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marclaporteoverview of? [00:18]
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refizuloverview of available videos? [00:49]
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marclaporteIt's all over the place
http://tv.tiki.org/ would be a place to put links to them all 		[01:04]
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refizulI already missed a new third level domain this week :-) - I wonder if I ever know all of them [01:22]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03luatdo r43795 10branches/9.x/templates/ 10tiki-view_articles.tpl 10article.tpl 10tiki-list_articles.tpl 10article_trailer.tpl
tikiwiki because of system submission is wrong.now I use article place submission.we hide check box published,and can't view if not published. 		[03:42]
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hi every body 		[03:43]
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hello
can i upgrade to 9.2 from 9.0 without repeating a conplete installation? 		[05:39]
marclaporteThere might be some 9.0 to 9.1 and 9.1 to 9.2 patches
Harman: do you have SSH access? 		[05:41]
Harmanyes
wysiwyg takes a long time to load on college wifi (download speed 30kbps connection), i have 100 volunteers all from college and they complain abt slow speed loading editing page, i am on VPS 1 GB RAM APACHE 40GB HDD knownhost webhost 		[05:41]
marclaporteHarman: did you compress your CSS & JS? [05:44]
Harmaneverything else is fine, is there any method i can speed this up? i am running tiki 9.0 only on my server
@ marc - No i havent done it ever. What is it? 		[05:44]
marclaportetiki-admin.php?page=performance has several things you can tweak [05:46]
Harmanoh ok let me have a look, thanks marc :)
ok i can see both these settings here, i am gonna apply and see how it helps 		[05:47]
marclaportealso, gzip the output [05:51]
Harmanshould i check this too "minify css to single file" or leave it and click only minify css? [05:57]
marclaportego for single file
activate everything :-)
a good way to find bugs :-) 		[05:58]
Harmanok sir. let me do it and see the speed changes
YAYY!! wysiwyg is faster now even in slow wifi 		[05:58]
marclaporte:-) :-) [06:04]
Harmansite is running smoother and quicker now @marc
i was wondering how many simultaneous new page creations with wysiwyg can be done on my vps?
considering i am expecting to grow my volunteers to 200 by end of november 		[06:04]
marclaportewell, simultaneous is really rare because even if you have 100 people in a room, they won't all click at the exact same moment [06:06]
Harmanyes thats quite true, i have to build 20,000 article wiki pages by end of next year [06:10]
marclaporteno problem for Tiki
I have a half million page wiki once
no, wait, it was 350 000 pages, or something like that 		[06:19]
Harman@marc..WOOOW!! u just took all my burden off, i always had this in back of my head about max limit of wiki pages tiki could handle, I can go on building worlds largest dental encyclopedia worry-free from now on :-) [06:22]
alright thanks marc, its college time, gotta go and fix some teeth ;-) [06:27]
marclaportehehe [06:27]
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plz help me how to make add as contact(contact list) in my profile page i want to make profile page see this link--http://shawnadler.com/tiki-index.php?page=Social+Networking+Private+Profile+Page in tiki 		[09:54]
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has sf server crashed again? ... I can't get SVN update to connect 		[10:25]
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xavihimanshu: you need to apply the profile "Social Networking". See http://profiles.tiki.org . I have no clue if this profile is updated to tiki 9.x.
kstingel: svn update works for me right now (at least) 		[12:23]
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hello
I look for tip styles .. any idea ? 		[12:39]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43797 10branches/10.x/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] elfinder: Missed reference following service controller move 		[14:24]
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RobertPlummerpolom all [14:29]
jonnybhi RobertPlummer [14:29]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: hi, hows release coordinating going? [14:30]
jonnybok i think, seems pretty smooth so far (unless i missed stuff while away ;) ) [14:31]
RobertPlummer:), no surprises from me. A draw fix. [14:33]
jonnyb:D [14:34]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: I've shifted to trunk for parser development. [14:34]
jonnybyes, saw that - thanks [14:34]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: No sweat, working on the html parser now.
jonnyb: thanks for all your hard work 		[14:35]
jonnybonce you've got it all happy there probably an idea to backport to 10.x in one big clean commit (after 10.0 maybe?)
and thanks for all yours too! :) 		[14:35]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: That sounds good, I'll let the release coordinators make that call.
:)
jonnyb: But seriously, stable wysiwyg is just around the corner. 		[14:36]
jonnybwoo hoo! [14:36]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: No more magic, just data transformation. [14:37]
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JyhemPom pom polom [15:32]
jonnybmoloq moq moq [15:32]
xavipolom-moloq-pom-moq [15:34]
jonnyb:) [15:34]
xaviI did my first quick install of tiki 10 :-)
unbelievable :-) 		[15:35]
JyhemJyhem believes Xavi :) [15:35]
xaviand I already saw that same tiny issues pending to fix in 9x are still there pending to fix in 10.x
:-)
one quick one: plugin tracker doesn't show the default values in drop downs pre-loaded, as it does in the tracker interface itself (and as it used to work in 6.x )
reproduced in 10.x, and 9.x (latest svn's)
and once said so, I have to move back into non-tiki urgent staff for today (at least for a while) 		[15:35]
rinnanHowdy folks. I'm looking into setting permissions for my file galleries but seem unable to restrict access to the individual files in them (for users with using to the URL to the file). Any tips as to when to find relevant doc for this issue? I've been searching around with limited success [15:38]
JyhemJyhem moves to non-generic coding in Tiki unified -search :-( [15:38]
jonnybrinnan: i think it's recommended to use the perms on galleries, not individual files [15:40]
rinnanjonnyb: That was my initial thought, but restricting access to a gallery doesnt remove the access to files within that gallery, only to the gallery itself (when listing galleries) [15:41]
jonnybhmm, sounds wrong - do the files have any special permissions on them? [15:42]
rinnanno, not until I started experimenting
This is of course only an issue when users get access to the direct URL's to the files (or maneges to guess those URL's)
but its still a showstopper
I'll se if I can reproduce the issue on another tiki-install 		[15:42]
jonnybwhen you say direct url - you mean tiki-download_file.php?fileId=42 (or dl42 etc)? [15:45]
rinnanyup [15:45]
jonnybtiki-download_file.php should check gallery perms, i thought
maybe you need to withdraw tiki_p_download form everyone and only grant that on the public galleries? 		[15:46]
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rinnanworth a try [15:48]
Jyhemrinnan: what do you call "restricting access to a gallery"? "list_gallery" prevents viewing it, but access to files is tiki_p_download [15:48]
rinnanJyhem: Yeah. Well what I was trying to acieve is creating a gallery whose files arent readable for users except a certain group
Tried to assign a category with the correct permissions to the gallery, and then, to the files themselves
so I did remove tiki_p_download for the gallery 		[15:50]
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Jyhemrinnan: so removing tiki_p_download for the gallery is buggy? :-( [16:07]
rinnanJyhem: Thats what I'm trying to find out. I was initially looking for some doc for how to create a file gallery limiting the visibility of files within it [16:09]
Jyhem: revoking global rights does work [16:15]
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rinnanjonnyb's suggestion of revoking global rights and assigning rights to the gallery itself works [16:16]
jonnybhmm, sounds a bit buggy then - think it's supposed to work like you thought (what version tiki? 9?) [16:17]
rinnanfound the same issue in both tiki 9.1 and tiki10 [16:18]
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hi. can help me anybody with plugin bug in tw9.2? 		[16:18]
refizulrefizul can confirm the permission problem in 9.1 - anonymous download possible if granted to registered only [16:20]
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hi i have problem with plugin Sourse in tw 9.2
can help anyone? 		[16:21]
jonnybsergrlager: Question? Just ask. :) [16:24]
sergrlagerin tw 9.2 plugin Source in Wysiwyg editor dont show code of last page version so i cant edit it normally. [16:27]
refizulis there a general philosophy which permission set applies to a situation?
Can a singular revoke override global permissions in Tiki? 		[16:27]
jonnybsergrlager: how do you mean "plugin Source"? (there are issues with using plugins in wysiwyg - best to use wiki mode if you want to use plugins a lot)
refizul: yes, revoke should work on object or category perms 		[16:28]
sergrlagerш have an icon named Source. when i use it i have sorse code of page and i can hange him- its very useful to delete some no need <p>
in tw 8.3 i have no problems with it! 		[16:31]
jonnybsergrlager: and in 9.2 it's empty for you? seems ok for me (i'll just recheck)
seems ok for me - some problems with line-breaks inside plugins like {CODE} but that's been the case for several versions i think 		[16:34]
refizulSomething seems buggy, it doesn't work the other way round either:
no anonymous global permission to download -> permission granted to a single file -> still forbidden 		[16:37]
sergrlagerin 9.2 i have code of not last version of page/ for example i open last version in this way- change source code- then save. When i tried to look source of saved page i dont see changes/ but if i use this function in versios table list for concrete version - its shown me a source cod truelly - but i сате edit it (only read))
its really bug ! 		[16:39]
jonnybsergrlager: i don't follow - if i edit a page in wysiwyg source mode, then save it, the change gets saved fine for me (not sure what you mean, sorry)
refizul: looking at the code in tiki-download_file.php it seems to only check the gallery perms, not individual files 		[16:43]
refizulassigning permission to a gallery and then changing global permissions changes gallery permissions
but then: gallery restriction overrides global permission, no anonymous download possible even if granted globally 		[16:44]
sergrlagerbut i edit pages in admin mode so i have all permissions
and when i use another buttton - for each version it give me a code for this version. so as i understand its not true sql query in plugin Sourse in wysiwyg 		[16:48]
refizulthe checkbox permission setting at file gallery list doesn't seem to work properly at file level. It seems to work for the whole gallery checkbox [16:51]
jonnybsergrlager: separate conversation about permissions for files
refizul: which checkbox? 		[16:51]
xavileft #tikiwiki [16:52]
refizulthe checkbox of a special gallery in the whole list at tiki-list_file_gallery.php -- seems to work, both ways [16:53]
sergrlageri have an idea to use this plugin from tw 8.3 but i dont know how copy it [16:53]
refizulthe checkbox selected permission setting for special files does not work - but the key symbol below the table is labeled "Assing permission to file galleries" anyway -- so maybe not intended fine grained permissions on file level [16:56]
sergrlagerif you wont use аду galleries in 9.2 you must use ssh on your server [16:57]
jonnybah right refizul - try the "permissions" button at the top [16:57]
refizulthe setting via button at the top works fine - I cannot reproduce rinnan's issue with that [17:01]
jonnybi think the perms via the key icon at the bottom can only add perms, not revoke (probably should be removed, it's very old) [17:03]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #4336 - - Source plugin in WisyWig - http://dev.tiki.org/item4336 [17:07]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: bug in plugin (Source) in wysiwig editor in TW 9.2 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45553 [17:42]
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refizulI created a tracker with a checkbox and several options for tagging
Can I filter the items by choosing special options?
It's type: Multiselect 		[18:01]
jonnybfilter how? with trackerfilter plugin? [18:05]
refizulI want users to select tags and then filter items from tracker which match to be displayed [18:08]
jonnybrefizul: have you looked at {list} and {customsearch} plugins? [18:10]
refizulI'll do that next - actually I get: tracker field type not processed yet M [18:17]
jonnybmeh - bad luck!
arrays are tricky 		[18:19]
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refizulthe doc is very advanced - not yet a help. I don't even know whether I look at the right place. [18:47]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43798 10branches/ 1010.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.add_help.php 1010.x/templates/tiki-edit_help.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] help: Prevent the help title appearing on the edit toolbar 		[18:58]
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43799 10branches/9.x/templates/ 10tiki-view_articles.tpl 10article.tpl 10tiki-list_articles.tpl 10article_trailer.tpl
tikiwiki [ROLLBACK] Nothing to do in 9.X 		[19:12]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: How to inset paragraph in wisywig - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45554 [19:12]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43800 10branches/ 1010.x/tiki-edit_submission.php 1010.x/templates/tiki-edit_submission.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] article subs: Rename "submit" input as it conflicts with the submit function, and add missing $auto_query_args 		[19:26]
JyhemThanks changi67 [19:28]
jonnyb+1 changi (hi Jyhem) [19:31]
Jyhem_laptophi jonnyb [19:37]
arildbI would like to change the text "Show module text" to "Hide module text" in modlib.php. Section...
'notitle' => array(
'name' => tra('No Title'),
'description' => 'y|n '.tra('Show module title'),
Answering 'y' will hide the module title
This change affects a lot of language.php files
This text is only used in this location.
Should all the language files be updated?
e.g. tiki10langndslanguage.php(1456):"Show module title" => "�n Modultitel opwiesen",
...will be commnted out and the key text changed? 		[19:47]
jonnybhi arildb - i'm never quite sure about that, i expect they all need to be changed, but not sure if they then need commenting out... [19:49]
arildbjonnyb: but I don't know how to do the translation, so commenting out after changing the key text seems to be the best choice. If it's left active the translation is probably wrong
any "best practice" routines around this?
marclaporte: any thoughts on this issue?
another thing is if this should be done in 10 or trunk. If a lot of language files are changed, maybe trunk is better suited than 10? 		[19:51]
marclaporteThe whole "how to translate" lacks leadership
I added info : http://tiki.org/i18n+Team
Active translators need to get together and decide on best practices
I am hopeful Tiki10 upgrade of tiki.org will permit a i18n workspace which will make it a lot easier for translators to coordinate 		[19:57]
arildbdoes the procedure I sketched out look ok, in this case?
update in trunk, change the key text in the language.php files, comment out any active translations 		[19:59]
marclaporteI don't think you need to comment out active translations as they will disappear on their own when "get strings" in run (before the next release) [20:01]
arildbah...good. Then only update the key strings
or will this whole string handling be done automatically at the next release, so only modlib.php needs updating? 		[20:01]
refizularildb: after altering the masterfile all language.php files need an update to let translators know where to change and comment in whatever they want to adjust [20:04]
arildbyes, and I assume the release process takes care of the string handling. Then it may be ok do the update in Tiki 10, too. [20:06]
marclaportehttp://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/get_strings.php?view=markup [20:06]
arildbmarclaporte: thanks [20:08]
marclaportearildb: if you fix a typo in English that doesn't change the meaning, you can use lang/en/language.php, but since you are changing the meaning, just pretend it was a brand new feature [20:09]
arildbok. Is 10 ok? [20:09]
marclaporteA question for the release coordinator (Bernard)
How many translations will be broken? 		[20:14]
arildbI will add it to trunc. Can always be backported later [20:15]
marclaporte:-)
Tiki11 will be out soon :-) 		[20:15]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43801 10trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php
tikiwiki "y|n Show module title" should be "y|n Hide module title"
tikiwiki Answering 'y' will hide the text.
tikiwiki 03marclaporte r43802 10branches/10.x/lib/prefs/payment.php
tikiwiki add a relevant keyword to make pref easier to find 		[20:20]
marclaportearildb: I always find double negatives confusing for users. So thanks [20:22]
arildb:-) [20:23]
marclaportebrb [20:23]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03marclaporte r43803 10branches/10.x/get_strings.php
tikiwiki some more doc about get_strings.php 		[20:24]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jyhem r43804 10trunk/templates/admin/include_search.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] A pref can't be present twice in the same tpl or it is impossible to change it
tikiwiki 03jyhem r43805 10branches/10.x/templates/admin/include_search.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX][bp/43804] A pref can't be present twice in the same tpl or it is impossible to change it
tikiwiki 03jyhem r43806 10branches/9.x/templates/admin/include_search.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX][bp/43804] A pref can't be present twice in the same tpl or it is impossible to change it 		[20:34]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43807 10trunk/lib/core/ 10(5 files in 3 dirs)
tikiwiki [NEW] Rather than use the parser like an html analyzer, make it a real parser
tikiwiki [NEW] type handling for most wiki syntax
tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43808 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/List.php
tikiwiki [FIX] more defined names for list types
tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43809 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/ 10Handler.php 04HtmlCharacter.php
tikiwiki [NEW] Better implementation of html char handling
tikiwiki [FIX] type names
tikiwiki 03robertplummer r43810 10trunk/lib/core/JisonParser/Wiki/ 10HotWords.php 10AutoLink.php
tikiwiki [ENH] Add in the parser, and a todo 		[21:12]
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RobertPlummermarclaporte1: I put off my other project for a bit, I'm about half way through the phpunit tests with success/ [21:41]
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refizulError: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php
linked from http://doc.tiki.org/faqs 		[22:00]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43811 10branches/ 1010.x/lib/setup/javascript.php 1010.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js 1010.x/templates/comment/list.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] Avoid having "Add Comment" popup when text marked.
tikiwiki Missing option to enable/disable inline comments, and inline comments don't seem to work.
tikiwiki Add option placeholder. Disable for now. 		[22:02]
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tikiwiki no change - see qa.tiki.org 		[22:26]
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03arildb r43813 10branches/9.x/ 10lib/metadata/metadata.php 10lib/prefs/feature.php 10templates/admin/include_fgal.tpl
tikiwiki [bp/r43615,r43616,r43622]
tikiwiki [FIX] tiki-batch_upload.php can now handle large files, e.g CD images.
tikiwiki [MOD] FileMetadata will no longer load the file contents when a file path is specified.
tikiwiki Doing so will break normal PHP memory limits for large files, e.g. CD/DVD images.
tikiwiki Determine filesize directly from the filesystem when a path is specified.
tikiwiki The content attribute is set to private to avoid clients using FileMetadata as a file loader
tikiwiki [ENH] Make batch uploading and large file integration more visible.
tikiwiki [ENH] Make a note about file directory being the recommended storage, when batch upload is active.
tikiwiki 03changi67 r43814 10(20 files in 14 dirs)
tikiwiki [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/10.x 43773 to 43812 		[22:32]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Multiselect filter from tracker - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45556 [22:44]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03changi67 r43815 10trunk/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/Wiki/Link.php 10JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php 10JisonParser/Html/Handler.php
tikiwiki no change - see qa.tiki.org 		[22:50]
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