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| refizul | hello fabricius | [01:54] |
| fabricius | hello refizul
say, did you already vote? Today is the last day to vote for Tiki as "Best Free CMS" of the 2012 Critic's Choice CMS Awards. Please vote now: http://list.ly/list/1wJ-best-free-cms | [01:55] |
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| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03arildb r43899 10branches/9.x/tiki-browse_categories.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Must use a reference to get the iteration to work properly (maybe due to PHP 5.4?) tikiwiki 03arildb r43900 10branches/10.x/tiki-browse_categories.php tikiwiki [fp/r43899][FIX] Must use a reference to get the iteration to work properly (maybe due to PHP 5.4?) tikiwiki 03arildb r43901 10trunk/tiki-browse_categories.php tikiwiki [fp/r43899][FIX] Must use a reference to get the iteration to work properly (maybe due to PHP 5.4?) | [02:08] |
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| refizul | Tiki vs XOOPS is +9 again?! | [02:32] |
| marclaporte | I sent a few emails :-)
I don't know what campaign they did but Xoops has a significant community and their score was increasing steadily | [02:35] |
| refizul | yeah . but they were only 3rd 24h ago | [02:40] |
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| fabricius | + 10 now | [02:59] |
| refizul | a miracle
when does the vote end? 12pm UTC? | [03:00] |
| fabricius | refizul: no not a miracle, but marclaporte's hard work for us all ... as said, he wrote a fe emails
marclaporte: what time and date (UTC) ends? I do not find on the website. October 12, 2012 to November 11, 2012: Voting occurs. | [03:02] |
| refizul | Nov 11 due to which timezone? all?
so till 11:59 pm +1200, I guess - what do you think? fabricius: did you notice the scheduled article do not disappear from info.t.o? | [03:07] |
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hello, someone can help me about google map on tikiwiki 11 ? | [03:14] |
| refizul | hi - tiki 11? Tiki 10 isn't released yet ;-) | [03:16] |
| termitor | sorry or 9, where see the version ?
and what it the solution ? (sorry my english is bad) | [03:17] |
| fabricius | refizul: no
termitor: you can see in /tiki-admin.pgp?page=general or so termitor: solution for which problem? | [03:19] |
| termitor | {GOOGLEMAP(type=item, mode=hybrid, key=XXXXX, name=test, width=500, height=400, frameborder=1|0, defaultx=-79.4, defaulty=43.707, defaultz=14, setdefaultxyz=1|0, locateitemtype=wiki page|..., locateitemid=xxx, hideifnone=0|1, togglehidden=0|1, starthidden=0|1, autozoom=14)}{GOOGLEMAP} | [03:21] |
| fabricius | maybe a problem with the api key ... I actually do not know, if the plugin uses the flash api or the javascript api - v2 or v3
https://developers.google.com/maps/signup?hl=de | [03:27] |
| lindonb | i believe it uses the v2 | [03:27] |
| termitor | the documentation no so clear | [03:29] |
| marclaporte | termitor: related: http://profiles.tiki.org/Cartograf
bbl | [03:29] |
| fabricius | lindonb: google strongly recommends v3 - would we have to adjust/recode the plugin then? | [03:29] |
| lindonb | yes we would
however all coding effort is going to streetmaps collaborative alternative to googlemaps | [03:30] |
| fabricius | refizul: I think we should take care a bit more about the up-to-dateness Tiki news article section ... maybe Rick would appreciate some support ... branching of 10 is not mentioned yet and the next webinar surely is not in October | [03:33] |
| termitor | lindonb streetmaps, tiki have a plugins? | [03:35] |
| refizul | the webinar should have disappeared automatically as far as I understand
fabricius: so something is buggy at info.t.o | [03:35] |
| fabricius | refizul: maybe a setting issue? ... checking the setting, but we leave it and mention to Rick ... he is the man of the news | [03:37] |
| refizul | I don't understand yet what is wrong, and I do not know Tiki 6
But the calendar module is buggy, too - as in Tiki 9 | [03:38] |
| lindonb | termitor: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginMap
just type {map} in a page and you'll see | [03:39] |
| fabricius | refizul: type "event" is set to be visible after expiry date, so it is visible due to being set visible | [03:39] |
| lindonb | it's actually called OpenStreetMap | [03:40] |
| fabricius | refizul: if you want to know why and if you want to suggest to change, I suggest to ask Rick | [03:40] |
| refizul | I suppose I've detected a memory leak in etherape - it's consuming 900M+ right now. Horrorshow.
fabricius: an article about upcoming webinar is more urgent | [03:42] |
| fabricius | what's etherape? | [03:45] |
| refizul | fabricius: etherape is a graphical viewer for network traffic | [03:46] |
| fabricius | ah refizul
lindonb: map plugin not fully working in my Tiki10 ... might be a config-error <-> any bug known? | [03:53] |
| lindonb | does {map} work? | [03:55] |
| fabricius | the plugin shows a map and I have few controls, but the system does not trigger the search for an adress - anyay I can search and find my location
zoom does not work and I cannot move the map | [03:58] |
| lindonb | there's not a search location link at the bottom of the map? | [03:59] |
| fabricius | no switching the layers - just a static map of the world (like a picture) or a map of 300 km around my location
there IS a search dialogue and I CAN type inmy adress in the popup after applying nothing happens but a reload of the page to the same static map image | [03:59] |
| refizul | I wrote the article | [04:01] |
| fabricius | hmm clearing caches lindonb
thx refizul | [04:01] |
| lindonb | fabricius: yes, same for me | [04:01] |
| refizul | publish it or review first by someone? | [04:01] |
| lindonb | used to work | [04:01] |
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| fabricius | lindonb: static map image still ... you confirm the behaviour in Tiki10?
if yes, we found a second blocker | [04:03] |
| lindonb | yes, confirm your behaviour in 10 | [04:03] |
| fabricius | grrml - hoped it would be a config problem | [04:04] |
| refizul | I lost connection to info.t.o | [04:05] |
| fabricius | btw lindon, I wanted to use our osm for usermap ... anyidea howto? did not use after I tested about 2 or 3 years ago with google maps
refizul: dito - how you crashed it? refizul: :-D | [04:05] |
| refizul | I didn't - I saved the article and checked with another browser where I wasn't logged in
it's back | [04:07] |
| fabricius | just kidding
ah yes - back for me aswell ... maybe just lagged | [04:07] |
| refizul | error - not logged in | [04:08] |
| fabricius | I am still logged in | [04:09] |
| refizul | need to be published (checkbox) - wnat to review first? | [04:09] |
| fabricius | ok | [04:09] |
| refizul | s/wnat/want/ | [04:09] |
| fabricius | refizul: found one typo, kept it in the pocket and published | [04:12] |
| refizul | Event, not article -- and expiration added | [04:12] |
| fabricius | args did not check THAT ... just the text - thx for double check | [04:13] |
| refizul | you published?
then I overrided - pleasecheck typo again | [04:13] |
| lindonb | fabricius: don't know offhand, would need to look at docs | [04:14] |
| fabricius | hey, why did you took the typo ack from me ... now I keep it | [04:15] |
| refizul | I corrected Event and expiration with a copy with the typo - sorry
Do you publish - or shall I? | [04:15] |
| fabricius | lindonb: not thus important now ... will check the docs another day myself, but in the end it must work 9.3 and 10.0 beta - at leat 10.0 final | [04:16] |
| lindonb | doesn't seem to be working in 9x | [04:17] |
| fabricius | refizul: just ok now, as I have it back. just have been wondering ;-) | [04:17] |
| refizul | I wonder which typo - most stuff was c&p | [04:18] |
| fabricius | lindonb refizul : I fear a bit too fast development of new features, if we frequently face lacks in core features and general important features ... or maybe simply a lack of tracking the bugs | [04:19] |
| lindonb | i agree | [04:20] |
| fabricius | anyway things are developing in respect of bugtracking anyway | [04:20] |
| lindonb | extends to documentation as well | [04:20] |
| refizul | once I understand the structure I can participate to fix bugs | [04:20] |
| fabricius | maybe we need responsible persons per feature or so
refizul: that would be very cool | [04:20] |
| lindonb | map works in 8x | [04:21] |
| refizul | but this will take some time - I didn't make efforts with the encryption yet. | [04:22] |
| fabricius | besides my personal projects in respect of the development of the consultance business I have a certain focus towards tiki | [04:22] |
| refizul | fabricius: did you fix typo and republish again? | [04:22] |
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| fabricius | website revamp - marketing strategy - consistency - filling holes in between core features
refizul: yes indeed - I told you that I took the typo back into my pocket ... didn't I refizul: it was just a "to" missing in the last sentense mostlikely a running typo due to c/p | [04:23] |
| refizul | still there? it's published now | [04:25] |
| luatdo | hi refizul | [04:27] |
| refizul | hello luatdo | [04:30] |
| fabricius | refizul: yes, I published and I took the typo out a second time .. finished and thx for writing | [04:33] |
| Tiki|bot | Info: Next Tiki Webinar to be held on November 15 - http://info.tiki.org/article205-Next-Tiki-Webinar-to-be-held-on-November-15 | [04:34] |
| fabricius | fabricius needs to get some food - hungry big time
refizul: siehgst? | [04:34] |
| refizul | siehgst? | [04:35] |
| fabricius | refizul: Tiki bot has spoken ... hast gsehn mein I
argl, kimmscht ja vo avi links | [04:35] |
| refizul | yes - and I see the missing word when I compare with October
are you from Scotland? :-� | [04:36] |
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| fabricius | hehe | [04:38] |
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| luatdo | hi marc | [04:47] |
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| fabricius | hi marc | [04:51] |
| luatdo | hi fabricius | [04:54] |
| fabricius | hi luatdo
lindon, just saw that you have committed to blog feature recently | [04:57] |
| lindonb | really? | [04:58] |
| fabricius | I have a massive regression (or two) related to blogs in Tiki 10
not you? | [04:58] |
| lindonb | don't remember doing anything on blogs for a while | [04:58] |
| fabricius | rechecking, maybe I mixed the date or the name | [04:58] |
| lindonb | could have been fixing notices | [04:59] |
| fabricius | yes ... you have been the last one with a few commits in trunk ... october, so it is 10 now | [05:00] |
| lindonb | ok, what is the regression? | [05:00] |
| fabricius | maybe you see a short description on the 10er regression page ... just added after your post | [05:01] |
| lindonb | ok, will take a look | [05:01] |
| fabricius | thx
I go there to collect my typos in the meantime | [05:01] |
| bbl | [05:08] | |
| marclaporte | 108 vs 107 votes | [05:09] |
| fabricius|shower | ui
we need more my people I could ask are still sleeping I try in an hour or so ... how long will stay open? | [05:09] |
| marclaporte | It finished today but I don't what time that means :-) | [05:12] |
| fabricius|shower | that's the point | [05:12] |
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| refizul | gna - -1 vote
strange - I'm more interested in this vote than in the US election last week. What does this tell me? | [05:32] |
| marclaporte | hahahhahahha | [05:33] |
| luciash | lol | [05:33] |
| marclaporte | It has more impact on your life? :-) :-)
I don't remember seeing them | [05:34] |
| refizul | klick at "who votes" XOOPS - there are 10 fake accounts?! | [05:37] |
| marclaporte | hahahahaha | [05:38] |
| refizul | Joe-Doe Joe-Doe-1 ... Joe-Doe-9 | [05:38] |
| marclaporte | and not the most subtle :-)
Let's just continue to get legitimate votes | [05:38] |
| refizul | this must me investigated by the supreme court | [05:39] |
| luciash | lol, US court | [05:39] |
| marclaporte | There will be a recount! hahahaha | [05:39] |
| fabricius|shower | marclaporte: stefan is trying now | [05:39] |
| refizul | But only in Florida! | [05:39] |
| marclaporte | I sent a bunch of emails late in the day, and people are voting! | [05:40] |
| Tiki-KGB | tikiwiki 03lindonb r43902 10branches/10.x/templates/tiki-blog_post.tpl
tikiwiki [FIX] Fix regression from r43321 causing edit area not to show when creating a blog post (thanks fabricius). | [05:42] |
| marclaporte | they are getting creative desperate? https://twitter.com/crqrgvuhup | [05:42] |
| fabricius|shower | lindonb: THX that is half of a blockerfixed! | [05:42] |
| lindonb | how to test category problem? | [05:43] |
| fabricius|shower | switch on the category feature and create or edit a blogpost or edit a blog ... saving should give you an error message | [05:43] |
| luciash | the voting system is bad | [05:43] |
| lindonb | ok, let me check | [05:44] |
| fabricius|shower | if not, tonight I will provide you with access to the private site and error messages | [05:44] |
| lindonb | i turned on categories and saved a post and it worked okay
do i need to categorize the post? | [05:46] |
| refizul | crqrgvuhup didn't tweet yet
Supreme Court decision: the winner of the Best Free CMS public vote is: George W. Bush | [05:46] |
| fabricius|shower | hmm I did categorise and uncategorise the blog
lindonb: need to shower (still) and have to go out for the day ... I will svn up, recheck and coe back to you in the evening, ok? /s/coe/come | [05:48] |
| lindonb | sounds good
i categorized and then uncategorized a blog post and it works okay | [05:50] |
| fabricius|shower | multilingual?
I check if I find the erormessage before I go to bath | [05:50] |
| lindonb | okay let me know
will be back on tomorrow evening NY time turned on multilingual and still okay | [05:51] |
| fabricius|shower | did send you the error message in query (too long for here)
bbl | [05:56] |
| marclaporte | refizul: lol | [06:00] |
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| fabricius|shower | jim smith, john warm ... arrgl
I got a few guys to vote, but they have a fake account maker it is not a matter of them having a strong community | [07:29] |
| marclaporte | don't worry | [07:40] |
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polom marclaporte: have you had a chance to play with the show Tikis yet? | [07:57] |
| fabricius | hi kstingel have you voted yet? | [08:02] |
| kstingel | fabricius: voted??? | [08:02] |
| fabricius | http://list.ly/list/1wJ-best-free-cms kstingel
Tiki need you NOW! :-) | [08:04] |
| kstingel | I think I did ... trying to login now to see if the "vote" button becomes available | [08:06] |
| http://list.ly/list/2Hx-most-actively-developed-cms biggrin that one needs votes too | [08:14] | |
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| marclaporte | hehe | [08:41] |
| kstingel | marclaporte: no giggles from non-voters! :-P... we're still only one vote in front of the pack | [08:50] |
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| Guest24368 | i update my tikiwiki 6.6 to tiki 7 my spreadsheet working but when i update my tikiwiki 7 to 8,8 and 10 my spreadsheet not working.
how to resolve my error? | [11:35] |
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| refizul | 5min left
last chance to vote | [11:55] |
| 00:00 UTC
no - more one hour? Last hour to vote... | [12:00] | |
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| RobertPlummer | polom all | [13:40] |
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| fabricius | lla wolod RobertPlummer
refizul: r u there? refizul: need to chat with you | [13:53] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: I'm here
anybody here I can talk with about legacy wysiwyg? arildb: you around? | [14:03] |
| fabricius | uh this discussion went apart from me up to naw RobertPlummer - feel free to tell me if nobody would be around to talk with you :-) | [14:08] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: You used legacy wysiwyg? | [14:09] |
| fabricius | not that I know, but should not be a problem to try it
always interested on wysiwyg improvement - not that I personally would be keen to go for wysiwyg, but some projects are and Tiki needs it to keep up on the market I think as important as hopefully soon to get real calendar synchronisation | [14:11] |
| luciash | polom
hi RobertPlummer: what u need to know about Wysiwyg ? | [14:15] |
| RobertPlummer | luciash: I need to get it to the point it was in 9.x, I'm limited by real world examples.
I think geoff sent some, but having trouble locating them. | [14:16] |
| luciash | there are not many real world examples you could get access to edit... why not just copy and paste some html and/or word documents on demo ? | [14:19] |
| RobertPlummer | luciash: I want to get it working like it was in 9.x.
luciash: I could easily get side tracked into other bugs in it. It isn't that I don't want to, I just don't have the resources to go down that road. | [14:21] |
| luciash | how can we help ? | [14:22] |
| RobertPlummer | Those that are familiar with how it works in 9 can aid in helping me get it back to that point. | [14:23] |
| luciash | i am familiar how it works in 9.x but i am not familiar how it works now in trunk or 10.x :-p
i know there are some limitations in 9.x so you will get to those bugs for sure | [14:23] |
| RobertPlummer | luciash: You are the man for the job1
! | [14:25] |
| luciash | how much u pay ? :D | [14:25] |
| RobertPlummer | as much as I'm getting | [14:25] |
| luciash | not interested | [14:25] |
| RobertPlummer | luciash: $0 an hour, sound good? | [14:25] |
| luciash | lol
just ask i do not have time to think up questions and answer to them at the same time | [14:26] |
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| RobertPlummer | luciash: I understand, talking a bit with jonny as a primer.
luciash: There is an option to turn html into wiki syntax, do you know what/where it is? | [14:28] |
| luciash | sure, send by mail
yes on Admin > Wysiwyg panel | [14:28] |
| RobertPlummer | there | [14:29] |
| luciash | do not enable experimental
causes save failures htmltowiki is experimental and not recommended to use in tiki 9 | [14:29] |
| RobertPlummer | it is "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" | [14:30] |
| luciash | stick to stable stuff first
then fix the experimental i need to leave now for downtown c u later here or by mail | [14:30] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: so you are talking - legacy wysiwyg = wysiwyg-wiki? | [14:34] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: Right.
fabricius: Jonny says there is an option to convert html to wiki I guess, and I and he doesn't know what it is called, his system is down. | [14:35] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: I did use that alright and I think that is the way we should go ... and I have project that should really become productive now, as it is nearly finished, just mainly eitors stuff ... people missing to take the last steps so the webdev has to do ... It is kind of a customers project, but I can alright deside to upgrade and use Tiki10 SVN | [14:37] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: Do you know what the pref is called? | [14:38] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: and they desperately want to use wysiwyg, whilst I hate the idea and do not want to loose wikisyntax ... simply as I will have to further help them editing
maybe an ideal project for you, but it is in german lang nearly 100% | [14:38] |
| luciash | htmltowiki | [14:39] |
| fabricius | I think "use wikisyntax in wysiwyg" ... but not how in the code | [14:39] |
| luciash | is the preference name | [14:39] |
| fabricius | a "transform" I did not se ... ahh good luciash | [14:40] |
| RobertPlummer | very good. | [14:40] |
| luciash | that is the experimental buggy one | [14:40] |
| RobertPlummer | So we want to turn that off. | [14:40] |
| luciash | yes
gotta run c u later | [14:40] |
| RobertPlummer | very good, 1 hour in, I know the pref name, good start, lol. | [14:40] |
| fabricius | yes! I always have problems with switching editors as long as html and wiki would be mixed | [14:40] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: It will not be a problem with the new wysiwyg system. The html works as both the output for the editor, and a data transformation layer for the html -> wiki parser.
1 html = (output + data transformation tracking) | [14:41] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: with wysiwyg-wiki it seems more stable, but I anyway frequently lose content - pages get empty and not editable anymore ... need to roll back or delete and recreate (copy paste of a rollback normally works) - so I cannot really give it a productive .... If I knew you on my side developing, I would definitely dare to make the site 90% wysiwyg | [14:43] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: It will be some time before the new wywiwyg is ready for a alpha or beta status, but the platform is there, and is passing transformation steps. | [14:44] |
| fabricius | and a stable wysiwyg similar using like openoffice would ease the projects search for editors and getting the content in | [14:44] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: So it is like, in the old legacy we started going down a road, and didn't know what was possible, with the new one, it is possible by design. | [14:45] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: you just need to tell me when you are ready to use a productive site to test-develop | [14:45] |
| RobertPlummer | :) | [14:46] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: actually I have a second site from tha mother of their organisation in development right now: the intranet of the national organisation (the website above is from a local branch) | [14:47] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: Could I get a db dump? It'd be nice to work with some real world data? | [14:48] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: this I make from scratch with 10 and it should become productive in alpha or beta state by end this month | [14:48] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: That is a good timeframe with the new editor, want to have something working by the end of the week, something almost alpha by the end of the month. Buttons, auto-save, prefs.
Those are goals, not exact dates, but I don't see anything that is going to set us back to far. I think we are though going to use the new ckeditor, 4 I think. So that legacy code is not bothered, and when it goes production, html5 will be standard. | [14:49] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: as said, it is all in german ... we are in the process of starting to move old content to the new side and to create new content ... and the guys have no time ...
... kind of waiting for each other ... ... but yes RobertPlummer, in general I can provide you with a copy of the website, whilst I would take out one or another table - files, users | [14:53] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: Clean up as you wish, I just want content to test wiki -> html -> wiki conversion
unit tests are good, real world tests... are better. | [14:54] |
| fabricius | I know RobertPlummer - that is the reason why I switched to use SVN and I dare to go productive with fresh brached and long running trunks since Tiki7 - and I know that I (all of who do so) have enough backup from the devs for being able to held the risk down | [14:58] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: :) | [14:58] |
| fabricius | RobertPlummer: in the end it is as easy as this: * we cannot fix the bugs if we do not find 'em and we cannot find 'em if we do not use the features (and versions). * | [15:00] |
| RobertPlummer | fabricius: My view exaclty, my site is on trunk
clients not, but can't push them for what they don't want or need. | [15:00] |
| fabricius | I mostly switched to 10 now, cause we need to solidly release 10 and tighten 9 | [15:01] |
| Bsfez | hi all | [15:03] |
| fabricius | I have one site I develop now - volontarily aswell - which can only be in 9, as it has to work and it is a coop project with orgas from a few countries and with people from universities ... must be stable .... mostly ths others can be 10 and maybe the one or other could lateron move up the trunk again - will see
hi Bsfez release chat? | [15:03] |
| Bsfez | ? nobody answers but u… :(
may be we wait a little more people wake up :D | [15:04] |
| fabricius | part of the blockers alredy fixed ... lindon, robert, lph | [15:04] |
| Bsfez | well not sure... | [15:04] |
| fabricius | you found more? | [15:04] |
| Bsfez | got this on a fresh install an hour ago:
Syntax error in file: /html/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php ADONewConnection: Unable to load database driver '' Invalid db object passed to TikiDB constructor at tiki-install | [15:05] |
| fabricius | ouch | [15:05] |
| Bsfez | never saw such | [15:05] |
| fabricius | adodb driver broken? did you try with pdo? did you try an svn up - maybe just a file corrupted on checkout?
should try the mentioned file out of an older inst that worked aswell and we check in the mail-logs if and who and when last commited to this file or someting around db-drivers RobertPlummer: what do you think? | [15:06] |
| RobertPlummer | Nothing I'm working on would cause that.
Myn has always just worked. | [15:08] |
| fabricius | Bsfez: and lph already answered in the devlist with further questions - so do not worry to get a quick solution | [15:08] |
| RobertPlummer | Any other errors? | [15:09] |
| fabricius | I chck the cvs/svn list
/s/chck/check | [15:09] |
| Bsfez | Well… all what is suggesting LP is already in my first email.
revision, new install, doing what... btw i though that the revision number would give the branch. wrong ? well on a new install hard to go anywhere ! :) i can't set the db :D | [15:12] |
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| fabricius | Bsfez: you work with SVN or download and unpack? -> then which package? | [15:15] |
| Bsfez | svn (as it says) | [15:15] |
| lphuberdeau | bsfez, you still havn't answered most questions, but I could assume the answer based on the fact that you did not understand them | [15:18] |
| Bsfez | possibly, can u help me ?
Which branch? = 10.x Is that revision the latest one or you could get it to work right before that revision? = irrelevant it is a new install from 0 Was it a clean install or re-using credentials from a past installation? = it is a new… clean install When does it occur? = when i go ti tiki-install.php to proceed to the installation. that's ok ? | [15:19] |
| lphuberdeau | the question was to know if you had pinpointed the issue to that commit
when does it occur? is it the first step of tiki-install, initial page load, or further down the process don't assume I don't read the emails please | [15:21] |
| Bsfez | no i don;t pinpointed to any commit
it happen on initial page load | [15:22] |
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| lphuberdeau | good, now you'll have to search for the faulty commit, because I can't reproduce the issue | [15:23] |
| Bsfez | LP, It look to me the elements are in my first email. I understand we don't speak the same technical language and i'm trying to learn from this discussion.
So, i don't assume anything… if you have that feeling it is yours. Thanks for your help LP | [15:24] |
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| fabricius | arrgl my thunderbird hanged up on trying to prepare 19k mails to be moved | [15:31] |
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| luciash | re-polom
hi all Bsfez1: adodb is third party... are u sure the SVN checkout went well ? such errors happen when for some reason third party svn repository is unreachable and svn checkout does finish with errors | [16:34] |
| fabricius | In such a mystearious case I just would run an svn up and try again
mysterious | [16:39] |
| luciash | yep | [16:39] |
| fabricius | maybe delete the folder upfront | [16:39] |
| luciash | not necessary | [16:40] |
| fabricius | and then svn up
ah ok | [16:40] |
| luciash | svn up should work | [16:40] |
| fabricius | /s/mystearious/mysterious | [16:40] |
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| Guest18919 | Greetings! I've looked around unsuccessfully for a hosted instance of TikiWiki for a community organization I help out with. I tried a couple of vendors on the following list but had no joy: http://tiki.org/Tiki+Friendly+Hosts
Any suggestions? While I'm comfortable with web administration, I'm time-constrained and not everyone in the organization is comfortable with web administration -- the service really needs to be turnkey. | [16:44] |
| ricks99 | lots of tiki consultants available at http://tiki.org/consultants | [16:45] |
| Guest18919 | That's not quite what I'm looking for -- I'm looking for something more like the Drupal or Wordpress instances available on GoDaddy. Hiring a real person to help us out is likely cost-prohibitive, and I could do it if I had the time. | [16:47] |
| luciash | Guest18919: hi Luke :) where r u based ? US ? | [16:47] |
| Guest18919 | I am based in the US | [16:48] |
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| luciash | Guest18919: had no joy with the friendly hosts means what ? | [16:48] |
| ricks99 | most hosts have tiki available via simple scripts or similar one-click-installs
have used with godaddy, bluehost, etc all the time | [16:48] |
| Guest18919 | I went through the list and read the PR pages of a number of friendly hosts. I even tried subscribing to two of them (I don't remember which), only to find that the service wasn't what I thought it was.
Does GoDaddy offer the automated updates? | [16:49] |
| ricks99 | think simplescript offers updates | [16:49] |
| Guest18919 | I can deploy a PHP app to GoDaddy, but I'm concerned about the organization's ability to maintain the site if I'm unavailable due to being busy. | [16:49] |
| ricks99 | not the host provider, but the script isntaller. two different things
installation & administration/config: 2 different issues | [16:50] |
| Guest18919 | With the Drupal/Wordpress installs on GoDaddy, they send out e-mail and provide push-button installs/updates. (I'm not a fan of GoDaddy, and their installs don't always work, but it does provide a handle for people who don't use bash.)
So, does TikiWiki provide a selfupdate feature? I've only tinkered with it on the LiveCD. | [16:52] |
| ricks99 | tiki provids update notification. so do some script installers (such as simplescript) | [16:53] |
| Bsfez1 | Hi ricks99
lphuberdeau: u still here ? | [16:53] |
| lphuberdeau | yes | [16:54] |
| Bsfez1 | i have tried on 3 different servers | [16:54] |
| Guest18919 | I'll read up on simplescript, and see if it does what I need. | [16:55] |
| Bsfez1 | sry :) clean install of 10.x
it seams that the problem happen on my squeeze using sbox when i install at first i got this error: Sbox Error The http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/sbox/ program encountered an error while processing this request. Please note the time of the error, anything you might have been doing at the time to trigger the problem, and forward the information to this site's Webmaster (mailto:%5Bno%20address%20given%5D). not world executable so i change file to be world executable : find . -iname '*.php' -exec chmod +x {} ; | [16:55] |
| lphuberdeau | that doesn't tell me anything, I'm not a system administrator | [16:57] |
| ricks99 | Guest18919: see also the info on http://info.tiki.org/download | [16:57] |
| Bsfez1 | MM… ok | [16:57] |
| ricks99 | lots of other remote installer solutions (installatron, softaculous, etc)
hi Bsfez1 | [16:57] |
| Bsfez1 | hi ricks99 | [16:57] |
| fabricius | Guest189: Luke, I tell you what: the best joice in case you have at least a minimum of knowledge is simply a small friendly ISP with SSH and landline no. support -> just run your website with svn scheckout/svn up and you are mostly done - no problems with old versions or mixed autoupgrades | [16:58] |
| Bsfez1 | lphuberdeau: i'll try to get some answers and feedback about this as sbox/aufs will become common on xen install from what i have understand. | [16:59] |
| lphuberdeau | If you can identify the commit that caused the problem, I can look into it, but otherwise, it's a needle in a haystack because I can't reproduce myself | [17:00] |
| Bsfez1 | lphuberdeau: i need to check my other tiki's on the same box… may be the domain protection is not set to sbox/aufs so there is no regression but a new config to check and add.
long time i didn't make a clean install :) | [17:01] |
| fabricius | Guest189: Luke, I just got a bugfix made by one of the devs in the new Tiki 10 - have no time thught, but right a minute ago, I logged in to my serverr via SSH, cd to the installation and typed "svn up" ... in a few minutes I'll type in my browser mydomain.com/tiki-install.php and 2 minutes later my bug is gone in the wind - easy, fast and full control - I never again wnt to work without ssh access
Bsfez1: so your mysterious problem magically solved? | [17:02] |
| Bsfez1 | not at all :) | [17:03] |
| Guest18919 | Fabricius: We do have such an ISP running our Drupal site now. They're not familiar with TikiWiki. The frustrating thing about this is that I'm actually quite capable of running the whole LAMP stack and TikiWiki myself, I just don't have the cycles to do it for a few months.... | [17:03] |
| Bsfez1 | I have to check furthermore | [17:04] |
| Guest18919 | Gotta run -- talk to you all later | [17:06] |
| fabricius | Guest189 not much work ... with the autoinstaller you just outsource installation and lose control ... and you easily could teach another webmaster/serveradmin-assistant how to type "svn up" in a linux terminal or in a putty ... the rest is pretty muchsame administration than with autoupdate/autoinstallation
ok why I always want to convince others? maybe cause I got convinced by others thx jonnyb for insisting that I have a look on svn and thx to Leu for explaining me the very first steps so have to go aswell now - see ya all later | [17:06] |
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| luciash | Bsfez1: no luck with svn up ? if it is up to date it might be error in their scripts... btw, no PDO on your server ? or why it might try use the obsolete ADODB driver ? | [17:43] |
| Bsfez1 | hi luciash it seams this happen if i use Sbox which a better way than mod_php to secure the site
i'm about to come with a solution. (crossfinguer) | [17:48] |
| luciash: if you are interested found a good guide : http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/PmWiki/SBOXAndDTC | [17:55] | |
| refizul | polom | [17:58] |
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| luciash | hi refizul
luciash never heard bout sbox | [18:09] |
| refizul | I don't understand the +x issue of sbox | [18:16] |
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Hi, the permission tiki_p_admin_wiki grants all permission on wiki pages right? Like view, rllback, delete rename etc etc | [19:42] |
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| refizul | Bsfez: does your setup work with permission 500 subdirs (some 700) and permission 700 files? | [20:22] |
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tikiwiki [FIX] Unset certain parts of the parser so they are treated like text tikiwiki [FIX] Check existence of smileys, autolink, hotwords, dynamicVar before handling them | [20:38] |
| RobertPlummer | man it is cold here in the midwest
just ran outside, I will not recover shortly. | [20:38] |
| ricks99 | lol. beautiful, sunny 74F here in NC | [20:38] |
| RobertPlummer | ricks99: well, that does it... I'm depressed. | [20:39] |
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| ricks99 | you'll feel better in late july, when i have 99% humidity | [20:40] |
| RobertPlummer | ricks99: I love it there actually, Ocean Isle is my fav spot. | [20:41] |
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tikiwiki [NEW] method, isHtmlTag tikiwiki [FIX] Getting handler tuned and using isHtmlTag to ensure we are actually handling html | [20:42] |
| RobertPlummer | ricks99: I went surfing there for the first time.
almost killed me, 6 foot swells on the backside of a storm | [20:42] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 just got back from a weekend on Roanoke Island | [20:42] |
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tikiwiki [FIX] Handle false positives for external links tikiwiki [FIX] break table away from the other contents due lex setting tableStack before it can be parsed, thus the n just before table is ignored. So I assemble table in real-time, need to do all parsing using arrays tikiwiki [ENH] Added pipe handling tikiwiki [ENH] use isHtmlTag to ensure tags are in-fact html | [20:46] |
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| refizul | Bsfez: you can try 'sh setup.sh sbox' | [21:03] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Can't access the FAQs - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=45581 | [21:08] |
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| Bsfez | refizul: ok it will take me some 15mn to reset everything back to sbox but i'll do now | [21:18] |
| Nikhar | Hi, if I select a user in the 'User Selector' field in a tracker, is there a way than an email is sent to that user? | [21:23] |
| Bsfez | refizul: oot@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/xxx/subdomains/www/html# sh setup.sh sbox
-e Type 'fix', 'nothing' or 'open' as command argument. If you used Tiki Permission Check via PHP, you know which of the following commands will probably work: insane mixed morepain moreworry pain paranoia paranoia-suphp risky worry | [21:29] |
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hi @#tikiwiki i just started to test tiki, and configured it successfully except the wysiwyg plugin, it seems that there's no way that it will stay activated :( but maybe it's a plain noob error | [21:32] |
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| refizul | Bsfez: ah, soory, forgot case switch | [21:45] |
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tikiwiki [ENH] adding use case 'sbox' to setup script | [21:48] |
| refizul | now it should work | [21:48] |
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| Bsfez | refizul: ok
refizul: root@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/xxx/subdomains/www/html# sh setup.sh sbox debug breakpoint | [22:10] |
| refizul | huh? | [22:20] |
| Bsfez | :) | [22:20] |
| refizul | now | [22:23] |
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tikiwiki [FIX] debug breakpoint removed tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43920 10trunk/ 10(17 files in 13 dirs) tikiwiki [NEW] Base for inline editing of tracker field values (not quite accessible for the moment, but that will improve) | [22:24] |
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| refizul | doc.t.o is updated: https://doc.tiki.org/Permission+Check | [22:34] |
| fabricius|away | tiki.org - for me it is lacking and when coming, then massive slow ... anybody confirm? | [22:36] |
| refizul | fabricius|away: yes, much slower than doc.t.o
it doesn't work at all right now Bsfez: more success now? | [22:40] |
| fabricius|away: completely down?! | [22:53] | |
| Bsfez | refizul: checking
refizul: seam the script worked, however still no go : http://www.xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/ | [22:56] |
| fabricius|away | refizul: seems alike | [23:01] |
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| refizul | Bsfez: ok, I add world
Bsfez: try paranoia-suphp please world excutable added | [23:10] |
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| Bsfez | refizul: how do i "paranoia-suphp" | [23:34] |
| refizul: still no go… dam.
May be you can find some usefull infos i miss there ? http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/PmWiki/SBOXAndDTC there is something about using localhost and not 127.0.0.1 not sure it is related | [23:46] | |
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