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fabriciusrehi Loll78
Loll78: sorry, before my pc went down
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Loll78np. mine has switched in standby [0:21]
fabriciushehe
what was your problem?
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Loll78for the standby turning or the spreadsheets? [0:22]
fabriciusspreadsheets
ah that was it+
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Polom,
Do somebody have done something (or know if somebody have done or looked to) the support of Tiki wiki Marked Up Language to use with Mylyn WikiText. This probably by the use of the feature Markup Languages extension of WikiText ? Or something else (there others ways)?
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fabriciusI do not know [0:58]
Jyhemfabricius: he wasn't here in july [1:20]
fabriciusyes I know
but he is there now
it was just a joke
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Trebly<fabricius>Hi, thanks. The way has two objects :
1- to be able to bring to tikiwiki docs made in ECLIPSE context Mylyn Wikitext the integrated solution
2- future enhancements of Tiki in project Management, here software management
I program to be in Strasbourg (I was in London and failed in Paris organization) but I could not go
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fabriciushmmm [1:42]
Trebly<fabricius> Is it somewhere a document ? [1:42]
fabriciusTrebly: -> query
Jyhem are you still there?
Jyhem I have a problem with pre-9 trunk SVN
cannot install neither upgrade the database anymore - installer seems broken
I am wondering, if that is an issue, or just a local insident
i tried a few times on my server with existing and new database
SVN was working until before yesterday
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r40098 10/trunk/lib/core/ (4 files in 4 dirs): No changes - code styling only (seen on quality.tiki.org)
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polom
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Loll78Hi.
I think I have found the problem why I was not able to edit my spreadsheets.
In Look & Feel -> Customization -> Custom HTML <head> Content : I had entered the code "<script type="text/javascript" src="lib/ASCIIMathML.js"></script>" in order to get working the displaying for mathematical formula"
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hi all
some probs with doc.tiki.org?
( ! ) Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/local/doc.tiki.org/www/lang/en/language.php on line 6346
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sylviegdev.tiki.org is white page for me [13:16]
fabriciuschecking
for me aswell
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fabriciussylvieg: the Tikisites are all running on SVN, right? [13:21]
sylviegI do not know -
my trunk is broken too
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fabriciusSVN?
I mentioned a problem with the installer yesterday
trying again this morning and have a mail to the devlist prepared
just wanted to check a 8.x branch - installer before
since yesterday, in the moment I SVN up to the newest trunk I have no access to an existing or new site anymore
maybe it is the same fault? what do you think?
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sylviegsmarty wants to write to / instead of .. [13:27]
Loll78fabricius: I found the error of my spreadsheets-problem. [13:29]
fabriciusah ok - tell me pls
sylviegu: what do you suggest that we do now? are you trying to find out? a mail to the infrastructure team - what I think we do anyway
sylvieg: "are you trying to find out?" -> meaning, do you think you can fix it?
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sylviegI do not have time yet
sorry
breakfast
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fabriciushehe [13:33]
Loll78fabricius: In Look & Feel -> Customization -> Custom HTML <head> Content : I had entered the code "<script type="text/javascript" src="lib/ASCIIMathML.js"></script>" in order to get working the displaying for mathematical formula" [13:33]
fabriciusI'll try to inform the infrastructure team first thing then
Loll78: ah and this custom code broke ist?
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Loll78I do not think that the custom code is broken.
is's perhaps not the right way how to include correct displaying of mathematical formula
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fabriciusLoll78: no, I dod not mean that -> it just does not comply in some way with the Tiki or with the Tiki spreadsheet
yes, thte I meant
mv thte the
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r40101 10/branches/8.x/lang/en/language.php: [FIX]lang: syntax was broken [13:42]
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changi_awayfabricius: dev/doc are not down,
it's the last commit in language that break everything
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fabriciusOk, what is the problem with dev
ah
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changi_awayi'm currently revert commit locally [14:25]
fabriciusok
cool
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changi_awaybut we need to revert that one
and i think it's the same in trunk
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fabriciusdid anybody else realis an issue with the installer, like I did? [14:26]
changi_awaydon't know [14:26]
fabriciusmv realis realise
I can only check on my server
I am trying again right nor and same time with other versions
mv nor now
sorry for miss spelling
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changi_awayno problem [14:31]
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changi_awayJoernOtt: i think you are cdrwhite on sf.net no ?
JoernOtt: if so, maybe your last commit broke a lot of things
JoernOtt: i'm currently revert it on 8.x
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40102 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): no changes - quality [14:39]
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40103 10/branches/8.x/ (49 files in 49 dirs): [FIX] Revert commit 40095 - too much syntax errors [14:45]
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tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40107 10/trunk/lib/core/Multilingual/Aligner/BilingualAligner.php: [FIX] Syntax error
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fabriciuschangi_away: I do not know, how busy you are, but could you have a quick look, if the commit you are reverting in Branches is in Trunk aswell?
changi_away: or show me, how I find out myself - what I would have to look for?
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changi_awayfabricius: it is in trunk but it's working [15:30]
fabriciusok [15:30]
changi_awayfabricius: you're problem is in installer ? [15:30]
fabriciusI am this moment trying to find out how to checkout a certain verion
yes installer
I think this problem - if I am right - is not only my problem
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changi_awaywhere in installer ? [15:31]
fabriciusat the point, where you either upgrade or install the database
should be point 5 or so
what happens is, that you ar kind of "thrown" out of the installer
you can reenter by typing in the browsers adressfield and finish installation by bypassing this point
the db IS populated
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changi_awayfabricius: yes have the same issue [15:33]
fabriciusbut when you try to access the website you get a redirect error
ok
then at least it is not a weird missconfiguration
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40108 10/trunk/ (15 files in 4 dirs): no changes - quality [15:34]
fabriciusI feared I would be crazy
thx for confirming
changi_away: can I help in any kind?
testing s.th. specific or so, for ex.
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changi_awayfabricius: for now i'm playing with die [15:46]
fabriciuswhat is die? [15:46]
changi_awayecho "toto"; die;
php stopped at the line :)
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fabriciuschangi_away: ah ... ;-) [15:50]
changi_awayfabricius: could you try remove lib/core/Tracker/Field/index.php [16:9]
fabriciusyou mean in my installation on my server? [16:9]
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changi_away: [16:10]
changi_awayyes
fabricius:
:)
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fabriciuschangi_away: I have this moment an 8 branches checkout running - give me just a few minutes. As soon as it is finished, I do another pre-9 trunk checkout and do what you asked for
changi_away: do you know, if I can do two checkouts from the same computer (opening a second terminal) in the same server account (in another folder) -> local ubuntu and ubuntu webserver
then I would start it right now
running checkout now changi_away -> will report straight away (sorry that I had deleted the directory before)
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changi_awayfabricius: yes you can do 2 checkout
in //
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fabriciusthx - nearly finished now [16:25]
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changi_away: installer running now
changi_away: http://test.mydomain.de/index.php
changi_away: removing lib/core/Tracker/Field/index.php did not help
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changi_awaylib/shipping/custom/index.php and lib/prefs/index.php
should work
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fabriciusfabricius should remove them? [16:53]
changi_awayno i'm currently making a fix [16:55]
fabriciusah
I svn up asytm (as sonn as you tell me)
mv sonn soon
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changi_awayfabricius: svn up [17:20]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40109 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Don't load index.php [17:20]
fabriciusok
running
changi_away: btw - what's with lib/core/tracker/field/index.php -> it's deleted; will svn make a new version or will I have to put it back manually?
or leave it out
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NachoMahmaDo I need to include a "Needs Review" tag if I only correct a link on a Doc page?
External link that changed
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fabriciuschangi_away: now after installing the database I am Thrown out of the installer and sent to mydomain.de/tiki-index.php, where I directly can login as admin/admin [17:26]
changi_awayso it's working :
:)
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NachoMahmahttp://tiki.org/Participate "How to Contribute to Open Source Without Coding" link changed [17:27]
fabriciuschangi_away: so it to be working generally, but a few steps are left out
mv "it to be working" "it seems to be working"
Hi NachoMahma - what do you mean with "Needs Review" -> category or so? If you fixed it and it is working now instead of before, than you already reviewed it
So you can tag it before you start and untag it after finishing, what is literally just a mental 1 second virtual moment
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NachoMahmaOK. I thouhgt maybe someone else would need to review. If I have already reviewed, then I won't mark [17:30]
fabriciusare you sure, that what you did is alright?
and do you think everybody would be happy with what you did?
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NachoMahmaThe link works now if that is what you mean by "did is alright" [17:31]
fabriciusif it did not work before, than you fixed a broken link - thanks for reviewing ;-) [17:32]
NachoMahmaI'm new and just need a little feedback [17:32]
fabriciussure - thatÅ› why I answer this way
there are still parts, where I myself need feedback - we are a huge community and the youngers do not want to damage the work of the olders, even the youngers might bring in new ideas or figure out unseen issues
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NachoMahmaI'm not used to being able to make changes to a major database without someone else OKing it. :) [17:33]
fabriciuswe have to care for each other and we do so
di you see the video of the TikiFest Barcelona 2010?
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changi_awayfabricius: another try [17:34]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r40110 10/trunk/installer/installlib.php: [FIX] Continue if it's index.php [17:34]
NachoMahmaNo. The only vids I have seen (so far) are a few involved with installation [17:34]
fabriciusJonny is been asked there what he enjoyed in the community
and Marc in an interviuew recently pointed out our doocracy
changi_away: ok
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changi_awayNachoMahma: what do you want to modify on database ? [17:35]
fabriciushehe
information system
huge workspace
big real project
not mysql database ;-)
changi_away: I have to leave for a few minutes ... let's say in about 5 min ... and need about 20 minutes/ half an hour <= do you have s.th. for me to do before I leave?
changi_away: I can go now aswell and come back earlier
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changi_awayfabricius: you can try the installer
it's fixed for me
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fabriciuschangi_away: OK I do now [17:39]
NachoMahmaNot modifying _a_ database, just a collection of data in general
"Modifying the content" would have been more precise
I'm surprised that I can change just about anything without being vetted or queued for approval
I have marked a couple of changes as needing review, but those were changes to content (eg, adding a definition to an existing paragraph)
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fabriciusthat is the 'Tiki Way' - we respect the environment including the people aka each other, thus we need far less hierarchy, which literally is just as much setup as absolutely necessary for the project and still open for everybody who continuously contributes
NachoMahma: as long, as you know what you do, just do - if you have any doubt and need feedback if your changes will work or brake s.th., then ask
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NachoMahmaSo far all I've done is make a few tweaks. Nothing major. [17:51]
fabriciuseach of us is grown up and as we all have so different background and personal history - who is best? we all are best - together [17:51]
NachoMahmaSounds like a bunch of hippie talk from the 1960s-70s heehee
I am surprised that SPAMmers and hackers are not a biggr problem
But it difficult to argue with success. :)
it is
I'll quit bugging y'all for a while and quitely go about tweaking the docs where I can. Later
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fabriciuscool - we always need plenty of help in the docs
docs and translation
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NachoMahmaAny suggestions on where to concentrate my efforts? [17:56]
fabriciushehe
where you concentrate your efforts anyway?
I (personally) think, that you are best in what you like best (if there would be not a massive lack in talent, like me in singing)
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NachoMahmaI started at http://tiki.org/doctwo+Revamp [17:57]
fabriciusearlier or later there will tasks come over you anyway
that is perfect
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NachoMahmaI'd like to apply my efforts where they will do the most good. I am too new to TW to have any idea where my efforts would do the most good [17:58]
fabriciusI should work there aswell - did some translation and details - but more focussing on different stuff
but I always come back to the doc revamp - very good idea, if you focus there
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NachoMahmaok [17:59]
fabriciusRick Sapir (ricks99) is the man and you might talk with Gregor Adamczyck (gta64) aswell and with me if you want
Rick is american and Gregor and me are German - makin the german language user group
but I should not mention names, because there are so many people
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NachoMahmaI have one suggestion that I am not sure where to post: Indicate which version an object became available, when a major change was made (ie, added param), when removed. [18:1]
fabriciusbut Ricks started the doc revamp and we started the german translation, so we would help you to get started if you have a question
ah understand the question
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NachoMahmaI will keep those names in mind when I have a question. Thanks [18:2]
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fabriciuslike Function XYZ since Tiki 4.1 [18:2]
NachoMahmaYes [18:2]
fabriciushmmm must think about that
maybe in the mailing list -> the logs
hmmm
maybe with the revision numbers?
hmmm
I do not know, if that is so much imortant and I do not really know where to find out if it was forgotten in the docs
ah one idea:
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NachoMahmaA few of the pages have tabs with version-specific info, but I have seen no systematic indication of version availability [18:4]
fabriciuswhen you have a look in the history of the features wikipage [18:4]
NachoMahmaMaybe I'm the only one that thinks it's important :) [18:5]
fabriciusthen you for ex can figure out the date when the doc to it was started
that gives an important hint to find out more info about the features history
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NachoMahmaI started going thruough that change docs looking for that info, but it is an arduous task [18:5]
fabriciusmaybe (not the next few days) we could work on some of this together and maybe we find a good workflow for that [18:6]
NachoMahmaIf I am the only one that thinks it would be important for organizing the docs, then not much reason to do it [18:6]
fabriciusthere are pages just for the feature - there the first version
I do not say, that it is not important - maybe the info could be useful ... we should look into that, but I have no time until end of next week
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NachoMahmaah [18:8]
fabriciusyou can write me an email, if you wanna do some collaborative session on the docs - torsten@tiki.org [18:8]
NachoMahmaok. You can contact me at tiki_torsten@bollen.us [18:9]
I check that mail server every 2-4 days [18:11]
fabriciuscool [18:13]
NachoMahmaI hang out on several Freenode channels, including this one, so IRC is probably the fastest way to reach me. [18:14]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r40111 10/trunk/styles/ (BiDi/BiDi.css eatlon.css layout/design.css lite/lite.css): No changes - code styling only (seen on quality.tiki.org) [18:17]
NachoMahmaOh! Is there a forum that would be appropriate for internal documentation? The Documentation forums I see appears to be for users who are creating doc wikis [18:17]
fabriciusmom, on the phone [18:18]
NachoMahma*appropriate for questions/comments about internal [18:18]
fabriciusah done
what you mean in specific?
there are a few teams
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NachoMahmaIs there a forum those the ppl who are working on documenting TW? [18:19]
fabriciusyou can join the teams - I think the team related communication is not so much in forums [18:19]
NachoMahmaI haven't made it to the team/group pages yet. [18:19]
fabriciushehe
mom
http://tiki.org/Teams
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NachoMahma"A way to deal with information overload. " That's for me! :) [18:21]
fabriciushttp://tiki.org/Who+What
I started an initiative on redesigning the community websites a little bit
making it a bit easier to find things for newcomers
would be helpful to chat with you on your experiences
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NachoMahmaA lot of info could be archived "for posterity" and taken out of the pages that users normally see
Yes. I can see that there is a lot to be done to make it easier for users to find info.
Just let me know when you have time to chat and we can exchange some ideas
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fabriciuscool [18:25]
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fabriciuschangi_away: still the same - rest of the installer is bypassed [18:30]
changi_awaydid you rm temp/cache/ content ? [18:30]
fabriciuschangi_away: I made a fresh database
changi_away: I have to go now and lateron a friend will pick me up
changi_away: I will do a complete babyface new checkout late tonight, when I come back home and report tomorrow morning, ok?
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changi_awayok
see ya
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fabriciusnew database, new directory - will dlete everything befoire
see ya
thx for time - anyway the worse problem is solved - probably working like it should
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fabriciuschangi_away: PS yes, I rm temp/cache/ content -> still bypassing - I check a new on later this night. cheers [18:36]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r40114 10/mods/trunk/Packages/wikiplugins-r.info.txt: Fixing version number issue, setting icon at the end, so that the potential issue when installed for Tiki9 is harmless. Thanks jyhem [19:47]
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sylviegback - thx for the one who fixed blank page - bu t I have still a pb with smarty I did not have 2 days agao
in trunk
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r40119 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Improved regexp. Thanks Philippe Grosjean, Mons University, Belgium [23:54]
xavisylvie, a question for you regarding sorting in tracker field itemlink
the content of the dropdown produced from an itemlink type of field in trackers is not sorted properly
if you have 10 items, starting from 1 to 10, you get them sorted as text: 1 10 2 3 ... 9
instead of 1 2 3 ... 10
I remember the same issue in PluginSort months ago, and I was able to fix it by replacing the appropriate function in that plugin from sort() into natcasesort()
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