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fabricius | refizul: are you already registered? I think not, if you do not know the community site | [00:17] |
refizul | fabricius: I'm registered, altered stuff in dev and doc, but I completely missed the community part.
My approach to things is - let's say: different ;-) | [00:21] |
fabricius | that's absolutely ok
refizul: do you know, why humans heads are round? | [00:22] |
refizul | I guess yes - something with changing direction?
another question arises... there is a little logo for external links at community.t.o (at least user pages) Is it possible to change this to another one for https hyperlinks? An optical distinction would be very helpful. | [00:23] |
fabricius | refizul: yes, that thinking can change the direction
hmmm I guess for that you need to extent some spots in some .tpl file(s) or php files or css? never thought about that little piece .... you r looking carefully after usability, isn't it? which I do like | [00:29] |
refizul | I'm used to notice little helpful stuff (and the missing of its presence) | [00:32] |
fabricius | we do need that in the community
actually we are heading on to refurbish the websites website revamp we call it maybe you want to join the team | [00:40] |
refizul | I think I'll not have much time for that.
My next project is the encrypted email stuff. | [00:55] |
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refizul | The account isn't permitted to edit at info.t.o, is it? I've got found a typo | [01:26] |
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fabricius | oops refizul just concentrated on different work
you r right - info is not commonly permitted which typo? | [01:44] |
refizul | German consultant site
https://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Berater first paragraph/section: zuhelfen -> zu helfen and below there: Benutzern f�rdern -> Benutzern zu f�rdern zugestimmt. durch -> zugestimmt. Durch | [01:47] |
fabricius | I would have bet a 100 Euro, that you are German
hehe | [01:51] |
refizul | Kunden auch die Tiki -> Kunden auch, die Tiki
Gemeinschaft sich weiter zu entwickeln. -> Gemeinschaft weiter zu entwickeln. | [01:52] |
fabricius | If you want, just send me an email with what you found and I just run through | [01:52] |
refizul | that's it (for the beginning) | [01:52] |
fabricius | -> torsten@tiki.org
ah that's all ok | [01:52] |
refizul | probably there will be more in the future | [01:53] |
fabricius | you should add yourself to the GLUG | [01:53] |
refizul | GLUG? | [01:53] |
fabricius | and stuff like this you could for example send to the german mailing list - not very active, but specifically for such stuff
German Language User Group | [01:54] |
refizul | stuff like tiki.org typos to GLUG?
ah - language L in LUG is always Linux for me ;-) | [01:54] |
fabricius | everybody from germanspeaking countries, minorities or people who like to keep their Germanahead
hehe | [01:55] |
refizul | I've never seen a WUG | [01:56] |
fabricius | tiki.org typos to the German Linux User Group .. yeah we are famous loool
hmm *thinking* what the f* is W? | [01:56] |
refizul | A sloppy product from a company in Redmond/USA. | [01:57] |
fabricius | ahahahhaaaaha | [01:57] |
refizul | I guess those users do not look for social contact. | [01:58] |
fabricius | I do not know ... maybe not in context to the big W | [01:59] |
refizul | Maybe they are afraid to confess the usage in public. | [02:00] |
fabricius | most of the Wusers I know, stay, because everybody has and just in case they need help,they know they could ask somebody
yes I guess that's it I did use it for long time and I know myself how hard it was for me to change I never have been afraid of confessing, but I wanted to change for long time anyway, I do not want to go backwards 3and if I can make it easier for people around myself, I am glad to help ... even most people are reluctant at least I need not waste hours and hours anymore to help 'em with the W, as everybody knows now T is on L and if I haveto help one, I annoy him/her all the time "with Linux this would not be a problem ... with Linux that would work easily ..." hehe | [02:00] |
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refizul | this alias stuff at tiki.org is a bit of confusing
itemXY is bugXY, isn't it? | [02:21] |
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refizul | is it possible to enlarge the wiki editor, customized to a user's needs?
Full Screen Edit - I can live with that | [02:25] |
fabricius | at the bottom right corner of the editor you can catch the editors window with the mouse and enlarge it to your needs | [02:31] |
refizul | ah - there. I searched below that, at the bottom right orange block's corner | [02:33] |
fabricius | yeah mini ... micro | [02:33] |
refizul | there is a little... bug? | [02:35] |
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fabricius | .ui-resizable-handle
bug? | [02:35] |
Tamler | hello | [02:35] |
fabricius | where again?
hi Tamler | [02:35] |
refizul | if I increase the height, use full screen, then back to normal, the height is the old one, mut the space is reserved and the little corner is where it should be. But the editor window doesn't fit exactly. | [02:36] |
Tamler | The story continues... Has anyone tried installing tiki with a non default port? | [02:37] |
refizul | s/mut/but/
of what? MySQL? | [02:37] |
Tamler | oops, yes. | [02:37] |
refizul | I guess, we have got a solution | [02:37] |
Tamler | Do tell. | [02:38] |
refizul | Section 5 - https://doc.tiki.org/Installation
is new not the section, but the additional info is new tell us, if this is a solution for your problem | [02:39] |
Tamler | ;port=
ok i'll test right now | [02:40] |
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fabricius | refizul: I think, once you saved itwill be all back in place
not sure if its a bug or simply not nice to an extent I do not see what you described refizul | [02:43] |
refizul | increase height and width of editor, press full screen button of editor, press again to return, the width keeps as changed previously, but height returns to original setting
this doen't happen at doc.t.o - but in the community section / UserPage | [02:51] |
fabricius | ah | [02:58] |
refizul | Tamler away - no feedback? | [02:59] |
fabricius | he did head off to test ... maybe needs some time | [03:00] |
refizul | well - if he doesn't come back, the new hint is correct :-) | [03:02] |
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Tamler | You guys are the love children of Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant. Panty dropping and hard rockin awesome. Thank you for your help with the MySQL port/ install issue.
long and short, it worked. | [03:09] |
refizul | cool
there are some internals with mysql one cannot circumvent by php.ini manipulation | [03:16] |
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refizul | but in the end, it was a syntax question only | [03:18] |
fabricius | woohoo | [03:20] |
refizul | time to party! | [03:25] |
Tamler | Hah, now i am getting elbow deep in the configuration of the site. | [03:28] |
refizul | there are a lot of options to play with | [03:30] |
Tamler | um, that could be a big understatement... | [03:31] |
refizul | at least you get something for all the money... ;-)
btw, money: has anyone heard the openoffice for money story? | [03:32] |
Tamler | hah, too true.
no? | [03:32] |
refizul | some years ago someone sold openoffice.org downloads at ebay
he claimed "only ten more available..." and stuff like that a friend of mine was at ooo at that time and we had a very big laughing about this idea IIRC this was not allowed by the ebay guidelines Does there exist something like a complete tiki manual? Maybe a local html tree or a PDF? | [03:33] |
Tamler | that would be nice. I am bouncing back and forth between the site and the online docs. | [03:40] |
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refizul | is it possible to center vertically?
e.g. a table with a one line cell next to a two lines cell, can I center the one line cell vertically? | [04:02] |
The German tiki page links to a non existing page https://tiki.org/TeamCommunity
German tiki page = de.tiki.org | [04:15] | |
luciash | polom
refizul: u can if you enclose the table in {DIV(class=foo)}...{DIV} and then put .foo td:first-child {vertical-align: middle !important} in your CSS | [04:26] |
refizul | ah - ok, thx luciash
a security issue: themes.t.o switches to http immediately after login | [04:31] |
luciash | privacy issue | [04:32] |
refizul | yes
profiles does this, too. maybe all of the sites? | [04:32] |
luciash | changed on themes. try again ? | [04:37] |
refizul | the themes site looks odd now - there is a huge login
it keeps the https setting, but it is unusable without login | [04:43] |
fabricius | refizul: the de.tiki.org link "Tiki Gemeinde" links to the community website now
haha that is the mobile perspective how that? <- themes.t.o luciash? whatzup? | [04:46] |
refizul | luciash changed the login behaviour | [04:47] |
fabricius | to mobile? | [04:47] |
refizul | to keep the https protocol
as a side effect this happened fabricius: is the de.t.o not connected to the users database? | [04:47] |
fabricius | refizul: no it is not ... a historical thing, an issue we have to sort longterm
how to merge the user databases? how to merge the content? first we have to revamp the connected websites but a lot of work anyway both things | [04:49] |
refizul | now theses is fine (layout and https keeping)
now themes is fine (layout and https keeping) | [04:52] |
fabricius | cool
fabricius making some pasta | [04:53] |
refizul | de.t.o has got a 5 letters minimum username? | [04:54] |
luciash | all i did was just feature_show_stay_in_ssl_mode : enabled
pasta in 4:54am ? :-D | [04:54] |
refizul | luciash: yes, then a user can click this, that's good
luciash: maybe he's from Austria? *g* | [04:55] |
luciash | afaik he is not :)
de.t.o is local community site no intertiki there | [04:56] |
refizul | okay, I'll see about this another time
dawn is coming up, time to go into my coffin | [04:58] |
luciash | :)
cu | [05:00] |
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fabricius | hehe
nope I am not from Austria hence I know some Austrians ... btw: not from Australia aswell *g* | [05:25] |
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luciash | :) | [05:43] |
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fabricius | still awaik luciash?
no sleep (aswell)? | [06:11] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: jyhem committed r43272 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43272 | [06:25] |
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luciash | fabricius: yup, working a bit longer | [06:40] |
Jyhem | hey, same here
but I finish now! promised trust me | [06:50] |
luciash | :)
i finish in 7 minutes also | [06:53] |
Jyhem | of course :) | [06:56] |
luciash | byebye :) | [07:03] |
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New Commit: amette committed r43273 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43273 Info: A Decade of Tiki! - http://info.tiki.org/article201-A-Decade-of-Tiki | [16:10] |
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New Commit: ricks99 created the A Decade of Tiki! news entry - http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=64258 | [16:26] | |
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refizul | Hello. There is a orange box on http://tiki.org/tiki-newsletters.php which starts with the text "Tiki News Releases", and there are two URLs at the end. But it is not possible to click them directly. | [16:53] |
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refizul | at suite.t.o the "Newest Blog Posts" (right side column) are dead links
The messages there are either "You are not logged in. Go to Log in Page" or "Blog not found". I guess it is not intended to log in just for reading the blog, is it? | [17:34] |
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Jyhem | polom
ping changi | [17:59] |
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Tiki|bot | New Commit: arildb committed r43274 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43274 | [19:06] |
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marclaporte | polom
Hey everyone: Tiki 9.x is awesome!! | [19:14] |
lphuberdeau | good thing you realize that as the 10.x cycle is about to begin ;) | [19:16] |
marclaporte | refizul: I fixed the link to https://tiki.org/TeamCommunity Tks | [19:17] |
refizul | marclaporte: so fabricius can restore the old one on de.tiki.org | [19:20] |
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marclaporte | it's a page alias so both will work
marclaporte loves page aliases | [19:37] |
refizul | marclaporte: fabricius switched it to tiki.org main page - this is another page (alias Home) | [19:42] |
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Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4303 - - First form field on pages does not have focus - http://dev.tiki.org/item4303 | [20:26] |
kstingel | when using versioning, is there a way to have the same text for all versions, and update images only?
... without having multiple version selector sets show up on the page? for example, if I have an ordered list with 7 items, 5 of which have reference images ... I have one set of version select links at the beginning of the list, then depending on the sected version, only the images shown would differ | [20:31] |
jonnyb | hi kstingel, can't see how - the version plugin (i guess you're talking about) doesn't know the difference - it just switches chunks of wiki markup about | [20:41] |
kstingel | could using {version(default)}ol items ... {if(sel4}{img src="v4"}{elseif(sel5)}{img src=v5}{/if}{version} possibly work?
pseudo example is somewhat truncated, but you get the gist | [20:45] |
jonnyb | there isn't really an {if} statement in wiki markup | [20:48] |
kstingel | aww ... why not? | [20:48] |
jonnyb | you might be able to do something like it in javascript (but i don't really understand what you're tying to achieve - just saving a bit of duplication?) | [20:49] |
kstingel | basically yes ... I can't see the point in having umpteen copies of the same data if the only difference is the images referenced in said data block | [20:50] |
jonnyb | you could write a custom smarty template - smarty has {if} :) | [20:51] |
kstingel | what should I name it? ... "smartyplugin_versions.tpl"?
or "smarty_wikiplugin_versions.tpl"? | [20:52] |
jonnyb | sorry, i really don't follow - you can call custom tpls what you want and maybe tie it into the page using the tracklist plugin but i haven't really thought it through... | [20:56] |
kstingel | just thinking that if I create a template to extend the version plugin, it makes sense to name the new template similarly to the plugin being extended
that way, other coders should know what it is for fairly easily, and could "tweak" it if bugs occur in later tiki versions :) | [20:57] |
jonnyb | oh right, you mean adding a new parameter to wikiplugin_version? i thought you were talking about patching your own tiki | [21:01] |
kstingel | I am, but ... if I patch it and it works, I share so others can benefit :)
I figure, if I find a "gap" that needs patching, someone else will have found the same gap ... they may have a better solution than the one I came up with | [21:02] |
refizul | database trouble at tiki.org? | [21:04] |
kstingel | my motives are purely selfish ... if someone has a better fix than mine, I can learn by replacing my fix with theirs :D | [21:05] |
refizul | Undefined index: smarty_security -- http://info.tiki.org/tiki-index.php | [21:05] |
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refizul | Tiki is unable to connect to the database | [21:05] |
kstingel | hi marc | [21:06] |
refizul | *.t.o seems to have severe problems | [21:06] |
kstingel | could they be related to the version of Tiki that is running? | [21:07] |
jonnyb | refizul: agreed - changi, you about? :) | [21:07] |
kstingel | jonnyb: thanks for your assistance ... I'm off to retrain Smarty and Tiki to play nice with versions :) | [21:08] |
jonnyb | have fun! :)
tiki.org seems ok | [21:08] |
refizul | fake ticker: the tiki code quality management team reduced bug reports by a rate of 100% in October 2012 | [21:09] |
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marclaporte | refizul: good mail to tiki dev list. Let's address one by one :-) | [21:10] |
refizul | jonnyb: no, tiki.org shows a bunch of error tables | [21:10] |
marclaporte | Community server seems overloaded. changi: help! :-) | [21:11] |
refizul | jonnyb: ah - this one without redirect still works: http://tiki.org/tiki-index.php
and this one is running, too: http://suite.tiki.org/tiki-index.php | [21:12] |
jonnyb | info.t.o seems to have it's error reporting up too high | [21:13] |
refizul | jonnyb: ack - it is not the best way to tell the bad guys what to do next | [21:14] |
jonnyb | refizul: there's nothing particularly sensitive in there, just looks messy | [21:16] |
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changi | marclaporte: tiki_stats table is the problem | [21:36] |
marclaporte | crashed? | [21:37] |
changi | marclaporte: yep | [21:38] |
marclaporte | 1st time?
which domain? | [21:38] |
changi | doc.tiki.org
marclaporte: yes 1st time marclaporte: 241 Mo table | [21:39] |
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jonnyb | mmm - that's quite big! | [21:40] |
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jonnyb | (and i was going to suggest we log more stuff there!) | [21:40] |
changi | jonnyb: lol | [21:41] |
jonnyb | i guess we need a "delete stats after x days" option | [21:41] |
changi | for the record, i'm late because someone try to break in my appartement | [21:41] |
jonnyb | nasty | [21:42] |
marclaporte | and they failed? (I hope)
jonnyb: 240 megs shouldn't crash MySQL :-) | [21:42] |
changi | marclaporte: yes they failed, my firewall(door) is a big one | [21:42] |
marclaporte | hehe | [21:42] |
changi | release 9.2 ? | [21:42] |
jonnyb | i have one more little fix to add (just bounced back) | [21:43] |
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marclaporte | When site closed, site overloaded, site being upgraded via TRIM, "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" and similar should give error with HTTP 503 instead of HTTP 200 like now | [21:44] |
changi | marclaporte: it can be a problem if the hoster catch 503 errors | [21:45] |
jonnyb | committed ok, just running a merge to trunk... | [21:45] |
Caarrie|away | changi: you want to re-enable Tiki-KGB and i will kill the rss on Tiki|bot? | [21:48] |
changi | Caarrie|away: i will do that this WE, so for now you can let Tiki|bot speak : | [21:49] |
Caarrie|away | you can enable when you get a chance and when i catch it i will stop Tiki|bot | [21:49] |
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changi | Caarrie|away: oki
anything left for 9.2 ? can i start ? | [21:50] |
jonnyb | sorry, 1 mo tiny thing | [21:51] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43276 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43276 | [21:52] |
jonnyb | actually it need more thought, so go for it | [21:52] |
changi | jonnyb: i can postpone it to tomorrow
no rush | [21:52] |
jonnyb | ok, just need to think about it a little bit (and test :) )
actually i can commit after, it's only a beta today right? | [21:53] |
changi | jonnyb: yes | [21:55] |
jonnyb | this is a minor formatting thing, can go in after
sounds like you've probably had enough of today too, so don't want to prolong it for you :) | [21:55] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43277 to the Tiki SVN, changing 5 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43277 | [21:57] |
marclaporte | tomorrow is good for me too | [21:57] |
changi | as it's for a beta, i will do it know
s/know/now marclaporte: with your permission master :) | [21:57] |
jonnyb | just did that one little commit - hope it doesn't mess anything up for you changi
(i'd tested it and hadn't seen any signs of release starting) | [22:04] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43278 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43278 | [22:07] |
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refizul | I'm a bit confused again, this time about themes. doc.t.o tells about themes that themes.t.o is "for Tiki versions prior to 2.0" | [22:10] |
jonnyb | refizul: fairly certain it's more up to date than that!
please update the doc page it (if you find out it is) | [22:11] |
refizul | it tells then: mods.tw.o "for Tiki 2.0 and newer" | [22:12] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: changi67 committed r43280 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43280
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refizul | I'll do that when I understand what's going on. Right now I'm lost in a jungle. | [22:13] |
changi | ricks: 106 new commits
ricks: Copyrights updated: +1 contributor(s), +511 commit(s) | [22:14] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: changi67 committed r43283 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43283
New Commit: changi67 committed r43282 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43282 New Commit: changi67 committed r43281 to the Tiki SVN, changing 49 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43281 | [22:18] |
jonnyb | changi: i'll do an announcement mail to the dev list (including these stats for ricks99) | [22:19] |
refizul | Somewhere in Tiki there is a "Profile repository". Is there something similar for themes? A "Themes repository" with an import function? | [22:19] |
changi | jonnyb: ok | [22:19] |
jonnyb | refizul: sadly not, we could do with something like that | [22:20] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: changi67 committed r43284 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43284 | [22:23] |
New Commit: changi67 committed r43285 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43285 | [22:28] | |
refizul | There is another thing about customized themes (and other customized stuff): is is possible to deploy external themes somewhere else in the file system subtree? Maybe in a new subfolder "customized/" or "local/"? | [22:30] |
sandroandrade | joined #tikiwiki | [22:37] |
changi | jonnyb: upload on sf in progress | [22:40] |
jonnyb | w00t! | [22:40] |
changi | jonnyb: done | [22:43] |
jonnyb | super, i'll go grab one - gzip for me! | [22:44] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: changi67 made 1 file-release changes - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki
New Commit: changi67 made 2 file-release changes - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki New Commit: changi67 made 1 file-release changes - http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki | [22:44] |
changi | jonnyb: can you do the merge ? | [22:45] |
jonnyb | will do - thanks! :) | [22:45] |
changi | need to sleedp
see ya | [22:46] |
jonnyb | nn | [22:46] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: changi67 committed r43286 to the Tiki SVN, changing 2 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43286 | [22:49] |
refizul | A question about uploading files: where are they stored? In the database? | [22:51] |
jonnyb | in the database unless you set it to use the filesystem | [22:52] |
refizul | oh - this is optional. This is cute. And I can choose the folder. | [22:55] |
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marclaporte | :-) | [23:12] |
refizul | Assuming an Tiki instance with several thousand uploaded files, which one would be more performant? Database or filesystem? I think dropping them all into one folder will decrease reading performance, won't it? | [23:13] |
lphuberdeau | filesystem ususally is a better choice | [23:14] |
refizul | filesystem makes backup strategies easier, too | [23:15] |
lphuberdeau | depends on how you see it | [23:16] |
refizul | I do not want several pieces of a database dump and I do not want one big file. Seperation of user uploads from the database is a good choice from that point of view. But I've got no idea about performance issues. | [23:18] |
lphuberdeau | in my experience, guessing about performance issues never works | [23:19] |
refizul | Maybe a binary tree below the chosen folder would be an idea for Tiki internal upload handling. | [23:19] |
lphuberdeau | I just like letting the filesystem deal with it until I have an indication it is an issue
btrees are fancy structures to maintain | [23:20] |
refizul | I've seen Mediawiki uploads with a few thousand files in one folder, and there it is a performance problem for sure. | [23:21] |
lphuberdeau | ah, I've seen tiki installs with truly massive amounts of files, and it wasn't
lots of bottlenecks were hit before filesystem was one | [23:22] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: jonnybradley committed r43287 to the Tiki SVN, changing 55 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43287 | [23:25] |
refizul | okay, let's keep that as low level priority feature request in mind
probably SSD prices fall faster than the problem becomes larger | [23:25] |
lphuberdeau | I don't think I ever got to low priority feature requests | [23:26] |
refizul | let me add ";-)" to my suggestion | [23:28] |
Tiki|bot | New Commit: marclaporte committed r43288 to the Tiki SVN, changing 1 files - http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=43288 | [23:30] |
marclaporte | changi: I get a blank page when searching for some terms. http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log_search/tikiwiki?search=mysql&action=search&error=0
we have latest version? http://colas.nahaboo.net/Software/IrcLogger | [23:30] |
jonnyb | nn all | [23:41] |
Tiki|bot | Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4304 - - Webmail enhancements - http://dev.tiki.org/item4304 | [23:43] |
marclaporte | refizul: do you agree with http://dev.tiki.org/item4304 ? | [23:49] |
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