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refizul-exec chmod +x [00:32]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43922 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/functions.inc.php
tikiwiki [FIX] perms: Stray dot
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refizulgroup +x too? [00:33]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43923 10branches/10.x/permissioncheck/usecases.bin
tikiwiki [ENH] adjust 'sbox' permissions: g+x
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refizulBsfez: 43923 has got +x everywhere [00:36]
Bsfezk checking [00:42]
refizulmaybe you need write permission everywhere instead of g+x - this sbox looks a bit strange.
you can try: sh setup.sh paranoia-suphp
I guess I add 18 more functions independent from the model
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fabriciusBsfez: hi ... bad time for me tomorrow
Bsfez: wanna chat today?
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Bsfezfabricius: 2 am here [00:56]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03jonnybradley r43924 10branches/ 1010.x/permissioncheck/index.php 1010.x/permissioncheck/functions.inc.php
tikiwiki [FIX] permcheck: Catch some errors (posix is really required for this, should be handled better)
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fabriciusnp 1 am here
or 7:00 UTCas you suggested?
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Bsfezrefizul: still no good… having it would be nice globally so if you want to solve this i'll be glad to continu testing (tomorrow) but it is not critical to me, i can turn off the sbox.
fabricius: at 2am i'm not fresh enough for such discussion, beside we need jb (he is following the wysiwyg thing)
i suggest you reply email so the other can see… Marc is busy tomorrow but we can do without him. Release is the scheduled the 16… 3days
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fabriciusBsfez: I did reply email straight before I mentioned here
I try to have a chance to get access to internet in the day time
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fabriciustonight I have besides other stuff to write an email to lindon, to get away some possible bug in 10 related to blog/category/multiling ... and today two blocker bugs have been sorted ... need to hunt for more [01:02]
refizulBsfez: all subdirs and all files are +x with 'sh setup.sh sbox' now
is it another error message now?
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Bsfezfabricius: didn't received email about it. The idea is also to inform the others about your availability
refizul: same error
Mmm let me check something not sure about my last test
fabricius: jb just send me an email about being available all day tomorrow
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fabriciusBsfez: I think I am quitey familiar about they concept of email and I did write it in the minute before I came here ... while you arey busy, obvious that the email might not be there right away ... sorry for confusion
Bsfez: hehe lool actually jbs email is an answer to my email
:-þ
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Bsfezfabricius: i just recheck, for some reason i didn't receive your email :)
but let's go on i see it now in jb reply
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fabriciusBsfez: no problem, but thx anyway for a short description of the email concept :-D
rofl
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Bsfezgnia gnia gnia :D
7am utc sound fine to me
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fabriciuscool ... maybe I will be still awaik ... MUST change my rythm quite soon [01:12]
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Bsfezok i let jb decide betwen ur 2 windows
refizul: i have a db error now, look weird, rechecing it all
fabricius: lol received your email now (2h10)
dated
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Bsfezrefizul: maybe it have something to do with : [01:20]
refizuldb error - I hope it is not because of missing write permission [01:21]
Bsfezhe way to tell MySQL client is simply to use "127.0.0.1" instead of just "localhost". Unfortunately, many scripting language forces you to specify what is the address of your MySQL server, instead of leaving this as default from the MySQL client library.
PHP is one of these misbehaving scripting language. So, for example, if you have a phpBB forum, you will have to edit config.php, and change the dbhost variable to use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost.
Also, each script has to be made executable, as another security measure. As an administrator wishing to switch a site to the sbox_aufs mode, you can do:
find . -iname '*.php' -exec sed -i "s/localhost/127.0.0.1/" {} ;
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refizuloh - yes - you cannot use localhost inside sbox
this is a MySQL problem
MySQL scans for the word 'localhost' and replaces the network connection by a socket connection
but inside sbox there is no access to the socket, so you must use network via 127.0.0.1
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Bsfezso may be the permissions are ok now this localhost thing is the problem ?
note that i have applied  find . -iname '*.php' -exec sed -i "s/localhost/127.0.0.1/" {} ;
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refizulyes - with the db this is the problem [01:24]
Bsfezi re apply
who knows
refizul: arf i thought it was good :(
tiki-install load and warn about the lock file on his way. I removed it and reload:
Syntax error in file: /html/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php
ADONewConnection: Unable to load database driver ''
Invalid db object passed to TikiDB constructor
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refizulhm - looks like a sbox/database problem with adodb connect
who is the Tiki db specialist?
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Bsfez... [01:31]
refizulI revert permissions on group but a a possibility to enable them with the script
but add a possibility
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luciashBsfez: on this fresh install u do not have PDO ? [01:32]
BsfezPDO ? [01:33]
luciashdefault php compiled in db driver
adodb is the old one alternative
tried tiki-check ?
and php.ini should tell you if u have it
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refizulBsfez: is the group of Tiki inside sbox identical to the webserver's owner? like www-data or httpd or nobody? [01:34]
Bsfezyes dtc:dtcgrp [01:35]
luciashi know u r tired tonight, maybe "tomorrow wiser than today"
:)
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Bsfezoh my god, tks Lu i'm fighting to understand what you talk about :D :D :D
tiki-install.php => the error above
tiki-check.php show permissions error
http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
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luciashoh, so why not to fix this first ?
make the dirs writable by "dtc"
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43925 10branches/ 1010.x/setup.sh 1010.x/permissioncheck/usecases.bin
tikiwiki [ENH] revert 'sbox' permissions, now g-x, add functions to set/unset several permission bits
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luciashis that the problem what u struggle all night long with setup.sh here ? [01:38]
Bsfezyes [01:39]
luciashi see [01:39]
refizulI guess what the error might be [01:39]
Bsfezupdated and running sh setup.sh sbox
dr-x-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:23 admin
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 599 Nov 13 02:23 antibot.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 3355 Nov 13 02:24 article_image.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 606 Nov 13 02:23 banner_click.php
?
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refizuluser and group are not webserver, I think
so webserver is 'other' in permission bits
try: sh setup.sh opx
opx = the same as o+x with chmod
try: sh setup.sh opw
opx = the same as o+w with chmod
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Bsfezi try sh setup.sh fix and i can see the website [01:45]
refizultry option sbox, and then option opw [01:45]
BsfezBUT tiki-install is still no good [01:45]
refizulI guess I know what this is about
I just need two confirmations for my guess
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Bsfezok
so i proceed as you just wrote: sbox, and then option opw
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refizulyes
not yet possible to use more than one option/command
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Bsfezdone, it show :
-r-x----wx 1 dtc dtcgrp 3353 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss.php
-r-x----wx 1 dtc dtcgrp 3504 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss_no_diff.php
-r-x----wx 1 dtc dtcgrp 2491 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php
-r-x----wx 1 dtc dtcgrp 11867 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-xmlrpc_services.ph
and again:
Sbox Error
The http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/sbox/ program encountered an error while processing this request. Please note the time of the error, anything you might have been doing at the time to trigger the problem, and forward the information to this site's Webmaster (mailto:%5Bno%20address%20given%5D).
is world writable
sbox version 1.11
$Id: sbox.c,v 1.8 2007/06/18 14:40:03 thomas Exp $
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refizulnow error: is world writable
use option omw -- to revert the write permission
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Bsfezk
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 2061 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rankings.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 3353 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 3504 Nov 13 02:23 tiki-wiki_rss_no_diff.php
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refizulshow: ls -ld modules/cache/ [01:53]
Bsfezroot@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/xxx/subdomains/www/html# ls -ld modules/cache/
dr-x-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
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refizulouch /usr/bin/find modules/cache -type d -exec echo /bin/chmod 701 {} ;
there is still a debugging echo
so it does not set write perm to user
I fix that
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Bsfezah :) [01:56]
refizul43926 up [01:58]
Bsfezupdated
then ?
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refizulrun sbox command [01:59]
Bsfezk [01:59]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43926 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
tikiwiki [FIX] remove debugging 'echo'
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refizulnow this should work [02:00]
Bsfezno no :)
root@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/Riki/xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/subdomains/www/html# sh setup.sh sbox
setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
setup.sh: 577: {FIND}: not found
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refizulls -ld modules/cache/ # [02:01]
Bsfez-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 606 Nov 13 02:23 banner_click.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 1624 Nov 13 02:23 banner_image.php
-r-x-----x 1 dtc dtcgrp 1210 Nov 13 02:23 categorize.php
drwx-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
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refizulI knnow [02:02]
Bsfezok got a white page on home [02:02]
refizul43927 up [02:03]
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refizulI deleted one character too much [02:03]
Bsfezup and running sbox [02:04]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43927 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
tikiwiki [FIX] add '$'
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Bsfezroot@GPLHost:xen9720201:shocksite/972.apt-proxy>_ /var/www/sites/Riki/xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/subdomains/www/html# ls -ld modules/cache/ #
drwx-----x 3 dtc dtcgrp 4096 Nov 13 02:42 modules/cache/
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refizuluser has got write permission
Zhats it, I guess
Should work now
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Bsfezwhite page redoing sbox [02:11]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03fmg-sf r43928 10branches/10.x/setup.sh
tikiwiki [ENH] more single bit settings in setup
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refizulwhite page? [02:12]
Bsfezhttp://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/HomePage [02:13]
refizulI see a Tiki [02:13]
Bsfezah ! [02:13]
refizulThis is the default homepage for your Tiki. If you are seeing this page, your installation was successful. [02:13]
Bsfezchanging browser [02:14]
fabriciusrefizul: it is so cool, to have you in the team [02:14]
Bsfez+1 [02:14]
refizulfabricius: it's cool to have found the Tiki project [02:14]
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Bsfezok home is workign
http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-install.php is not
ah !
http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
http://xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-check.php
MySQL Database Properties
Property
Value
Tiki Fitness
Explanation
Version
5.1.61-0+squeeze1
Fatal error: Call to undefined function smarty_function_escape_special_chars() in /html/lib/smarty/libs/plugins/function.html_image.php on line 63
also http://www.xn--8dbamccdqxek3e0a.com/tiki-login_scr.php = white page
refizul: i'm sorry i can't keep up… 3h20 i falling...
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refizulBsfez: we are done with it
have a good night
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fabriciusn8 [02:19]
Bsfezmany many many tks for your perseverance !!!! [02:19]
refizulsmarty is not yet my business [02:19]
Bsfezi'll be glad to assist testing tomorrow
gd nite all
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refizulgn8
either suphp or sbox should work for phpsuexec, I suppose
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refizulDebug done - time for party! [02:24]
luatdohi marc [02:25]
marclaporte1http://www.cmscritic.com/peoples-choice-winner-for-best-free-cms-is/ [02:30]
refizulmarclaporte1: YEAH! PARTY! [02:31]
luciashyay !
site overload .)
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refizultiki.org is experiencing unusually high traffic. Please check back in a few minutes [02:32]
marclaporte1hahahah [02:33]
luciashprice for the winner ;) [02:33]
fabriciusshake hands to everybody
we faught - we won
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refizul...and now we must handle the masses running in our direction... [02:42]
Tiki|botInfo: Tiki wins People's Choice: Best Free CMS - http://info.tiki.org/article206-Tiki-wins-People-s-Choice-Best-Free-CMS [02:42]
marclaporte1marclaporte1 looks forward to having more pro-active monitoring of when site is overloaded. Is it too much traffic or code to be improved? [02:43]
refizulhard to say. what are the server capabilities?
octocore 10GB/s 32GB RAM? ;-)
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marclaporte1yes, something like that [02:47]
refizulor 486 2 Mbit/s 8MB RAM?
is there a frontend/backend structure with a reverse proxy?
PHP caching? There might be other webserver tuning methods
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marclaporte1No https://dev.tiki.org/Reverse+proxy yet [02:50]
refizulI'm running/administrating varnish for a NGO, eats ~50%
and this is not optimized
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marclaporte1ok, I don't know where bottleneck is, but in the future, changi and the infrastructure team can take a look at this
Maybe we should upgrade info.tiki.org, as I suspect it will make it faster
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refizulI recommend it. varnish -> frontend Apache -> backend Apache
depending on hardware, varnish + 1 apache
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marclaporte1Do we need to change anything in the app? [02:57]
refizulno, Tiki stays as is
thi is server adminstration voodoo only
with backend Apache it takes a 2nd virtual machine - that's all
My testtiki is running on this type of installation, 3 VMs: 1) varnish + frontend Apache, 2) backend Apache 3) MySQL
so you can change Tiki's Apache configuration at 2) without disturbing other websites in other backends
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ricks99 pops online to congrat the entire Tiki Community on yet another award!
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refizulricks99: cheers
refizul has got a dark one with foam
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ricks99ricks99 drinking a wheat ale :)
nice to see that we can win... when big three aren't included :)
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refizulBig three? Oracle, IBM, M$? [03:20]
ricks99joomla, drupal, wordpress [03:20]
refizulbig? two days ago I ran a 'du -sh' over a fresh checkout, ~500MB
but they are very popular, indeed
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ricks99gotta go, but just wanted to say "job well done" and "thank you" to all :) [03:24]
marclaporte1ricks99: good job to you rick, you set the groundwork
and then, we jumped for the last mile!
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ricks99+1 to all :) [03:25]
refizulI just wanted to ask who to write an article - but this is already done by Rick :-) [03:37]
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ahaha, just saw this: http://bsdroid.org/tiki-index.php
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refizulhaha - I rember to have seen this site, but I didn't notice it's powered by Tiki. [03:40]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #4343 - - Fatal error in the tiki directory - http://dev.tiki.org/item4343 [03:47]
refizulThis bug is the FAQ bug.
see: https://tiki.org/TWR%3A%3Aminor+issues
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03nkoth r43929 10branches/10.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php
tikiwiki [FIX] Wildcard should match 0 or more to match different zip mime types
tikiwiki 03nkoth r43930 10branches/9.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Files.php
tikiwiki [bp/r43929][FIX] Wildcard should match 0 or more to match different zip mime types
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NikharHi, Suppose I have given a user 'User X' permissions to add or remove members from a group ' Group Y'. Now I login as User X. How do I add or remove members from Group Y? [11:23]
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polom y'all [13:12]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43931 10trunk/lib/test/core/JisonParser/PluginTest.php
tikiwiki [FIX] expanding outline test, misc. line break
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03ricks99 r43932 10trunk/styles/layout/layout.css
tikiwiki [FIX]adjust display element to properly align the FORGOT PASSWORD link in popup
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03ricks99 r43933 10branches/9.x/styles/layout/layout.css
tikiwiki Backport of 43932 from
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Bsfezpolom [16:54]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Batch upload zip file contents in sequential order - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=45588 [16:58]
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luciashhi b [18:43]
Bsfezin 15mn we start a meeting about Tiki 10 at http://live.tiki.org/ (time to make coffee, smoke and a little more ;) )
hey l
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luciashyes [18:44]
Bsfezlusiach you'll be there ?
got things to check i 15mn
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fabriciusah 19:00 = 18:00 6 min left only
need milk from the shop damned!
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http://live.tiki.org/ we start
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Guest7412hi all - jonnyb here (finally) - still trying to find my freenode password :P
Bsfez1: i can probably do skype
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Guest7412hi fabricius - just trying to get logged on properly...
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luciashhi jonnyb, no bbb possible ? [19:09]
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Bsfez1jb, you can log on BBB (through web or Skype) ? [19:14]
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Bsfez1fabricius: here [20:18]
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RobertPlummerMobI've been blacklisted by dev.tiki.org for spam....
It knows more about me than I do apparently.
Bsfez1: You guys done in live.tiki.org?
Sorry running late.
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fabriciusBsfez: here
RobertPlummerMob: really? should check that
RobertPlummerMob: done in live.t.o, yes
Bernard and me want to chat about jcapture and mybe in general now
Bsfez: here or skype (type or audio?
)
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RobertPlummerMobBsfez1: ANything that would involve me? [20:34]
arildbrobertPlummerI went through the blacklisting too
it was freenode, in my instance
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fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: did not find you in banning list of t.o or in dev.t.o ... you mean the devlist or the website? [20:37]
arildbauto-blacklisting is not nice [20:38]
fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: involved not directly, as you fixed the tracker spreadsheet (btw: is that in 9, 10 and trunk ... not that we need to fix again)
RobertPlummerMob maybe blockers for 9.3 : some with blog and some with map, but we should get it fixed by then -> when you have planned 9.3?
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Bsfez1sorry here [20:41]
fabriciusarildb I do not see, where you or RobertPlummerMob should be blacklisted inside the community [20:41]
arildbfabricius: just happens sometimes [20:42]
fabriciusand arildb I do not see autoblacklisting on our website in that respect (you do not match the parameters ;-) ) [20:42]
arildbauto-checks can be good, but can have unpleasant cosequeses [20:42]
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arildbwith me it happend with freenode, not tiki [20:43]
jonnybyay! got my nick back! :) [20:44]
arildbdid you loose it? [20:44]
Bsfez1fabricius: can we talk time is getting a little thing :) [20:45]
jonnybhi arildb - yes, seemed to
had to reset password :(
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arildbjonnyb ...that you!
I hear wysiwyg is fixed in 10...I will test son...once I am sober...so tomorrow :-)
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jonnyb:D [20:48]
fabriciusBsfez: yes sure
I get a coffee and then call you skype, ok?
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Bsfez1Well for some reason i can't edit : https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=Tiki10
ok Torsten
it switch the wysiwyg editor (was wiki not so long ago) i select text i want to change but nada… can someone check he has this too ?
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fabriciusrehi
have my coffee
haven't you
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43934 10trunk/lib/ 10(9 files in 4 dirs)
tikiwiki [FIX] Some rollback to the way that tables are parsed, broke too many other things
tikiwiki [ENH] Took some of the parsing out of handler for links and into the real parser
tikiwiki [ENH] Added the test that is failing into the output test, will fix shortly
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fabriciusBsfez1: I just checked my notes: point is, that I had to convert the swf file from jcapture with the command line tool "ffmpeg" and figured out some parameter ... I just have noted some command, but did not come further, as I had different work then
Bsfez1: when you tried the jcapture, what you did and what happened?
Bsfez1: as far as I figured out, jcapture uses a compressed swf format, that I cannot play on my linux machine (ubuntu 12.04), why I have to convert after saving
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Bsfez1ok
i tried once very briefly :)
i don't use
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fabriciusBsfez1: the other issue is the time-out and there is no control or check, if and when the recording fails or stops before the time ... so if I want to record a lesson, it might work or it might not, which I only can check after saving and converting
Bsfez1: that leads to some time waste, but this seems to be an issue of the jcapture external project developers
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fabriciusBsfez1: next is that there are opportunities to configure jcapture - for ex change the encoding to s.th. different than compressed swf (ogg? avi?), but there is no UI for it and not much documentation for it
Bsfez1: so I need an afternoon or so, use it again, find the best workflow and note where I stuck and then try to get in contact with the jcapture devs
Bsfez1: in windows it seems to work fine and simple (maybe apart from the timeout?)
Bsfez1: could you check it on mac pls?
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Bsfez1fabricius: about the premature ending… jb suggest memory… may be you could talk about this with the jcapture dev ?
fabricius: yes where u want me to test ?
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fabriciusI will [21:10]
Bsfez1link [21:10]
RobertPlummerMoblphuberdeau: When I run a unit test on a new system, I get that TIkiLib isn't instantiated. It has been about 4 months since I've setup phpunit, what do you think?
lphuberdeau: vanilla TIki Trunk
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fabriciusah ... maybe on demo.t.o? [21:12]
Bsfez1np
set you sample i'll test (i have here Mac and Windows
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fabriciuswhat you mean with "set you sample"? [21:13]
Bsfez1set a page with your setting jcapture, perm, whatever [21:14]
fabriciusI can record a minute and you try to view ... and you try to record and we both try to view [21:14]
Bsfez1yes [21:14]
fabriciusI check if the feature is active in demo, if not I activate it and tell you ... brb [21:14]
Bsfez1np [21:15]
fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: what do you think, when will be the time that I can switch to jison and wysiwyg-wiki on a semi-productive website? want to test-use it. already there, or still better wait? [21:16]
RobertPlummerMobThe jison for rendering pages is stable enough. There are a few things that are buggy, but for the most part it is ready for testing.
fabricius: I use it daily now, as 95% of syntax is handled.
fabricius: wysiwyg is not ready though just yet.
fabricius: I ran into a small bug today that set me back, but hopefully between today and tomorrow we can get it ironed out.
fabricius: As soon as I get past that, I will upload a full database checker, it will cycle through your pages on your database (those who want to test them) and it will convert them to and from wiki syntax, essentially what wysiwyg needs and will send back to tiki.
fabricius: THen we just have to worry about sending what the ckeditor parses to the editor and receiving data from it
fabricius: And since all the syntax are handled the same, either a wiki tag, or a wiki helper, we just restore the wiki tags, and we are done.
fabricius: The development time spent on the new wysiwyg is going to be much less because we are using standards and simple conversion methods rather than a bunch of guess work like the last parser.
fabricius: At least that is the hope ;)
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fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: what kind of database you need - do you need actually pages whichare made with the old existing wysiwyg? [21:26]
Bsfez1arildb: ? [21:27]
RobertPlummerMobfabricius: wiki syntax, existing pages.
fabricius: The goal is to create a data transportation layer with html5 that the wysiwyg editor doesn't know about.
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sorry, jcapture did freeze my pc ... RobertPlummerMob could you pls query me if any text was posted between my last post and now, to be on track? thx
hate it to be thrown out in the middle of a chat
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Bsfez1: somehow I cannot resize the applet before I record and I cannot interfere with the applet after recording ... a screenshot I can take and save alright
Bsfez1: ah now
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Bsfez1i'm here for 30mn torsten (not everynig at 3am… kids wake up at 6am !!!!!) :D [21:44]
fabriciusin a minute you can check my music and voice on demo, if it works
hmm encoding ... maybe hanging
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Bsfez1ok [21:47]
fabriciusI have png up and a video without sound
the soundcheck video is hanging on encoding sound arrrgl
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fabriciusBsfez1: pls check and then your turn: http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=4 [21:55]
Bsfez1on my way
hu what you want me to do ?
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fabriciusRobertPlummer, say, did you answer me between 21:25 and 21:31 (about 25 minutes ago) ... my pc was freezing and disconnected on a cruel shutoff
Bsfez1: check if you can view the videos
tell me
in the sound video I asked you to do s.th.
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Bsfez1k
ff opening http://demo.tiki.org/10x/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3 video ok, sound ugly (can't ear)
mac
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fabriciuscan't hear or can barely understand? [22:03]
Bsfez1can ear noise [22:03]
fabriciusok
can be my setup, but generally it works?
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Bsfez1note that i could open the file as flash (not just the player) is on my machine [22:04]
fabriciuswin?
mac
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Bsfez1windows is same file, can't open it [22:04]
fabriciusahh
why?
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Bsfez1ff was mac
now it is a second try, win ie9
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fabriciusmaybe not or different flash?
I would like different encoding from start
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Bsfez1on my Mac i have Flash the program, not only the player or the plugin so the program was used to open the .swf
not sure it is possible to open a .swf directly
should be embedded
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fabriciusany analysis about the outcome yet?
I think it generally works, but very dependant on the local environment - especially to play it
recording seems to work kind of independant from the environment ... what is good
different - opensource - encoding would be better I believe
I cannot play it, but I will try to convert it later on today (after checking the mail to lindon) and then add the conversion command to the doc page
going for a fag now
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RobertPlummerMobBsfez1: You were having issues installing tiki?
fabricius: The jison for rendering pages is stable enough. There are a few things that are buggy, but for the most part it is ready for testing.
fabricius: I use it daily now, as 95% of syntax is handled. 03:20:54 PM
fabricius: wysiwyg is not ready though just yet. 03:21:06 PM
fabricius: I ran into a small bug today that set me back, but hopefully between today and tomorrow we can get it ironed out. 03:21:31 PM
fabricius: As soon as I get past that, I will upload a full database checker, it will cycle through your pages on your database (those who want to test them) and it will convert them to and from wiki syntax, essentially what wysiwyg needs and will send back to tiki. 03:22:24 PM
fabricius: THen we just have to worry about sending what the ckeditor parses to the editor and receiving data from it 03:24:03 PM
fabricius: And since all the syntax are handled the same, either a wiki tag, or a wiki helper, we just restore the wiki tags, and we are done. 03:24:51 PM
fabricius: The development time spent on the new wysiwyg is going to be much less because we are using standards and simple conversion methods rather than a bunch of guess work like the last parser. 03:25:35 PM
fabricius: At least that is the hope
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Bsfez1sry i can't be online… just answering
RobertPlummerMob: yes pour it was because i used a box with sbox. Not tiki related.
Btw i'm setting a clean tiki with just a blog, tomorrow i should test wysiwyg/jison
fabricius: sry let's try to check jcapture tomorrow
gd nite all
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fabriciusgn8
thx RobertPlummerMob
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RobertPlummerMobfabricius: We are going to have so much fun with this new parser. [22:43]
Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43935 10trunk/lib/init/smarty.php
tikiwiki [FIX] tikilib is not in existence this early on cli, check for existence before calling methods
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fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: yes in specific and having fun with Tiki in general ;-) [22:45]
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RobertPlummerMobfabricius: WOOHOO, just found and fixed the bug with line breaks directly before tables!
fabricius: Line breaks are the single most pesky syntax of all wiki syntax, I've probably spent 50 hours on them in the new parser, and this signifies (possibly) the last one
I love running phpunit and see a big green "OK (tests asserted)"
all, ckeditor 4 development in jison wysiwyg development starting up! Wooohoo!
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Tiki-KGBtikiwiki 03robertplummer r43936 10trunk/lib/core/ 10JisonParser/Wiki/Handler.php 10JisonParser/Wiki.jison 10JisonParser/Wiki.js 10JisonParser/Wiki.php
tikiwiki [FIX] table would not allow you to have a break directly before it, reason was that tablestack was being checked too late, after table would be lexed, which checked the "n" for being a block, answer was to check earlier, in the lexer rather than in the handler
tikiwiki 03lphuberdeau r43937 10branches/10.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-maps.js
tikiwiki [FIX] Need to check for the global google object under window to detect if it has been loaded
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fabriciusRobertPlummerMob: congrats and wooohooo
RobertPlummerMob: I see me soon working with a jison based wysiwyg-wiki editor on the two new intranet projects
RobertPlummerMob: => there are one or a few spots, where we haven't yet implemented WYSIWYG => for example in the 'Articles' feature we have WYSIWYG in the articles body textfield, but not in the article header textfield
RobertPlummerMob: => who you think would be the man/woman to get this hole(s) closed? I think it is at least important due to consistency and this is an issue since at least .... several releases
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RobertPlummerMobfabricius: I'm not sure yet, perhaps we can talk about it?
fabricius: Guess what I just got running?
ckeditr4 + jisonparser in tiki (not committed)
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fabriciuswooohooo RobertPlummerMob
RobertPlummerMob: you want perhabs to talk about that with me?
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RobertPlummerMobfabricius: It is loading right now, it'll be awhile before it is rendering and saving and the toolbar is hooked up.
I'm login off, gonna go get some food.
fabricius: Meet me tomorrow afternoon, we will talk about all the wysiwyg you want.
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