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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r40253 10/trunk/lang/he/language.php: [TRA] hebrew translation progress [0:23]
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g'morning 		[10:16]
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blackbird_is there a way to include pages (or parts of it) into other pages? e.g. I created a page about sparrows and now want to create a page about birds and include the page about sparrows? [10:33]
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xaviblackbird_: see http://doc.tiki.org/PluginInclude [10:53]
blackbird_thnx [10:55]
xaviyou are welcome [11:0]
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Bernard1Hi blackbird_, xavi ! [11:19]
blackbird_hi Bernard1
or as I learned to say: polom! .-) 		[11:20]
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xavihi Bernard1 [11:51]
Bernard1polom blackbird_
:)
Xavi have you ever use mail notification in another language than en ? 		[11:53]
xaviBernard1: yes [11:53]
Bernard1do you have an sample of use that work, i need some ref. i'm trying to check why i can't get "he" messages
I mean i use article submission, post and wiki editing = no translation :( 		[11:55]
xaviI'm using proposals/6x...
let me check... 		[12:6]
Bernard1tks [12:6]
xaviBernard1: emails from wiki page monitoring just works (the strings that are translated in language.php come translated in the email)
Bernard1: just play with the tiki settings under "Admin home > multilingual", and ensure that your user has selected the right language preferences under his user preferences, etc. 		[12:8]
Bernard1ok… that's give me some direction.
(never used notification b4r) 		[12:10]
xaviread this: http://doc.tiki.org/i18n
and http://doc.tiki.org/Watch 		[12:16]
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polom 		[12:21]
xavipom-pom
how are you jonnyb? 		[12:22]
jonnybjonnyb is glad to finally be back at home
:) 		[12:22]
xavistill somewhere up north uk?
ah, ok 		[12:22]
jonnybno, back [12:23]
xavixavi should read all messages before writing on irc [12:23]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r40254 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] icons: Tidier reporting of smarty security errors [12:23]
jonnybhi ricks99 too [12:23]
ricks99polom y'all [12:24]
jonnybxavi: did you get a chance to re-check the structures admin fixes? [12:24]
xavibtw, jonnyb, after more than 2 years looking around, I finally found something like the usb device you showed me in 2009 (?) to plug an external mic to a macbook* laptop
hi ricks99 		[12:24]
ricks99hi xavi & jonnyb [12:24]
xavijonnyb: re-check, nope, I'll do today [12:24]
jonnybi'm going to try and do the same to menu admin before we branch... [12:25]
xaviricks99: I saw a few days ago that there is a copy of tiki for smarties on scribd
is that right, or was I dreaming?
oups, ricks99 dissapeared
jonnyb: btw, did you see the work I did identifying the mysql tables that need (deserve) and search&replace for pics/icons into img/icons at the upgrade process?
I reported everything in http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki9 		[12:25]
jonnybno sorry, missed that [12:26]
xaviand started searching for the mysql commands to replace those paths with a sql script
but I'm not sure (newbie here, yet) if this also applied to BLOB fields in mysql tables, etc. 		[12:26]
jonnybi tihnk the fix to the icon object should make most WSoD's go away now [12:27]
xavijonnyb: and JSmin issues? [12:27]
jonnybyou can't do the toolbar patth fixes with sql - needs to be php [12:27]
xaviproducing WSOD still a few days ago for me in a few different servers when attempting upgrades from 6x [12:28]
jonnybnot seen them, so can't reproduce i'm afraid [12:28]
xavitoolbar fixes: the path to the icon was stored in tiki_preferences table, for what I saw
why not using just sql?
^newbie question for sure 		[12:28]
jonnybhttp://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=40232&view=rev
cos they are serialized php objects (well, you did ask!)
it stores the length of the string as well in there, so if you change a value you have to recalculate that 		[12:28]
xaviah, ok, thanks (slowly learning)
however, beyond my skills, I presume.... so I hope that my work identifying those tables would help to others to make that php fix 		[12:30]
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back :-) 		[12:39]
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xavihi ricks99-back :-)
ricks99: I saw a few days ago that there is a copy of tiki for smarties on scribd
was I dreaming?
I tried to log in scribd to download it, but then it requested my facebook credentials, and I was informed that I would be granting too many permissions to scribd to do in my facebook account, etc. , so I disabled all those extra permissions granted, ... the result is that I couldn't see the download link of the tiki for smarties book.... 		[12:42]
ricks99y. i refreshed the scribd versions of "Smarties" and "Essentials" a few weeks ago [12:44]
xavithe fact if that I scanned a couple of chapters for my users, so that whan we have some workshop teaching our users about tiki trackers, then I give them a copy of those chapters, as scanned-and-printed again (in black and white) [12:45]
ricks99hm... *supposed* to be public/free.... let me check [12:45]
xaviand some of them just want to read them every now and then online...
and they would appreciate to have that in color, or course (the books I bought are in black and white) 		[12:45]
ricks99The quality of the Scribd PDF is so-so... it is a straight dump from Tiki [12:45]
xaviand so are the scanned pages, of course [12:46]
ricks99I can make color books avaialable, if you're interested... not sure of the pricing [12:46]
xaviquality of Scribd pdf would be probably be fine. If they want a better quality document, they can buy your books :-) [12:46]
ricks99:-)
Ahh... I see Scribd changed their TOS... you must have an account and log in (either Scribd or Facebook) to download the PDF 		[12:46]
xavimmmm, ok. I did have some account on scribd years ago... I 'll see if I can recover the username and password [12:48]
ricks99you can always just make a Scribd account, instead of using FB login
sorry about that... do you know of any better/other alternatives? 		[12:48]
xaviyes, thanks, I'll try something like that, for the next time I have to organize another workshop (last one was yesterday with a bunch of my co-workers) [12:49]
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xavijquery media plugin, to display pdf's online?
that used to work in the past with tiki something....
but stopped working afaik 		[12:49]
ricks99can simply use HTML plugin.. <embed....>
requires Acro Reader on the user's PC though
.... or just tell your co-workers to buy the book. :-) 		[12:50]
Bernard1polom back [12:54]
ricks99hi Bernard1 [12:56]
jonnybcan anyone suggest the "best" irc client for Windoze? [12:59]
ricks99i like trillian [12:59]
Bernard1i used pidgin, was fine [12:59]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: pidgin. [12:59]
jonnybhi RobertPlummer [13:0]
NachoMahmaFileZilla works well for me [13:1]
jonnybthanks all [13:2]
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RobertPlummerhi jonnyb [13:10]
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RobertPlummerWe are all pretty active today, aye? [13:10]
jonnybhi RobertPlummer [13:10]
RobertPlummerTime for a branch everybody? [13:10]
jonnyband hi frumplete
no, not yet pls RobertPlummer 		[13:10]
frumpletehi Jonny - this is well old school [13:11]
RobertPlummer:) [13:11]
jonnybon a call with frumplete (who really i called Simon) introducing him to you all
he's reading ricks99's book(s) 		[13:11]
RobertPlummerHey frumplete [13:11]
ricks99ricks99 happy to be the best-selling tiki author of ALL TIME. [13:12]
jonnyb:D [13:12]
RobertPlummerricks99: How many books thus far? [13:12]
ricks992. with 1 German translation under way, and an entire "series" of guides planned [13:12]
frumpleteHi Robert - Jonny is just holding my hand through this [13:12]
ricks99hiya frumplete [13:12]
RobertPlummerfrumplete: Tiki admins are great at that. [13:13]
frumpletehi ricks99 [13:13]
RobertPlummerfrumplete: You will be an avid Tiki-er be for long. [13:13]
frumpleteJonny thought this would be a good place to come if i WAS LOSt and he wasn't arouind [13:13]
RobertPlummerfrumplete: Yea, the thing about Tiki is that it has so many sides, and there are experts of all of them. [13:14]
blackbird_I can't upload files ("cannot write to this file") – but I have correctly set chmod/chown and my php.ini max file size vars. anyone any idea what still might be wrong? [13:14]
ricks99blackbird_: you're saving the files in a file directory, right? did you include the "/" ? [13:15]
xaviback [13:17]
blackbird_ricks99: yes, in directory. you mean the trailing slash? [13:17]
ricks99correct [13:17]
xaviricks99: that's what I always say: buy the book. :-) and in the mean time, where you have a low-quality version in pdf of thoese chapter, etc. [13:18]
ricks99xavi: curious... where does the shipping originate when you ordered? UK? [13:19]
blackbird_ricks99: yes, included the trailing slash [13:20]
xaviricks99: no idea.... months ago
ricks99: I first ordered one copy of each, just after you publised them 		[13:21]
ricks99blackbird_: is the directory outside your tiki root? [13:21]
xaviand a few months ago (9?) I ordered 3 copies of each [13:22]
blackbird_ricks99: no, it's inside
and I am using the relative path "files/uploads/"
occuring error: "[...] file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory" 		[13:22]
xaviblackbird_: check the path
if this is supposed to be a subfolder from your tiki install , you need to add a dot infront 		[13:23]
ricks99"<TIKI ROOT> / files / uploads" is valid? And correct perms? [13:23]
xavior as ricjks says, absolute path [13:24]
ricks99on your file admin page, is your path "/files/upload/" or "files/upload/" ? [13:24]
xavifor relative, you might try with: "./files/uploads" [13:24]
blackbird_no, it is a subfolder from my tiki folder. I have correct rights (777) and it is "files/uploads/" in my tiki admin
I'll try the dot variant 		[13:25]
xaviand check perms on both folders (files and uploads) [13:26]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40255 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_convene.php: [ENH] Added convene-ok and convene-no classes for styling convene plugin [13:27]
blackbird_yeah, perms are 775 (not 777) for files/ and files/uploads [13:27]
ricks99if path is relative, nees to *NOT* have "/" in front [13:28]
blackbird_./files/uploads does not work either, but curiously it still says: "file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory" – what tells me that it still uses the /files/uploads what is not relative but absolute
ricks99: yeah, that's clear. /files/uploads is absolute, beginning from root (/) 		[13:28]
ricks99this is tiki 8.3? [13:29]
blackbird_ricks99: yes [13:30]
ricks99and your 1000% sure no typos in directory name? and 7-7-5 for FILES and UPLOADS
ricks99 *always* makes typos :( 		[13:31]
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someone availabale ?
I am goignt o upgrade from 2.2 to 8.2 , what should I proceed ? 3.8 then 5.x then 6.x then 8.x ? 		[13:33]
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ricks99Hammer: you can upgrade directly, but be aware of *many* changes. review all release notes [13:36]
blackbird_so back to topic, still doesn't work. I was using "files/uploads" and "./files/uploads" but it always tells me it can't upload to "/files/uploads" [13:36]
Hammer_if i wanna go [13:36]
blackbird_I'll try using an absolut path [13:36]
Hammer_through old ones
what do u recommend
? 		[13:36]
ricks99Hammer_: I see no reason to go through all the old ones. Again, be sure to review the release noetes. There were *many* important changes (perms, plugins, etc.) from 2.x -> 8.x
blackbird_: you're 1000% sure that there is no typo in folder name and that perm is 7-7-5? 		[13:37]
blackbird_yes, sure on both [13:37]
Hammer_i dotn really use many plugins in my pages-----most likely : maketoc , div, BOX, Split
that's all
and table of course 		[13:38]
ricks99blackbird_: when you creaed the tiki gallery, are you using any special options? (such as require regex match, etc.?)
Hammer_: run a test... be sure to backup first! 		[13:38]
Hammer_ok
I will 		[13:39]
blackbird_no, I haven't [13:39]
Hammer_is there a procedue on how to export my DATABASE using PHPmyADMIN
?
can I export it while wiki running ? 		[13:40]
ricks99Hammer_: see http://bit.ly/GBbqRs <shamless plug>
blackbird_: for a test, can you switch to saving in db and try a quick upload. if it works, then i'm 99.99% sure it is a setup issue -- not a tiki failure, per se 		[13:43]
blackbird_ricks99: ok [13:45]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40256 10/trunk/lib/core/Feed/ForwardLink.php: [FIX] Added trim for selected text, so that suggestion and selection work the same [13:48]
blackbird_ricks99, xavi: this is weird. I changed to the absolute path but it still says "file_put_contents(/files/uploads/f170542cb6fd2f68d5e3e7298af73377): failed to open stream: No such file or directory"
ricks99: even more weird: I changed to saving in db and it still has the same error...?! 		[13:48]
ricks99did you clear tiki cache? [13:50]
blackbird_hmmm, no... ;) [13:54]
ricks99ah ha! [13:56]
Hammer_ricks
?
my database is 40 MB
i will import it manually
but u think i should change php.ini[14:1] Hammer_ ?
max_exuction_time
? 		[14:0]
ricks99ok [14:1]
Hammer_should i do anything with php.ini ?
or no 		[14:2]
ricks99for recommended php.ini settings, see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/requirements [14:4]
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Hammer_ricks last question
8.2 or 8.3 should i use
:) ?
2.2 to 8.3 is good ?
dont worry about the changes in between ...i ll take care of that 		[14:12]
ricks99current release is 8.3 see http://tiki.org/download [14:13]
Hammer_i know
but upgarde to this from 2.2. 		[14:14]
ricks99use 8.3 -- not 8.2 ^^^ [14:14]
Hammer_is also good workable
right ?
ok :)
:) 		[14:14]
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Jyhem_laptoppolom [14:27]
jonnybhi Jyhem_laptop [14:28]
Jyhem_laptophi jonnyb [14:28]
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ricks99: even after clearing cache no satisfactory result.
:/ 		[14:37]
ricks99blackbird_: can you review server logs? I'm at a loss -- should work [14:39]
blackbird_np, I'll check the logs [14:41]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r40257 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.icon.php: [FIX] icons: Another improvement of reporting of smarty security errors (keep link, size etc from intended icon) [14:54]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40258 10/trunk/ (16 files in 9 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] TrackerQueryLib becomes Tracker_Query, and is now included as part of the Zend class system
tikiwiki: [ENH] Before TrackerQueryLib was initiated at startup, but now needed to change a few methods to static to ensure loading correctly 		[15:2]
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Bernard1i had to change a text string for clarification in a .tpl file. What is the right process then for the lang files ? (i can commit en, fr and he) but i want to be sure it is ok. [15:10]
RobertPlummerXavi and I are talking about using folders/not using folders for tiki "apps", one example is invoice and another is admin.
What do you guys think?
I'd like to move anything to do with tiki invoice to it's own folder, so that it makes developing faster. 		[15:14]
blackbird_Bernard1: please commit de as well .-) [15:14]
RobertPlummerI don't have to find all the files when I start developing. [15:14]
blackbird_RobertPlummer: I personally support the approach of putting app files into an app specific folder [15:15]
RobertPlummerWe already did it with admin, lets to it with others. [15:16]
Bernard1blackbird_: i should have spoke german for that
:) 		[15:16]
xaviRobertPlummer: maybe the devel list is needed for this discussion, if you don't get enough feedback for long standing developers of tiki with this change you propose [15:16]
blackbird_Bernard1: can you /msg me the parts so I can translate? [15:16]
RobertPlummerxavi, I have enough +1's for tiki/invoice, I guess the question comes down to should we make a folder for just apps? [15:17]
xavifor the sake of completeness to be included in the irc log, I copy here the arguments from jyhem in skype: [15:17]
RobertPlummerok [15:17]
xavijyhem: If pages have urls like /apps/something I guess nobody knows how the images and css will react, especially for third party included stuff, like ckeditor
jyhem: not to mention sefurls 		[15:17]
Bernard1blackbird_: wait i get confirmation this is ok. [15:18]
RobertPlummerBut we already have tiki/admin, why not follow that same approach. [15:18]
xaviRobert, regarding speed (in life), there is a quote I like a lot from the grass-roots movements in Spain from this last year:
"we are slow, because we go far away"
kind of ("vamos lentos porque vamos lejos")
keep it in mind, I would say, when you are worried about "speed"
my 2 cents
xavi back to urgent work for today 		[15:18]
Jyhem_laptopI see that the admin directory only has include files in it, so my concern about urls like /apps/something is void
Jyhem_laptop wonders if xavi's quote is like "today's problems are yesterday's solutions" :-)
Remaining concern: what happens on a Tiki site with sefurls active and someone creates the wiki page "apps" and there is a "apps" directory ? Trouble ? No trouble ? One more line in .htaccess ?
Jyhem_laptop avoids sefurls, so I have no ready site to test that 		[15:21]
ricks99Jyhem_laptop: handled by htaccess. compare http://doc.tiki.org/Modules with http://doc.tiki.org/modules [15:26]
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Jyhem_laptopJyhem_laptop sees no reference to modules in _htaccess. So apparently, no issue on that side either
oh, http://doc.tiki.org/modules gets an error :-( 		[15:31]
NachoMahmaCapital-M and singular
http://doc.tiki.org/Module 		[15:34]
Jyhem_laptopJyhem_laptop wonders if features would not convey the meaning better than apps. Definitely a conversation for he mailing list
NachoMahma: my point was not to access the doc page, I was looking at the consequences of having a "modules" directory in the Tiki root folder 		[15:40]
NachoMahmaOh. http://doc.tiki.org/modules/ [15:42]
Hammer_question
question
Urgent
when I am imnporting my databse
i get an error 		[16:8]
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Hammer_Error 1062 (23000) at line 365 Duplicate entry 1 for key PRIMARY [16:10]
blackbird_And http://doc.tiki.org/Structure is also not found (linked from tiki admin) [16:10]
Hammer_? [16:12]
JyhemHammer_: the db importing stuff must be a collation or encoding change [16:17]
Hammer_what do u mean
?
i already set my db to be UTF 		[16:18]
Jyhemwhat were collation and encoding before you exported ?
OK, that's the new encoding
where does the db come from ? 		[16:18]
Hammer_Phpmuyadmin
i export it from there
when I forst login into phpmyadmin 		[16:19]
Jyhemsame site ? [16:19]
Hammer_i see
MySQL charset: UTF-8 Unicode (utf8)
when i click on my database 		[16:19]
Jyhemsorry, encoding == charset [16:20]
Hammer_i see collation : latin swedish [16:20]
Jyhemis that the origin db (fro which you exported the db) ? [16:21]
Hammer_yes
origin 		[16:21]
Jyhemand the destination db ? [16:21]
Hammer_i set it up using
Webmin
on redhat
utf 8 as encosing
and collation = tuf 8 general 		[16:21]
Jyhemoh, wait... the origin db is inconsistent :-( [16:23]
Hammer_what does thart mean ?
lol 		[16:24]
JyhemYou have UTF8 content, but it believes you have latin content for the collaton rules [16:25]
Hammer_yes
how i fix that ?
they set it up in 2008 by default
i guess 		[16:25]
Jyhemcollation rules are the rules which say what is the order of letters in alphabet, and also, which letter is the same as the other [16:25]
Hammer_so it took latin swedish [16:25]
Jyhemdo you have accents in your db ? [16:26]
Hammer_yes
i think 		[16:27]
Jyhemyou might have one page named "test" and one named "tést". [16:27]
Hammer_umm no [16:28]
Jyhemwith correct collation, this is impossible (same key) [16:28]
Hammer_OH shitttt i imported it to a database
that the use has no access to
lol
i have wikitest and testwiki
i choose the incorret one that's running 		[16:28]
JyhemAhhh, then it already had content ? [16:29]
Hammer_no first dababase has 0 conetent
i should overite the one
that tiki use
what's the link for the installer again ? 		[16:29]
Jyhemtiki-installer.php [16:30]
Hammer_i deleted it my databse
how can I overstart 		[16:31]
Jyhemsorry tiki-install.php [16:31]
Hammer_yea
but it is asking me if databse is running LOL
my databse is nio longer there 		[16:32]
Jyhemwhat, restart from srcatch ? rename db/local.php [16:33]
blackbird_I am still wondering, why my file upload does not work properly. I set up the path relatively ("files/uploads/") but it always gives me the error that it couldn't find the path "/files/uploads/" (which is an absolute path) [16:34]
Hammer_Cool [16:34]
blackbird_any1 any idea what is wrong here? perms correct (775) on files/ and on files/uploads/ – and cache already cleared... [16:35]
Jyhemno idea [16:36]
Hammer_mysql -u username -p --default-character-set=latin1 database < backup.sql[16:45] Hammer_ did not work also
mysql -u username -p --default-character-set=latin1 database < backup.sql 		[16:45]
Jyhem_laptopI suggest exporting with mysqldump -u username -p -Qqf --skip-extended-insert db > backup.sql
then mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql
Then collect the lines with issues and look at them
with --skip-extended-insert you have an insert per line, so you know what is wrong
with --force, you don't die at the first error, so you still get all correct data in the db 		[17:2]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40259 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Query.php: [ENH] Moved tracker id to method, working on replace item [17:36]
Hammer_Jym can I run this command
on phpmyadmin
or it has to be on the server ? 		[17:44]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r40260 10/trunk/ (lib/smarty_tiki/function.menu.php modules/mod-func-menu.php): [FIX] menu module: Handle structure "name" as well as numeric id and process title properly [17:49]
xaviRobertPlummer: fyi: I clicked at "edit sheet" button for http://dev.tiki.org/sheet11 and I got a never ending loop in a white page [17:54]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r40261 10/trunk/lang/he/language.php: [TRA] hebrew translation progress
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r40262 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] minor strings correction
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r40263 10/trunk/lang/en/language.php: [TRA] minor strings correction
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Hammer_Jyhem
? 		[18:1]
Jyhem_laptopsorry, busy elsewhere.
that's command line
--default-character-set=latin1 looks like a big step backwards 		[18:2]
Hammer_line 4532 duplaicate entry "Created tiki-page' for key"
i got like 10 errors
10 lines 		[18:3]
Jyhem_laptopwhat's one of the lines? [18:5]
Hammer_could because I am over wiriting into the current empty databse ? [18:5]
Jyhem_laptopsay, line 4532 ? [18:5]
Hammer_INSERT INTO `tiki_actionlog_conf` (`id`, `action`, `objectType`, `status`) VALUES
this is the line 		[18:6]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: user access to their preferences - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=43620 [18:6]
Jyhem_laptopdoes not look like it "Created tiki-page' [18:7]
Hammer_could be because I am over writing the current database ? [18:7]
Jyhem_laptopare you sure it's line 4532 of backup.sql ? [18:7]
Hammer_yea
i run 8.3 with the current databse
like empty databse
u know what i mean
then i impiorting this old databse to it
?
importing
could be the reason ? 		[18:8]
Jyhem_laptopthe old database is in backup.sql and you got this error doing mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql ? [18:10]
Hammer_yes
of course db in my case is tikitest
is called tikitest 		[18:11]
Jyhem_laptopare all the 10 errors about tiki_actionlog_conf ? [18:12]
Hammer_no
i got 		[18:13]
Jyhem_laptopbecause I don't think anyone cares about a missing line in tiki_actionlog_conf [18:13]
Hammer_duplicate entry '1' for key primary
duplicate entry '6'
duplicate entry '1' for key primary : there 4 lines of this 		[18:13]
Jyhem_laptopwhat is the corresponding line ? [18:14]
Hammer_INSERT INTO `tiki_integrator_reps` (`repID`, `name`, `path`, `start_page`, `css_file`, `visibility`, `cacheable`, `expiration`, `description`) VALUES
weird eh 		[18:15]
Jyhem_laptopwow, no idea about that line.
did you say that you imported over an existing database ? 		[18:16]
Hammer_yes
the one
by default i crreated 		[18:16]
Jyhem_laptopohhhh [18:16]
Hammer_when i indtalled
installed
8.3
u know ? the on that has only
user Admin
in users 		[18:16]
Jyhem_laptopand the previous one is also 8.3 ? [18:17]
Hammer_lol
no
2.2 		[18:17]
Jyhem_laptop:-( [18:19]
Hammer_could be the reason ? [18:19]
Jyhem_laptopI thought you had trouble migrating a tiki db from site to site. [18:19]
Hammer_No man [18:20]
Jyhem_laptopYes, that could be the reason. [18:20]
Hammer_upgrade from 2.2 to 8.2
8.3
should I go 3.x then 6.x
first ?
or what ?
how do I proceed 		[18:20]
Jyhem_laptopnot sure
http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade 		[18:22]
Hammer_btw why when i exported sql using dump
thefile is almost half the size
when u use phpmyadmin
? 		[18:23]
Jyhem_laptopAnyway, even if direct 2.2 → 8.3 works, you need to import backup.sql into an empty database (really empty, just created, no tables in it), then go to tiki-install.php not create a 8.3 somewhat empty database
phpmyadmin probably uses a more complete syntax. No worry. 		[18:24]
Hammer_ok i am gonna create one empty database
utf8 		[18:26]
Jyhem_laptopso I suggest you empty the database from phpmyadmin (or recreate it) and then mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql should not show errors
utf8, yes 		[18:27]
Hammer_what collation order
?
utf_general_Ci ? 		[18:27]
Jyhem_laptopyes, or utf_unicode_ci [18:28]
Hammer_ok and i gace the user all the permission
i gave the user
now i am gonna use phpmyadmin databse
first
ok ?
well done :)
now I have to re run the insallater
i ll rename the db/local first 1 sec 		[18:30]
Jyhemdid you do mysql --force --user=username-p db < backup.sql ? [18:34]
Hammer_no mysql -u username -p db < backup.sql [18:34]
Jyhemso you start with a tiki 2.2 database on tiki 8.3 source code ? [18:34]
Hammer_just normal command
yes
i will have to run the installer
i did not run it yet 		[18:34]
Jyhemwhat normal command ? [18:35]
Hammer_mysql -u username -p db < backup.sql
i did not use --force 		[18:35]
Jyhemok, of there is no error, it is the same [18:35]
Hammer_no errors
now the insllter
ready ?
LOL ? 		[18:35]
Jyhemthen --force is useless :-)
yes 		[18:36]
Hammer_there is some php erroes at the bottome
should i ignore them ?
warnings
ype: strftime(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. Y
i can ignore these
i gues 		[18:36]
Jyhemignore
they are for developpers 		[18:37]
Hammer_Tiki cannot find a database connection. This is normal for a new installation.
i will write the new databse name 		[18:39]
Jyhemwell, you remved local.php
go ahead
well, you removed local.php 		[18:39]
Hammer_Always force connection to use UTF-8
check this ?
by default it is 		[18:39]
Jyhemyes [18:40]
Hammer_Something is wrong with the database encoding. The schema has UTF-8 as default encoding but some tables in the schema have a different collation, latin1_swedish_ci. Co
Converting to UTF-8 may solve this but may also make matters worse. You should investigate what happened or only proceed with backups.
i will click convert 		[18:40]
Jyhemhmmm no [18:41]
Hammer_? [18:41]
Jyhemchances are, the encoding really is good [18:41]
Hammer_so go with the upgrade button ? [18:41]
Jyhemso don't fix unti you verified that there is a problem to fix
you can always come back to the installer
yes 		[18:41]
Hammer_Upgrade operations executed successfully: 2288 SQL queries.
Operations failed: 1 SQL queries. Display details.
let me check that one 		[18:42]
Jyhemneat
sure 		[18:42]
Hammer_20090206_content_tpl_menu_tiki
it is this
INSERT INTO `tiki_menu_options` (`menuId`, `type`, `name`, `url`, `position`, `section`, `perm`, `groupname`, `userlevel`) SELECT 42,'o','Content Templates','tiki-
admin_content_templates.php',1256,'','tiki_p_edit_content_templates','',0 FROM `tiki_menu_options` WHERE @fgcant = 0
Duplicate entry '42-Content Templates-tiki-admin_content_templates.php-1256--tiki' for key 'uniq_menu
that s about it 		[18:43]
JyhemI'd ignore that. Really
go ahead 		[18:45]
Hammer_configure general settings page now
some PHp notices at the bottom , should i ignore ? 		[18:45]
Jyhemyes, always [18:46]
Hammer_Logging and Reporting
i m gonna check
visible to admin only
and select report all errors expect notices
cool ? 		[18:46]
Jyhemyes, otherwise other people wonder about notices and warnnings
"visible to admin only" is important. he rest is as uyou like 		[18:47]
Hammer_cool
done
i got the first page
:)
what s the admin password though ?
i can use any user from previous databse
I am in 		[18:47]
Jyhemno encoding issues ? [18:49]
Hammer_yes i have
only the first page
but could be plugin
i used DIV
BOX
let me check the plugin 		[18:49]
JyhemI meant character encoding
like accented characters 		[18:50]
Hammer_no
:)
it looks good
very good actually 		[18:50]
Jyhemwow, nice ! I never participated in a 2.2 → 8.3 direct upgrade :-) [18:51]
Hammer_ummm
got something weird
wait
lol 		[18:51]
JyhemYou might still have a look at http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade :-) [18:52]
Hammer_Logging and Reporting [18:53]
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Hammer_i cannot paste it
wth
lol
ummmm
the ' is giving an encoding problem
and - too
othe rthan that it looks great 		[18:53]
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Hammer_It shows on my first page some icons for plugin
it is asking me to edit them when i click on it
Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator.
Utf8 compatible lower case filter needs mbstring extension to be enabled.
how do i fix this ? 		[19:5]
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ricks99Q: when using the carousel plugin.. how do i make each slide clickable? im using a specific file gallery. tried coding link in each item desc. no go :( [19:15]
Hammer_i wish i know
:) 		[19:18]
ricks99checked the code... dont see how to assign links from file gallery descriptions? [19:20]
Hammer_Ricks
how do i fix the plugins ?
i checked already 		[19:26]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r40266 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Query.php: [FIX] Need to check if numeric if not empty [19:26]
Hammer_they are enabled [19:26]
ricks99sorry... what's the issue with your plugins? [19:27]
Hammer_when i upgraded
2.2 to 8.2
no proble expect
fist page
with some plugins
like i can see the icon it says Edit
i see my line as characters 		[19:28]
ricks99look at the relnotes, i recall this... in some instances you'll need to re-approve all your plugings. there was a script that you could run before the upgrade in order to fix the issue [19:29]
Hammer_b234dfr4565666666&&34fgtght [19:29]
ricks99did u look at the release notes? [19:30]
Hammer_not at everything [19:30]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40267 10/trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: Trackers: save some stuff from List Trackers before getting rid of it [19:30]
Hammer_because i went direclty from 2.2 to 8.3
plus i have only one problem with this --> '
the encoding
of it 		[19:30]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40268 10/trunk/tiki-admin_trackers.php: [REF] Admin Trackers: Remove apparently unused uses_tabs and urlquery definitions [19:32]
ricks99did you check the encoding specified in your db.local file? does it match the encoding of your dump file? [19:32]
Hammer_no
going now to see
the db.local
under db/ ? 		[19:33]
ricks99Hammer_: you reallyou should review all the relnotes 2.x -> 8.x. For example, the encoding issue is fully documented: http://tiki.org/ReleaseNotes5.1#Database_Encoding [19:35]
Hammer_yea but i went directly to 8.3..............does that mean i have to go lower first ? [19:35]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40269 10/trunk/lib/articles/artlib.php: remove unused variables [19:38]
ricks99no. but you need to review all the notes between to be aware of all the changes.
2.x -> 8.x is a *BIG* jump 		[19:38]
Hammer_u asked me to test it out :) [19:38]
CIA-36tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r40270 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [ENH] add preference to display related articles at the bottom of a article page [19:38]
ricks99y. it works (i've dont it 1.9.x -> 8.x) but there are many things you need to know first [19:39]
Hammer_if i tell u the error it is giving me
u might know ? 		[19:39]
ricks99i will try [19:40]
Hammer_when i click edit plugin
then sumbit
even though if i dont want to edit it
i get this error :
Search index could not be updated. The site is misconfigured. Contact an administrator.
Utf8 compatible lower case filter needs mbstring extension to be enabled. 		[19:40]
ricks99is the mbstring extension enabled on your site? [19:41]
Hammer_i dunno
is that plugin ? 		[19:41]
ricks99no. it is an apache extension [19:42]
Hammer_ah [19:42]
ricks99if you're going to use the new search index instead of old mysql, there's a bunch of requirements.
need to review the search index feature doc if you're going to use it 		[19:42]
Hammer_how is this related to DIV SPLIT BOX plugins
? 		[19:43]
ricks99again, i highly recommend that you review the changes. for example: http://doc.tiki.org/Search+Index
any time you change a page's content, it affects the search 		[19:43]
Hammer_yea but my error is not related
to what u r saying
maybe i am wring 		[19:46]
ricks99sorry, but i don't understand [19:46]
Hammer_wrong
that error i get only
when i try to edit
my plugin 		[19:46]
ricks99if you are editing a plugin, you are changing the page. that kicks off the search index
issue 1: make sure your encoding is correct
issue 2: confirm that your server supports the search index
requirements 		[19:47]
Hammer_ok [19:48]
ricks99I'd start with those 2, if i were u [19:48]
Hammer_i just did a search
did not work
ok iw ill
i will 		[19:48]
ricks99and, if you're not going to use the 8.x features, you might consider using Tiki 6 LTS instead [19:49]
Hammer_Yea
i am gonna go 3.8 then 6 LTS
then 8.3
maybe that would fix my
encoding problem 		[19:49]
ricks99bbl [19:52]
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CIA-36tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40272 10/trunk/ (16 files in 9 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Trackers: Merge tiki-list_trackers and tiki-admin_trackers, using the generalized tiki-admin_trackers. The new interface is tiki-list_trackers.
tikiwiki: Reference: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/25367
tikiwiki: In list_trackers, creation and last modification dates do not show the time anymore (could be useful, but too noisy in current presentation)
tikiwiki: The new interface is generally called "Trackers", sometimes "List Trackers" 		[20:15]
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r40273 10/trunk/templates/tracker_actions.tpl: Fix svn:keywords (Id) [20:21]
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Sorry if this was asked before, I thougt I found how to resolve,but the resolution didn't fix the issue. Installed v8.1 and tried to install profile "Company_Intranet_8x" but received "An error occured during the profile validation. This profile cannot be applied. Message: Invalid URI supplied.". Chat post recommended to upgrade to v8.2 and I noticed v8.3 is out so I bypassed v8.2 and went
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Can anyone help me?
There are some exemples? 		[20:55]
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