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| cyrusae | hi. i got a slight problem: my auth runs through pam and twiki appears to get the data. but when i enter the correct data, it just gives me that error: [Mon Jul 25 13:54:15 2011] [notice] child pid 16851 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
and on the twiki a blank page, the auth aint completed | [07:02] |
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| cyrusae | anyone? ideas? | [07:59] |
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| anyone? =( pretty please with a cherry on top? | [08:18] | |
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| jonnyb | polom de France | [08:35] |
| Jyhem_laptop | Polom jonnyb : Lyon ? | [08:42] |
| jonnyb | oui
stopped raining finally! :) (hopefully) Brittany next... | [08:42] |
| Jyhem_laptop | ahhhh, great. Found anything to paint yet ? | [08:43] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r35658 10/branches/7.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] Secondary site menu dropdowns should have same appearance/behavior as main horizontal menu (text-transform, selected link and its children, etc.). | [09:31] |
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| Merbster | Anyone successfully configured XDebug remotely ? | [09:33] |
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| luciash | polom | [09:34] |
| jonnyb | polom luciash - you back home?
hi Merbster - you mean on a remote server, no - tried once, gave up (and copied the database locally) | [09:35] |
| luciash | yo jonnyb | [09:36] |
| Merbster | *sigh* | [09:36] |
| luciash | yep, back home sweet home :) | [09:36] |
| Merbster | I have a nasty bug in my code and I simply can't find it. I need singlestepping :P | [09:36] |
| luciash | got error 413 anyone while editing articles (cms feature) ?
luciash waves his hand and cries "me, yes me" ! | [09:37] |
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| luciash | jonnyb: thanks for 6.4 and others :) seems like you enjoyed strassbourg a lot with the fireworks and beers this time | [09:42] |
| jonnyb | no probs - i'm still in France travelling so hence the on and off attention to 7.1 | [09:43] |
| luciash | ah, wow, cool :) where r u now ? | [09:44] |
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| Merbster | I got it working... :)
Xdebug the problem was the loopback network adapter I had installed when we had Oracle ORDBMS in school... Only took my 6 hours.... pfff :P "only" | [09:46] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Wysiwyg editor - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41863 | [09:55] |
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| Merbster | is there a way I can see all the articles/blogs/whatever I wrote on the wiki?
I forgot the subject but I know I am the author :P | [10:05] |
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| luciash | hi chibaguy | [10:37] |
| chibaguy | hi luciash
haven't seen you for a while here I guess you're busy these days. | [10:38] |
| luciash | yep, was on vacation
at friends in Intaly Italy | [10:39] |
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| luciash | but busy as always anyway ;) | [10:40] |
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| chibaguy | sounds good | [10:42] |
| luciash | chibaguy: how is it going in japan these days ?
any good news ? i hope so as it is not in media's scope anymore :-p | [10:42] |
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| chibaguy | luciash: well, they are still working to contain the nuclear contamination, cool down the reactors, etc. There doesn't seem to be immediate danger, but polllution in the areas near the plants will be a problem for a long time. Some people, especially with small children, have moved away of course.
The government as usual is spending most of its time fighting among members instead of addressing the problems. Local governments are more together, but don't have the resources the central government has. Still quite a few people in shelters or temporary housing; at that level the government has kinda failed. but it's hard because there's not much available land for housing in the area. also getting rid of all the debris is a big problem. It needs to be sorted by hand, pretty much. | [10:52] |
| luciash | chibaguy: i see... it's unbelievable how long it takes and how sensitive is the cooling process of the fuel rods to prevent the core meltdown ... no wonder ppl want to keep away from the nuclear energy now after such experience
chibaguy: and the debris must take months to years to clear off. must be hard to think a big quake can come again anytime | [10:57] |
| chibaguy | yeah, they say it is now more likely for the tokyo area to have a big quake, as the strain has moved along the fault toward us. I'm glad I'm not commuting each day.
one problem about the quake-hit area is that the population there is generally rather elderly, so it's hard for them to adapt to new situations. | [11:01] |
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| ricks99 | polom y'all | [11:05] |
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| chibaguy | hi ricks99 | [11:21] |
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| ricks99 | hiya chibaguy | [11:25] |
| j0n3 | Hi. Preview on wiki pages doesn't work for me now. What should I check? thank you! | [11:26] |
| ricks99 | @j0n3: what is your Tiki version? | [11:28] |
| j0n3 | 6.3 | [11:28] |
| ricks99 | Do you have JS enabled on your browser? | [11:29] |
| j0n3 | yes | [11:29] |
| ricks99 | Using Wiki or WYSIWYG editor? | [11:29] |
| j0n3 | ajax works except preview
wiki sorry just work now... just enabling jquery :( | [11:29] |
| ricks99 | glad to help :) | [11:30] |
| j0n3 | thank you!
i didn't say before: Thank you for working on this great project! I'm in love with tiki since first time checking wiki alternatives | [11:30] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 agrees... Tiki rocks. :-) | [11:32] |
| j0n3 | it's the greatest by far | [11:32] |
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| jonnyb | re
luciash: i'm near Lyon at the moment (sorry for the delay, France===lunch) | [11:37] |
| cyrusae | i got a slight problem: my auth runs through pam and twiki appears to get the data. but when i enter the correct data, it just gives me that error: "[Mon Jul 25 13:54:15 2011] [notice] child pid 16851 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)" and on the twiki a blank page, the auth aint completed | [11:41] |
| jonnyb | cyrusae: segmentation fault is sometimes fixed by updating versions of everything (php etc) - you all up to date? | [11:43] |
| cyrusae | yup
well, as up to date as debian with backports can be... | [11:43] |
| jonnyb | no way of telling which file?
anything in the apache error.log? | [11:44] |
| cyrusae | thats the only thing. two processes dying and nothing else
i also wished i had more info | [11:45] |
| jonnyb | hmm, not familiar with pam and tiki - what version tiki you on? | [11:45] |
| cyrusae | 7.0 | [11:45] |
| jonnyb | don't think there would be any difference in 7.1 or trunk afaik, sorry - stuck | [11:50] |
| cyrusae | mm okay
thanks anyway | [11:50] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35659 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (codemirror_tiki.js mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js): [FIX] Got codemirror back on it's feet for tikiwiki, much better integration for 2, and much faster overall | [13:24] |
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| jph_ | guys
waazaaaa | [13:37] |
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| chibaguy | What does it mean when you get an "Invalid old password" error when changing the admin password in a new Tiki installation? Just happened to me in a branch 7 install. | [13:38] |
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| chibaguy | How can the old password be invalid when it's a new install? | [13:39] |
| SJ-Jay | does anyone know why i'm getting a blank text when using {{$user}} in webservice plugin? | [13:39] |
| lphuberdeau | SJ-Jay, the webservices use a separate smarty instance that does not expose the user variable
it really only provides the result from the webservice | [13:40] |
| ricks99 | having an odd issue in tiki 6 LTS.... after logging in, when accessing pages via full URL (tiki-index.php?page=foo) things are fine. but if users attempt to access via SEFURL, tiki thinks they are not logged in. Any ideas? | [13:42] |
| SJ-Jay | damn..
i'm trying to call a webservice that needs the username from the logged on user to show result specific for that person | [13:42] |
| lphuberdeau | can you get the webservice to do that filtering for you? | [13:45] |
| Bernard1 | hi all | [13:45] |
| Merbster | lphuberdeau, it is filtering for us yes. | [13:45] |
| lphuberdeau | or is it good enough if the filtering is done browser-side? | [13:45] |
| Merbster | lphuberdeau, we just need to pass the logged on user as a filter parameter
the initials even not even password (tiki usernames are initials) | [13:45] |
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| chibaguy | About my "old admin password invalid" in new install, I had 7 db errors on installation. I reinstalled the db and the 2nd time had no errors and no problem with password. | [13:46] |
| jonnyb | hi chibaguy (from a little while ago) - Trebly said he had a problem like this a few days ago, and it ended up that the minimum password length field had got set to 6, making the default one invalid - but it sounded like he'd done it my importing old prefs from another tiki into a new one
ah, that's even better then! :) | [13:47] |
| SJ-Jay | so there are no ways to "call" the initials inside a webservice plugin? | [13:50] |
| lphuberdeau | SJ-Jay: you can probably pass it to the service through the input (webservice plugin?)
{user} or {{user}} should be available in wiki syntax, or maybe it needs wiki argument variables to be enabled | [13:51] |
| SJ-Merbster | lphuberdeau, we simply forgot to enable wiki argument variables in the produciton wiki... | [13:55] |
| lphuberdeau | ah, I thought the issue was inside the rendering | [13:56] |
| SJ-Merbster | Well... it is. lphuberdeau but atleast we got the generation of the url for the webservice to work with {user} | [13:57] |
| lphuberdeau | so it was only a config issue? | [14:01] |
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| lphuberdeau | tip of the day: maintain a profile to keep track of the needed configurations between dev and production | [14:01] |
| SJ-Jay | wiki argument variables did the job! thx lphuberdeau | [14:02] |
| SJ-Merbster | lphuberdeau, I will remember that. :) | [14:04] |
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| chibaguy | Does anybody have an opinion about the term "freetag" vs. "tag"? I don't see "freetag" much (at all, really) at web sites, so suggest renaming the feature to "Tags". | [14:24] |
| ricks99 | +1 from me. and get rid of the 'folksonomy' references, too. imho | [14:25] |
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| chibaguy | I think those were meaningful at one time, but they didn't really stick the way tags has. | [14:26] |
| lphuberdeau | +1 | [14:27] |
| chibaguy | freetag always reminds me of freitag, and I don't even speak German. ;-) | [14:27] |
| ricks99 | lol "free"tags always make me think... where are the non-free ones? | [14:28] |
| chibaguy | :-) | [14:29] |
| lphuberdeau | it's yet an other example of tiki using the library name in the front-end | [14:29] |
| chibaguy | right. | [14:29] |
| lphuberdeau | they were a technological decision away from being called potatotags | [14:30] |
| ricks99 | makes perfect sense for devs.... less than perfect for end-users | [14:30] |
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| chealer | haha
proprietarytags? | [14:31] |
| lphuberdeau | deliciousliketags | [14:32] |
| ricks99 | now you're just being silly ;-) | [14:32] |
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| chibaguy | I kinda like the term 'proprietags', chealer, but am not sure of the use case. | [14:43] |
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| chibaguy | Probably Apple's legal team uses it a lot: "App store" is one of the company's proprietags..." | [14:45] |
| chealer | "This is Chealer's page - no editing without permission!" | [14:45] |
| chibaguy | ah, ok. let's work that into tiki 8. | [14:46] |
| ptdw | Hi, I upgraded an old tiki-1.9 to 6.4 (LTS) .. but now within admin panel I get hints that I use an outdated database version.
how do I have to understand this? | [14:46] |
| lphuberdeau | ptdw, go back to the installer and try updating again, after the database update, it might tell you some errors occured
it's very likely that they do not matter, it kind of happens from very old versions | [14:48] |
| ptdw | I did that multiple times, only on database error remains ... some duplicate key in a table | [14:49] |
| lphuberdeau | if they seem to be about duplicate tables or duplicate fields or such, you can safely ignore them (using the checkboxes available) | [14:49] |
| ptdw | yes i did | [14:49] |
| lphuberdeau | if you do it for all patches, that should remove the messages in the admin panel | [14:50] |
| chibaguy | I often get the "database out of date" message even right after an update, so I have come to ignore it. On my Windows laptop, I think it always appears. | [14:50] |
| ptdw | ok, thanks I'll try again the installer | [14:51] |
| chibaguy | (I'm speaking of the message on the admin-general page.) | [14:51] |
| ptdw | mine was on tiki-admin.php
guess it is the same? | [14:52] |
| lphuberdeau | should be | [14:53] |
| ptdw | I thought after some iterations it could also relate to mysql version which is a bit outdated 5.0.x | [14:53] |
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| chibaguy | I wish there was a wiki admin option: "Don't display page title on Homepage." It's easy enough to use CSS, but I think a lot of websites probably don't want that text at the top of the index page even if they use page titles in general.
(easy enough to use CSS to hide the pagetitle on that page, I mean) For info wikis, etc., it's fine, but if it's a brochure-type site or others, it detracts from the presentation. imo | [15:03] |
| ricks99 | @chibaguy: or use a different wiki page as home: Welcome, Company name, etc. | [15:05] |
| chibaguy | Well, that could be done, too, but I don't want any name up there. | [15:05] |
| ricks99 | ah | [15:05] |
| chibaguy | I guess, in a sense, the site title functions as the page name of the site's front page, but I didn't think about the semantics of it, actually. | [15:07] |
| lphuberdeau | ptdw: upgrading mysql would sure help generally, although not with the duplicate errors, 5.0 is not even supported by MySQL anymore unless I am mistaken | [15:10] |
| chibaguy | News portals, for example; I think there generally isn't a page title per se, on the front page. | [15:10] |
| lphuberdeau | actually, still supported on some platforms | [15:12] |
| ptdw | nice, i checkboxed to ignore some duplicate error, now database version message disappeared | [15:14] |
| lphuberdeau | that would be the expected behavior, yes | [15:16] |
| ptdw | lphuberdeau: ok, I'll ask for a recent mysql version | [15:17] |
| lphuberdeau | 5.0 was released somewhere in 2004, that's a long time ago
although the last release was in 2010, so not too bad 5.0.91 makes our 1.9.11 look quite small | [15:19] |
| nkoth | is there still a merge from 7 to trunk? | [15:22] |
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| lphuberdeau | nkoth, I think so | [15:23] |
| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35660 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php:
tikiwiki: [ENH][FIX] There are 2 use cases for rating field, one in a list and one where tikiwiki: you are viewing a single tracker item. If you are viewing a list, you really tikiwiki: want the itemId to disappear after rating, if you are in a single item you want tikiwiki: to preserve the single item. previously the code only supported the first case tikiwiki: where the itemId always disappeared | [15:37] |
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| luciash | chibaguy: i still think the CSS is the cheapest solution
(in terms of resources etc.) | [15:47] |
| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35661 10/branches/7.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [FIX]IMG: do no generate a link if thumb=y and link=''
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35662 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Rating not registering when done from trackerlist plugin after recent changes to Rating field | [15:50] |
| chealer | chibaguy: I tend to agree we should revise the name. I remember we discussed that term among French translators, don't remember what we said/decided but yes, Freetags is not commons.
s/commons/common/ Tags is apparently what should be used ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_%28metadata%29 ) | [15:55] |
| lphuberdeau | lphuberdeau wishes he could use PHP 5.3 right now | [15:58] |
| luciash | lphuberdeau: what prevents you ? | [15:59] |
| lphuberdeau | well, if I commit something using a 5.3 feature, it won't work on 5.2 | [15:59] |
| luciash | :) | [15:59] |
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| luciash | what about Keywords instead of Tags ? | [16:00] |
| ricks99 | we already use Keywords (for adding metawords on per-wiki page basis. I vote for "tags" | [16:01] |
| lphuberdeau | I prefer tags as well | [16:02] |
| luciash | ok, even YouTube uses "Tags" | [16:02] |
| lphuberdeau | keywords is something people used in 1995
in the days of AltaVista | [16:02] |
| nkoth | I will vote for Tags | [16:03] |
| luciash | lphuberdeau: yep, that's why it is "free to use" word now ;) | [16:03] |
| ricks99 | altavista.... rick yearns for the old Prodigy days.... | [16:03] |
| nkoth | we had a discussion recently and Tags is best. Keywords sounds like something that is added by the admin/priviledged people/generated by search indexing bots, and not something addable by users | [16:03] |
| luciash | luciash votes for killing the Keywords feature in Tiki as useless ;) | [16:03] |
| lphuberdeau | oh yes, that one is useless | [16:04] |
| nkoth | what keywords feature? | [16:04] |
| ricks99 | -1 for killing keywords. It is the only way (I know of) to artificailly weight search results | [16:04] |
| lphuberdeau | was one of the mozilla contribs | [16:04] |
| luciash | meta keywords | [16:04] |
| lphuberdeau | freetags are incorporated in search content too | [16:04] |
| luciash | is ignored by search bots these days
only meta description has some weight | [16:04] |
| ricks99 | y, but freetags are always included. with keywords you can decide on a page-by-page basis | [16:05] |
| lphuberdeau | tags are also written in that meta keyword field | [16:05] |
| nkoth | meta keywords was purely a SEO thing, I think it's not the same as the artificaially weight search results thing | [16:05] |
| luciash | i repeat: meta keywords is useless these days | [16:05] |
| nkoth | luciash:: your call :) I am not all that up to date on the latest SEO trends. | [16:06] |
| lphuberdeau | I just noticed my brain automatically translates SEO to bullshit | [16:06] |
| ricks99 | maybe for google and the like, but not for internal use searches | [16:06] |
| luciash | internal use searches ? wth is that ? | [16:06] |
| nkoth | ricks99 seems to have a valid point | [16:06] |
| ricks99 | ie. for my google CSE. i can rank results any way i want
the old tiki search, and so on | [16:07] |
| luciash | ah, sorry, i don't know CSE internals... ok | [16:07] |
| ricks99 | im just saying, i think it is still valid (and different from tags)
my vote is -1, fwiw | [16:08] |
| luciash | old tiki search is obsolete like the meta keywords tag ;) | [16:08] |
| chibaguy | chibaguy gets iSleep proprietag and says g'night all. :-) | [16:12] |
| Bernard1 | "freetags are always included. with keywords you can decide on a page-by-page basis" +1 on this | [16:13] |
| lphuberdeau | well, you can pretty much select the tags, so I don't really get the difference
tags work everywhere, keywords only apply to wiki pages | [16:13] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35663 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Nearly complete rewrite of the tikiwiki syntax parser, it is now MUCH more tikiwiki: stable, borrowed from the html and past wiki syntax parser, we now have specific tikiwiki: areas for wikisyntax that starts at the beginning of the line, syntax that can tikiwiki: exist within and end within a line, and also plugins support. Plugin support tikiwiki: needs a bit more TLC because it was adapted from html objects, but we are much tikiwiki: closer here than we ever were with codemirror 1. | [18:24] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35664 10/trunk/ (12 files in 9 dirs): [MOD] Allow to synchronize (one way for now) a remote tracker locally | [18:51] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35665 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js: [FIX] tikiwiki codemirror mode, sol items and plugin parsing, looks nearly 100% now | [18:52] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35666 10/trunk/lib/ (codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js tiki-js.js):
tikiwiki: [FIX] plugin attributes with now quotes highlighting tikiwiki: [FIX] Codemirror resize fix | [20:10] |
| tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35667 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js: [FIX] plugin attributes with now quotes highlighting, forgot to return tokenize | [20:15] | |
| tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35668 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js: [FIX] needed better detection altogether, to return tokenize was premature | [20:22] | |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35669 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tikiwiki/tikiwiki.js: [FIX] For the quote "=" and the object assigner (guessing on name) "=>" in plugins attribute highlighting | [21:20] |
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| CIA-88 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35670 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX][MOD] Make jquery-json default on, and rework r35603 fix to use jquery-json instead of json2.js to avoid adding yet another lib. Dev note: use $.toJSON instead of JSON.stringify.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35671 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [ENH] allow autoshowing of comment forms through autoshow css class (preference to turn this on coming soon to comment templates) | [21:56] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Forums - Permissions for Sections? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41868 | [23:49] |
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