and will need some changes on jQuery.sheet to work right, but the hardest part is over.	[20:31]
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fabricius	Polom I have a question regarding to TABs:	[23:33]
Tiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you! Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!	[23:36]
fabricius	On doc.t.o on the HomePage the {TAB()}PlugIn is used and I do use it on one of my sites (an Intranetproject) => on doc.t.o there is no button to switch off tabs => on my site there is the button => my theme is based on fivealive with only few changes ==> I like not to use the button, not to confuse my users - anybody know how to switch off or how to deactivate? Hi Tiki\|bot - Ididnask to ask, I just phrased my question a bit circumstantial :-D If I remember right, luciash, you understand quite well to talk with the bot - isn't it?	[23:36]
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